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I know I'm not gong to get much sympathy from some on here, but after a 7 month suspension for not doing the paperwork correctly, and a disciplinary hearing last Wednesday, I got the letter I was dreading today.

I've been sacked.

Unison have told me to appeal, and a local solicitor has advised me prior, that if the worst case scenario happens, we could sue for wrongful dismissal.

There was a Greivance in before I was suspended.

Very soon I will/may have to cut off my Bband, so you may soon see the last of me.

I have enjoyed the banter, but not the out & out hatred I have encountered, although this is in its minority.

I thank those who have supported me in the past all the best, and those who haven't, I still love you for supporting Rugby LEAGUE

GOD bless, THINK!

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I know I'm not gong to get much sympathy from some on here, but after a 7 month suspension for not doing the paperwork correctly, and a disciplinary hearing last Wednesday, I got the letter I was dreading today.

I've been sacked.

Unison have told me to appeal, and a local solicitor has advised me prior, that if the worst case scenario happens, we could sue for wrongful dismissal.

There was a Greivance in before I was suspended.

Very soon I will/may have to cut off my Bband, so you may soon see the last of me.

I have enjoyed the banter, but not the out & out hatred I have encountered, although this is in its minority.

I thank those who have supported me in the past all the best, and those who haven't, I still love you for supporting Rugby LEAGUE

GOD bless, THINK!

sacked from what job? tomorrows another day fkcu em

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You're not appealing.

It's been somewhat frustrating to read a regular feed of your gradual self destruction. I hope you get it together, but I think you'd be better served getting it together rather than wasting your time on here when you've got more important things to deal with.

If you've done nothing wrong, and your union supports you then there's usually only one result.

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I know I'm not gong to get much sympathy from some on here, but after a 7 month suspension for not doing the paperwork correctly, and a disciplinary hearing last Wednesday, I got the letter I was dreading today.

I've been sacked.

Unison have told me to appeal, and a local solicitor has advised me prior, that if the worst case scenario happens, we could sue for wrongful dismissal.

There was a Greivance in before I was suspended.

Very soon I will/may have to cut off my Bband, so you may soon see the last of me.

I have enjoyed the banter, but not the out & out hatred I have encountered, although this is in its minority.

I thank those who have supported me in the past all the best, and those who haven't, I still love you for supporting Rugby LEAGUE

GOD bless, THINK!

Whooooooaaaa there fella

You've got your appeal yet

That should take a while

Whilst that's going on and should take a while look out for another gig owt that keeps the wheels turning

And see what happens from there

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Everyone gets sacked sooner or later. 

 

Whatever you have done,though,  you still have rights. Take your union's advice, too  (and of course, responsibilities, though some of what you've admitted to on here is pretty bad) 

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Everyone gets sacked sooner or later.

Nice, but it's a job I've done for 27 years & I'm NW 51, in Hastings, with a low job/applicant ratio

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Nice, but it's a job I've done for 27 years & I'm NW 51, in Hastings, with a low job/applicant ratio

could be a blessing in disguise-I been self employed for almost all my life (and could prob now not accept having a boss)- theres a big world out there, don't be scared its just a transission period

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Nice, but it's a job I've done for 27 years & I'm NW 51, in Hastings, with a low job/applicant ratio

so you're 51 you've got the sack, who's fault is that?

people are being supportive of you on here: but for all anybody knows it might be your own incompetence or misconduct that's led to your getting the sack...but nevertheless people inclkuding me have been supportive of you.

 

what do you want people to do feel sorry for you and rub your belly? 

 

I don't agree with John. I've never been sacked from a job so I don't know what its like, but bloody hell my instinct for survival would make me take stock and figure something out: anything. Wont you be entitled to benefits?

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could be a blessing in disguise-I been self employed for almost all my life (and could prob now not accept having a boss)- theres a big world out there, don't be scared its just a transission period

He's right. You now have all day to make a bit of money.

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Bleep

 

Think of your family; they need you to hang on to your job.

 

Think of your employers; they are fed up of you.

 

Put in an appeal and tell them you are aware of both facts and will change.

 

Hopefully, the bosses will cut you some slack and give you another chance.

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so you're 51 you've got the sack, who's fault is that?

people are being supportive of you on here: but for all anybody knows it might be your own incompetence or misconduct that's led to your getting the sack...but nevertheless people inclkuding me have been supportive of you.

