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I’ve only ever had whiskey twice in my life. The second time was a few weeks ago. I really enjoyed it and might have to give it another try

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.I'm working just off of junction 11, M74 on two new 10,000 m2 storage sheds at the moment for John Dewar & Sons. 

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Staying in a holiday cottage half a mile from Norfolk’s English Whisky distillery.

Sampled a bit of their Original, Smokey and Sherry cask range - all of them not bad at all.

Got a bottle of their Rum cask for scientific, ahem, sampling purposes at home.

 

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35 minutes ago, Gerrumonside ref said:

Staying in a holiday cottage half a mile from Norfolk’s English Whisky distillery.

Sampled a bit of their Original, Smokey and Sherry cask range - all of them not bad at all.

Got a bottle of their Rum cask for scientific, ahem, sampling purposes at home.

 

They screwed up very badly at first, they released whiskies just after they could legally call them "whisky" at the 3 year point.  It tasted like meths and smelled of sour grain.  That put off virtually every serious whisky drinker as it was just slightly above backyard whisky still quality.  I can understand why they did it, every year maturing is a year they make no money but it didn't half trash the brand.  Apparently, a few years later, it's getting better, some are onto second barrellings and starting to age nicely albeit still tasting young.

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I was given a bottle of Chivas Regal 18 by some nice Hong Kong people that I helped out in Paris a couple of years ago.

 

In a fit of charitable benevolence I donated it to the local SPA dogs home event near Carcassonne the other week.  They ran a no lose tombola and some bloke walked up, paid 2 euros for his ticket, and swiftly headed off with fifty odd quids of hooch.  

 

The Whisky Gods being as they are, my big brother appeared the following week with a bottle of Quarter Cask Laphroaig.  Sod the dogs, this is going tummywards.

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3 hours ago, ckn said:

They screwed up very badly at first, they released whiskies just after they could legally call them "whisky" at the 3 year point.  It tasted like meths and smelled of sour grain.  That put off virtually every serious whisky drinker as it was just slightly above backyard whisky still quality.  I can understand why they did it, every year maturing is a year they make no money but it didn't half trash the brand.  Apparently, a few years later, it's getting better, some are onto second barrellings and starting to age nicely albeit still tasting young.

Interesting, I’m on one of their tours in half an hour and have a few questions to ask.

Their tasting tours come in a few formats including a world whisky tour where they pit their finest against the best in the world.

It’s a nice little setup although I can only really compare it to a speyside distillery tour I’ve once been on where we sampled some Royal Lochnagar (formerly the favourite tipple of Victoria and Albert).

Maybe like English wine it is an area of expertise that English distilleries might get better at with time.  I think water quality may be an issue as ckn has mentioned in the past.

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6 minutes ago, Gerrumonside ref said:

Interesting, I’m on one of their tours in half an hour and have a few questions to ask.

Their tasting tours come in a few formats including a world whisky tour where they pit their finest against the best in the world.

It’s a nice little setup although I can only really compare it to a speyside distillery tour I’ve once been on where we sampled some Royal Lochnagar (formerly the favourite tipple of Victoria and Albert).

Maybe like English wine it is an area of expertise that English distilleries might get better at with time.  I think water quality may be an issue as ckn has mentioned in the past.

Do me a favour and ask how they cope with the really rubbish water in that area.  I live in Suffolk and the Norfolk/Suffolk water is abysmally heavy with lots of calcium sediment, I can't see how they can match the pure water of the Scottish highlands and islands with the chewy water in East Anglia.

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1 hour ago, ckn said:

Do me a favour and ask how they cope with the really rubbish water in that area.  I live in Suffolk and the Norfolk/Suffolk water is abysmally heavy with lots of calcium sediment, I can't see how they can match the pure water of the Scottish highlands and islands with the chewy water in East Anglia.

They did address that point and in their view the harder water just brought different flavours, that’s all, not a deal breaker the Scots would have you believe. 

They did mention two interesting things which is that the warm climate compared to Scotland meant that more was lost due to evaporation during to maturation process and also that the malted barley that is used by a lot of the Scottish distilleries comes directly from East Anglia.

To be honest I’m sold on what is a small family operation and wish them a lot of success in a non partisan type of a way.  It seems like they’re wary of the competition from Adnans in Southwold who have successfully made gin as well as beer which shows they have potential to make whisky too.

I think you’re right about your earlier point about reputational damage from early releases and they’re definitely rebranding and moving into a market whereby they’re selling based on easy recognition of taste by labelling products in a simple way.

Anyway I enjoyed the tour and tried a good range from their special whisky and rye release which is almost like a bourbon through to their peaty smoke laden efforts.

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1 minute ago, Gerrumonside ref said:

They did address that point and in their view the harder water just brought different flavours, that’s all, not a deal breaker the Scots would have you believe. 

They did mention two interesting things which is that the warm climate compared to Scotland meant that more was lost due to evaporation during to maturation process and also that the malted barley that is used by a lot of the Scottish distilleries comes directly from East Anglia.

To be honest I’m sold on what is a small family operation and wish them a lot of success in a non partisan type of a way.  It seems like they’re wary of the competition from Adnans in Southwold who have successfully made gin as well as beer which shows they have potential to make whisky too.

I think you’re right about your earlier point about reputational damage from early releases and they’re definitely rebranding and moving into a market whereby they’re selling based on easy recognition of taste by labelling products in a simple way.

Anyway I enjoyed the tour and tried a good range from their special whisky and rye release which is almost like a bourbon through to their peaty smoke laden efforts.

