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Just been trawling the internet looking at rugby stadiums in England both league and union and was pleasantly surprised to find that at the top end of the game League has the better stadiums,

 

St Helens,Wigan,Salford,Widnes,Warrington,Hull and Huddersfield all play in modern stadia,

disappointing Leeds,Wakefield and Bradford though,

 

i know some share with football clubs but imo this is something that league should be proud off.

 

anyone else have the same thought,

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The thing is that they may play there but they often don't own the stadium outright or are mere tennants.

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Leeds is a classic stadium. One end needs having a roof, but we shouldn't junk everything, just because it is old.

 

How come Cas don't get a mention? Their dump, is even worse than ours!

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Leeds is a classic stadium. One end needs having a roof, but we shouldn't junk everything, just because it is old.

 

That's what I say. It's a good stadium in parts.

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would rather go to a game at belle vue and have an earful for 80 mins any day than sit listening to echoes from plastic seats with no atmosphere in hudds.

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Nothing wrong with Headingley, Belle Vue is not without it's charms either.  Widnes and Warrington are OK, Huddersfield, awful

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Belle vue before it was pulled down was the best looking and when full was the most Atmospheric

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I agree with you fieldof. about belle vue .a glimpse of past glories in the film 'This SPORTING LIFE'

Leeds is a tired ground now to say  they have been a top team for years.

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How many stadiums are actually League only stadiums?

 

Not Just Superleague, but other divisions too.

 

No Speedway, athletics, Union or football shares, and that includes football reserves, or juniors.

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How many stadiums are actually League only stadiums?

Not Just Superleague, but other divisions too.

No Speedway, athletics, Union or football shares, and that includes football reserves, or juniors.

In the Championship, only Mount Pleasant, Tetley's Stadium, Craven Park and Post Office Road are owned by the clubs themselves. In terms of grounds where only RL is played, its probably a very similar list.

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How many stadiums are actually League only stadiums?

 

Not Just Superleague, but other divisions too.

 

No Speedway, athletics, Union or football shares, and that includes football reserves, or juniors.

Not true, quite a few big name RU sides ground share, London Irish and Saracens do for starters.

 

Hudds Town share with Hudds Giants. Wigan Athletic share with Wigan Warriors. Hull City with Hull FC. IIRC Everton reserves play in Widnes.

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Headingley is The Fenway Park of Rugby League

 

Having been to both I concur with that comment.

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Not true, quite a few big name RU sides ground share, London Irish and Saracens do for starters.

 

Hudds Town share with Hudds Giants. Wigan Athletic share with Wigan Warriors. Hull City with Hull FC. IIRC Everton reserves play in Widnes.

Who do Saracens share with now? I thought they had that new stadium to themselves during the season?

Agree with comments above about Headingley. Went there for the first time recently when they played Wakey and thought it was cracking. In my view a great stadium isn't necessarily one that's bang up to date and/or an all-seater.

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Liverpool reserves play at Langtree Park but the stadium is owned outright by Saints (not even partly owned by the banks), with the football team just paying tennants on a year by year rolling contract.

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In the Championship, only Mount Pleasant, Tetley's Stadium, Craven Park and Post Office Road are owned by the clubs themselves. In terms of grounds where only RL is played, its probably a very similar list.

Workington own Derwent Park stadium, but lease the land it stands on. The stadium itself is completely owned by Town and they rent it out on Saturdays to Workington Comets speedway.

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Workington own Derwent Park stadium, but lease the land it stands on. The stadium itself is completely owned by Town and they rent it out on Saturdays to Workington Comets speedway.

 I always thought Town owned the land as well or did they own only the training ground? Thought it was the club that sold part of the land to Tesco.

Whilst not owning the ground, Whitehaven are the only team playing on the Recreation Ground

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 I always thought Town owned the land as well or did they own only the training ground? Thought it was the club that sold part of the land to Tesco.

Whilst not owning the ground, Whitehaven are the only team playing on the Recreation Ground

 

 

The council own the land but Town have a very long (100+ years) lease on it at a peppercorn rent. When the old training field was sold to William Low the money for the sale actually went to the council, who then compensated Town for the surrender of the lease on that portion of land (i.e. the council had to buy the lease back from Town so they could sell the land to the supermarket chain).

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Just been trawling the internet looking at rugby stadiums in England both league and union and was pleasantly surprised to find that at the top end of the game League has the better stadiums,

 

St Helens,Wigan,Salford,Widnes,Warrington,Hull and Huddersfield all play in modern stadia,

disappointing Leeds,Wakefield and Bradford though,

 

i know some share with football clubs but imo this is something that league should be proud off.

 

anyone else have the same thought,

 

 this is something that league should be proud off.

 

Spot on.

 

Old stadiums tend to have higher running costs, poorer facilities, worse parking, worse weather protection. May not apply to ALL old stadiums but generally, it's true.

 

If we are trying to attract new and returning fans to the game, then having decent modern stadiums would surely be a plus. Old stagers might like wooden stands,  outside toilets, cinder terraces, no cover and parking in the street outside someone's house but I'm convinced that is not the best way.

 

As for owning  v renting, why ii owning better than renting? Having all the clubs money tied up in owing a stadium ( unless its the Directors stadium and they might want to sell it for houses later) when that money might be better used in developing the club. Own a stadium and you need to pay to maintain and improve it, too.

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Liverpool reserves play at Langtree Park but the stadium is owned outright by Saints (not even partly owned by the banks), with the football team just paying tennants on a year by year rolling contract.

 

Liverpool reserves play all over the place. They'll play maybe two games at Langtree this season. Considering they could host the matches themselves at Anfield or their academy ground, I doubt that contract is worth much, if anything to St Helens. 

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Not true, quite a few big name RU sides ground share, London Irish and Saracens do for starters.

 

Hudds Town share with Hudds Giants. Wigan Athletic share with Wigan Warriors. Hull City with Hull FC. IIRC Everton reserves play in Widnes.

There's now also Widnes Vikings FC, played there first North West Counties Division 1 game on Saturday, which is the very bottom of the non-league pryamid, not sure what the long term plans are or how closely the clubs are linked.

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The council own the land but Town have a very long (100+ years) lease on it at a peppercorn rent. When the old training field was sold to William Low the money for the sale actually went to the council, who then compensated Town for the surrender of the lease on that portion of land (i.e. the council had to buy the lease back from Town so they could sell the land to the supermarket chain).

 Thanks for that, fills in a little bit of local knowledge I was missing

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There's now also Widnes Vikings FC, played there first North West Counties Division 1 game on Saturday, which is the very bottom of the non-league pryamid, not sure what the long term plans are or how closely the clubs are linked.

 

Did Widnes start up a football club? Same name and logo. They'd have to have some say in all this I would think. 

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I love Headingley, I just think it oozes history an atmosphere.

Also referring to Dewsbury's ground. As part of a longer term project I think the plan was to get Ossett Town football club to move in with them. Not happened yet though. I wouldn't be surprised if memories of what happened to Emley still linger.

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Did Widnes start up a football club? Same name and logo. They'd have to have some say in all this I would think. 

Looks like it, don't know anything about them other than they played there first competitive game last Saturday, bet 127 rattling around in the Stobart is a surreal experience for fans and players alike!

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