 

what do you want people to do feel sorry for you and rub your belly? 

 

I don't agree with John. I've never been sacked from a job so I don't know what its like, but bloody hell my instinct for survival would make me take stock and figure something out: anything. Wont you be entitled to benefits?

 

I don't agree with John.

 

On average, you and I have both been fired once.   :happy:

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I don't agree with John.

 

On average, you and I have both been fired once.   :happy:

 

 

I don't agree with John.

 

On average, you and I have both been fired once.   :happy:

I see

are they both interesting stories?

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No.  I was in a high pressure, high target  success-oriented hire and fire occupation and on both occasions my boss didn't think I had the skills to carry the job forward ( well, one thought I was after his job and the other was a so I was better off out.)   Second time I was invited to the boardroom, terminated and was off the premises within 2 hours.

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No.  I was in a high pressure, high target  success-oriented hire and fire occupation and on both occasions my boss didn't think I had the skills to carry the job forward ( well, one thought I was after his job and the other was a ###### so I was better off out.)   Second time I was invited to the boardroom, terminated and was off the premises within 2 hours.

 

 

No.  I was in a high pressure, high target  success-oriented hire and fire occupation and on both occasions my boss didn't think I had the skills to carry the job forward ( well, one thought I was after his job and the other was a ###### so I was better off out.)   Second time I was invited to the boardroom, terminated and was off the premises within 2 hours.

ah

as long as it all turned out right in the end

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You'll need broadband to apply for jobs, trust me without it you will struggle to get back into work. The Job Centre is complete waste of time and the staff are in the main condescending, with the odd exception and they have no interest in helping you.

 

KEEP YOUR BROADBAND and visit sites like jobsite, totaljobs etc. Use Linkedin to search for jobs in your industry.

 

I was in your position last December lost my job after 27 years at age 50. It took me 4 months to get fixed up, but I got there in the end. The most important thing is to believe in yourself and don't take any notice of "you are past after 50 and will never get a job again" brigade. You will have a lot of transferable skills that employers are looking for.

 

I wouldn’t claim to be an expert in finding a job after 50 mate, but I’ve been there recently and if you need any advice drop me a PM.

 

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yup. last one happened 14 years ago when I was 53.  Been self-employed ever since, running a small partnership.  Not always been easy but its the best thing evah!   This is what we do: we made this, just a few weeks ago: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aik9oNbDxEs

 

The point is that there is always a way forward and sometimes it takes an extreme shock to trigger you to better things.

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I have never been in the situation but I know a couple of people who's boss have been more concerned about losing their jobs to a young upstart that they have held them back and in turn made them look rubbish at their job.

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yup. last one happened 14 years ago when I was 53. Been self-employed ever since, running a small partnership. Not always been easy but its the best thing evah! This is what we do: we made this, just a few weeks ago: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aik9oNbDxEs

The point is that there is always a way forward and sometimes it takes an extreme shock to trigger you to better things.

Wow

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I know I'm not gong to get much sympathy from some on here, but after a 7 month suspension for not doing the paperwork correctly, and a disciplinary hearing last Wednesday, I got the letter I was dreading today.

I've been sacked.

Unison have told me to appeal, and a local solicitor has advised me prior, that if the worst case scenario happens, we could sue for wrongful dismissal.

There was a Greivance in before I was suspended.

Very soon I will/may have to cut off my Bband, so you may soon see the last of me.

I have enjoyed the banter, but not the out & out hatred I have encountered, although this is in its minority.

I thank those who have supported me in the past all the best, and those who haven't, I still love you for supporting Rugby LEAGUE

GOD bless, THINK!

 

Not that this may help much but as other have said about Broadband, when your unemployed you arguably need it more than ever. 

 

If you have to cut your BB off i have a suggestion for an emergency stopgap. (before anyone says it, no i am not connected to them and i am not spamming)

Ovivo have a free phone plan that includes a monthly 500MB internet. 

Pay £15 for a sim and put it in a cheap smartphone and use it for emergency internet use. Got my Dad on it, not for the internet which he never uses anyway more for the free monthly 150mins and 250 free txts. All for the initial £15 cost for the sim which piggybacks on Vodafone. http://ovivomobile.com/

Not much help but just an idea on how you can keep some form of internet access while times are tight. 