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1. I don't buy that for a second.  One thing you can notice in other whiskies throughout the world is the quality of water.  That's why the Japanese whiskies are so good, their water quality/content is very close to the islands of Scotland.  The water in this area is so hard that it killed a water softener we had fitted, it just smears everything and you can almost chew the hardness in the water.

2. The "angel's share" is always a problem, the Americans especially find it hard as the dry heat of many of their whiskEy making places are in dry, hot locations and they lose around twice that of the Scottish whisky places.

3. I agree, it's why I was so disappointed with the first tastes of it.  I like the differences in taste you get from different areas and was looking forward to it.  I do hope they can mature over the years and not fall into the unaged mass-market rubbish that has wrecked the reputations of previously good whiskies, such as Jura.

4. Their first branding was nationalism on a bottle essentially.  They should take lessons from the Welsh whisky lot who make Penderyn as that's very subtly done, picking up a bit of national pride in their Welsh origins but not ramming it down the throats of the buyers.

5. Book yourself a Feis Ile tour for one year around the Scottish whisky isles, you'll certainly test your liver's recovery rates!  It's their peaty one I'll try again if I can get one but it'll have to be good otherwise they'll subconsciously go into the "junk whiskies" pile like so many others these days.

Cheers for the feedback!

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46 minutes ago, ckn said:

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1. I don't buy that for a second.  One thing you can notice in other whiskies throughout the world is the quality of water.  That's why the Japanese whiskies are so good, their water quality/content is very close to the islands of Scotland.  The water in this area is so hard that it killed a water softener we had fitted, it just smears everything and you can almost chew the hardness in the water.

2. The "angel's share" is always a problem, the Americans especially find it hard as the dry heat of many of their whiskEy making places are in dry, hot locations and they lose around twice that of the Scottish whisky places.

3. I agree, it's why I was so disappointed with the first tastes of it.  I like the differences in taste you get from different areas and was looking forward to it.  I do hope they can mature over the years and not fall into the unaged mass-market rubbish that has wrecked the reputations of previously good whiskies, such as Jura.

4. Their first branding was nationalism on a bottle essentially.  They should take lessons from the Welsh whisky lot who make Penderyn as that's very subtly done, picking up a bit of national pride in their Welsh origins but not ramming it down the throats of the buyers.

5. Book yourself a Feis Ile tour for one year around the Scottish whisky isles, you'll certainly test your liver's recovery rates!  It's their peaty one I'll try again if I can get one but it'll have to be good otherwise they'll subconsciously go into the "junk whiskies" pile like so many others these days.

Cheers for the feedback!

They do a set of three miniatures including the smoky one, a sherry cask one and their ‘original’ for £14.99 if you fancy sampling without going all in.

Two of those have picked up awards apparently.

 

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On ‎7‎/‎5‎/‎2018 at 11:49 AM, timtum said:

I was given a bottle of Chivas Regal 18 by some nice Hong Kong people that I helped out in Paris a couple of years ago.

 

In a fit of charitable benevolence I donated it to the local SPA dogs home event near Carcassonne the other week.  They ran a no lose tombola and some bloke walked up, paid 2 euros for his ticket, and swiftly headed off with fifty odd quids of hooch.  

 

The Whisky Gods being as they are, my big brother appeared the following week with a bottle of Quarter Cask Laphroaig.  Sod the dogs, this is going tummywards.

I've also worked on building 12 new storage sheds for Chivas Regal at a little village called Beith just West of Glasgow in the last two years.

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Shared a half size bottle (only got two wee drams each out of it mind) of glenfiddich 15 .... Had forgotten how nice this stuff is....much better than the 12 and personally preferable to the 18...a nice, sweet fruity flavour to it....think my next purchase will have to be the full size bottle

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My birthday gifts so far today:

- 1 x Laphroaig 15yo
- 2 x Bunnahabhain 12yo
- 1 x Lagavulin 15yo
- 1 x Ardbeg 10yo

and 1 x Smirnoff black label vodka.  This stuff is fantastic for a vodka, very smooth and perfect for drinking neat when slightly chilled.

I think I've been pigeon-holed by my family and friends just that little bit...

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2 minutes ago, ckn said:

My birthday gifts so far today:

- 1 x Laphroaig 15yo
- 2 x Bunnahabhain 12yo
- 1 x Lagavulin 15yo
- 1 x Ardbeg 10yo

and 1 x Smirnoff black label vodka.  This stuff is fantastic for a vodka, very smooth and perfect for drinking neat when slightly chilled.

I think I've been pigeon-holed by my family and friends just that little bit...

You'll be needing a lot of ginger ale to mix with that lot

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Currently supping a bottle of Tirril from the Lakeland Brewery; a Cumbrian Single Malt. Quite like it...

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On 6/29/2018 at 5:31 PM, Copa said:

I’ve only ever had whiskey twice in my life. The second time was a few weeks ago. I really enjoyed it and might have to give it another try

I asked my friend about the whiskey he gave me that I enjoyed. He has a few and didn’t know which one I had.

So for Father’s Day last weekend I asked my partner for either a bottle of whiskey or a bottle of spiced rum..... she bought me a bottle of Spicebox spiced whiskey instead as she thought it’d cover both of my gift suggestions. 🙂  It’s nice for what it is but didn’t quite scratch my itch. To scratch that itch I bought some Bowmore small batch single malt whiskey. I have not tried it yet.

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Copa... I'm really not succeeding in avoiding being an ar se here..... drop the 'e' from the Scottish variety of whisky!! 😂😂

Ok... bog standard supermarket.... but out tesco local has Glenmorrangie on at £21!!!!!

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