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Ukip's Godfrey Bloom defends 'bongo bongo land' comments

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He also claims that the furore over his comments would probably double his vote in the North of England. Discuss...

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He also claims that the furore over his comments would probably double his vote in the North of England. Discuss...

 

It's the oldest trick in the grubby politicians' handbook. If you have no genuine solutions to anything yourself, just blame furriners for everything and hope there will be enough dunderheads out there who are dumb enough to vote for you.

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The truth is, we don't know what happens to money given to many third world countries. If we do give aid, it should be in the form of medicines, British-made goods and projects overseen by British companies.

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He's not wrong to be suspicious of some 'aid' though.

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He's not wrong to be suspicious of some 'aid' though.

 

Perhaps, but he hasn't used terminology like 'bongo bongo land' to spark a serious debate about that now, has he.

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He's not wrong to be suspicious of some 'aid' though.

Absolutely. It's his choice of words that is being criticised, and the way he's implying that this is what happens to all foreign aid.

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Perhaps, but he hasn't used terminology like 'bongo bongo land' to spark a serious debate about that now, has he.

I'm taking it as read that he's a bigoted tosspot.

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The truth is, we don't know what happens to money given to many third world countries. If we do give aid, it should be in the form of medicines, British-made goods and projects overseen by British companies.

My best mate works for the UN, he's been to these places DR Congo, Haiti, East Timor and is currently in South Sudan. In East Timor, according to him, if the the price of rice goes even a tiny amount up there's mass rioting. However, for a country so poor it's amazing how they manage to afford fleets of shiny new cars for whoever is in charge.

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He's not wrong to be suspicious of some 'aid' though.

I think its time time to cut all overseas aid. Charity begins at home. The £11 billion overseas aid we currently give out could be better spent here.

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I think its time time to cut all overseas aid. Charity begins at home. The £11 billion overseas aid we currently give out could be better spent here.

 

The money we send overseas as aid has nothing to do with charity; it has everything to do with buying influence and getting foreign countries to buy UK goods.

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I think its time time to cut all overseas aid. Charity begins at home. The £11 billion overseas aid we currently give out could be better spent here.

You assume that it has no pay back. Are there any calculations for what the UK exchequer gets back in return?

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It's the oldest trick in the grubby politicians' handbook. If you have no genuine solutions to anything yourself, just blame furriners for everything and hope there will be enough dunderheads out there who are dumb enough to vote for you.

They bought porn films on our expense and had moats cleaned and 24m people still voted for them.

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The truth is, we don't know what happens to money given to many third world countries. If we do give aid, it should be in the form of medicines, British-made goods and projects overseen by British companies.

it already is

although obviously a lot of aid takes the form of cash

 

there is a lot of corruption involved in the dealings between first and third world countries. It works both ways. It isn't just aid, but the awarding of contracts that the aid pays for.

 

We have a right wing government running the country that at home is punishing the poor for its own failings, and the failings of its friends. You would think they would be the first to sdlash the aid budget but they don't. Why do you think that is?

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The money we send overseas as aid has nothing to do with charity; it has everything to do with buying influence and getting foreign countries to buy UK goods.

They want our goods anyway, especially the ones that stop the opposition dead in their tracks.

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They want our goods anyway, especially the ones that stop the opposition dead in their tracks.

 

Not quite true. Our kit is fairly expensive; they could buy cheaper kit from Russia and China, which would do the job just as easily as ours.

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bloom's comment isn't even original

 

Allan Clark coined the phrase years ago

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Not quite true. Our kit is fairly expensive; they could buy cheaper kit from Russia and China, which would do the job just as easily as ours.

Also, it's quite widely acknowledged that although the British military kit is superior to almost every every other country's kit, it falls apart quite quickly if not subject to the discipline and maintenance standards you get in first world armies.  If I were a tin-pot dictator then the last thing I'd want is British kit for my thugs-with-guns.

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I read an article about a decade ago that reviewed the famines in Africa from the 70s onwards and the impacts of first world aid on those countries.  It was quite a sobering read that without that aid many millions more would have died, most likely well into the 8 figures death count.  The aid received, even with corruption inevitably getting in the way, saved countless millions from starvation.  The problems with much of the aid from some countries is that it was provided in high yield seed grain or other seed foodstuffs, that doesn't sound so bad until you realise that it's the modified, treated stuff that doesn't reproduce, has to be bought again the next year and strips the land quite bare in order to get that high yield.  It always depresses me how many people and companies are willing to try to make a big profit from large scale human suffering.

 

One part of the article that really made me quite sad was that many senior politicians were privately saying to cut aid and let natural selection "right" the population size in those countries until they could learn to stop having so many children when there's no food.  It brought it through to me that there are some people out there who see that solving humanity's food problems is about as easy as culling deer on their estates.

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Strangely enough, today's Daily Mash article on it has a very valid point that the non-satirical media just like to ignore:
 

President Inkatwe added: “Our neighbours in Liberia receive some aid money and as far as I can tell most of it does actually get spent on making people’s lives  just a tiny bit better. Not as good as yours or Godfrey Bloom’s obviously, but just not horrible all the time.

 

“No doubt some of it gets siphoned off and spent on fancy sunglasses, but people are ####### wherever you go.

 

“Except Britain of course. Everyone in Britain is just ###### brilliant.”

 

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Ukip's Godfrey Bloom defends 'bongo bongo land' comments

Politician says he is just expressing views of 'ordinary people in rugby and cricket club'

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2013/aug/07/ukip-godfrey-bloom-bongo-bongo-land

 

What an offensive chump.

 

Some pottymouthed knuckledragger just sent me an expletive filled personal email in response to this.

 

I'd copy it here but the swear filter would just render it a string of ######'s

 

Hello curly@ausi.com, yes, I mean you!

 

What a sad case.

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Some pottymouthed knuckledragger just sent me an expletive filled personal email in response to this.

I'd copy it here but the swear filter would just render it a string of ######'s

Hello curly@ausi.com, yes, I mean you!

What a sad case.

For worse, try trolling the Daily Mail website with comments about UKIP being racist. :P

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Isn't BongoBongo land just the African version of Middleofffingnowhereistan

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For worse, try trolling the Daily Mail website with comments about UKIP being racist. :P

I'm not saying you would deserve what you got if you did that but you wouldn't really be helping yourself.

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I'm not saying you would deserve what you got if you did that but you wouldn't really be helping yourself.

I just enjoy reading the UKIP comments on there, even the most innocuous of negatives about UKIP gets the commenter heaps of abuse.

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