 

Edit: Just noticed they have free data only plan for dongle or tablet of 750 MB P/M free (make sure you don't go over this)

Not use their data plan so no idea how good but its 750 MB for free so rather than have no BB http://ovivomobile.com/offer/ovivo-for-data/

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I've been made redundant twice, both when my departments were closed leaving me with no job.  First time was from a job I hated so wasn't unhappy to leave, second time was a job I really did like so it was a harder hit.  Both times I immediately treated the job as old news and got on with my life, both times led me into far more interesting career options so they were actually external prods to go do something better.

 

As I see it, you have two options:

 

1.  Make yourself bitter and nearly unemployable by spending your time appealing then suing for a job you're not going to get back.  Even if you win, you'll get a small payout of a few thousand pounds but you'll have a public record of suing and if you're in a small industry then you're essentially going to self-blacklist.  It's a nasty old world out there in employment and it's nowhere near as black/white as the unions would like you to think; even if you win, you're not getting your job back and could seriously hurt yourself in the long term.

 

OR

 

2.  Treat it as a kick up the bum to go do something else.  Treat job hunting as a full-time job.  If you're doing less than 6-7 hours a day job hunting then you're slacking and need to kick yourself.  If you can't find job hunting tasks to occupy 6-7 hours a day then you don't know how to effectively job hunt and need help, speak to your union or one of the freebie job advisory services.  Get yourself on a CV rewrite course somewhere, the JobCentre should be able to help with this.

On option 1, it's a particularly stupid public authority these days that sacks someone without building a bulletproof dossier and having legal opinion.  When I sacked someone last year in my former role as Chairman of my local council's HR Committee, we had pages of legal opinion and validation of our approach at every warning stage up to final dismissal leaving absolutely no avenue for credible appeal or law suit.  You also need to remember the role of a solicitor, their paid day-job is to sue, there's no money in it for them to say "Sorry Mr Bleep, you've no case and I can't help you", if they win they get paid, if they lose they get paid.  If you really must sue then ask your union to pay the legal fees, if they won't do this then you have to ask yourself why not.

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CKN is right, if the union will take your case then you probably will have a good chance of winning. Unions will not take a case on if there is any doubt, since they are reluctant to lose and possiblily set a precident that may affect future more roboust cases.

 

If the union are willing, then go for it, but ask the union upfront how much you will be looking at, since the flip side is you may be on an unoffical blacklist. However companies tend not to want to take unions on in cases where there is doubt so it may be settled out of court, even if there is blame on both sides.

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after a 7 month suspension for not doing the paperwork correctly,

 

Seven months after you told them to stick their job, eh?

 

Like the others have said, the one thing you can't afford to do if you're job hunting is lose your internet not least because most employers will expect to be able to email you application packs and the like plus there's no advantage in waiting for a weekly Sits Vac in the local rag or a monthly professional journal.  All the jobs will be online.

 

And I'd fight for some form of compensation because you'll get it just from being awkward - although it costs £1,200 just to go to tribunal now I believe.

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Seven months after you told them to stick their job, eh?

 

Like the others have said, the one thing you can't afford to do if you're job hunting is lose your internet not least because most employers will expect to be able to email you application packs and the like plus there's no advantage in waiting for a weekly Sits Vac in the local rag or a monthly professional journal.  All the jobs will be online.

 

And I'd fight for some form of compensation because you'll get it just from being awkward - although it costs £1,200 just to go to tribunal now I believe.

Oh I didnt realise that this guy was a complete and utter idot, so you walked out of a disciplinary meeting used inappropriate behaviour/language been paid for 7 months to do SFA and now are worried about the future. During that 7 month suspension period did it not cross your mind maybe to eat humble pie and appologies, get your job back a work the next few years before retirement?

 

Lets face it when asked 'why did you leave your other job' what answer can you give since they will want some sort of work record from your previous employer especially since you've been there for 27 years.

 

What was the reason given for your dismissal?

If you do have a case and your behaviour can be explained because other things happing at the time then fine, take the tribunal on.

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I would like to thank you all for the ideas.

 

One of them is to start a Resuscitation Training Course, teaching basic life support to offices/factories/shops etc, and be self-employed, using the skills I have learned over the last 30-odd years of working in an Operating Theatre

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