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Interesting excerpt from the Pennine ARL minutes

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NEW CLUB APPLICATIONS

 

Halton Moor  (new Open Age team) & East Leeds accepted into league.

 

Dudley Hill rejected on the grounds they are not members of BARLA or Bradford ARL + outstanding fines owed to Bradford ARL.

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What a massive own goal for the Pennines League !!!!!!!!!!!

They should have put politics to one side and asked Dudley Hill to conform to the criteria and welcomed them back to the fold .

Dudley Hill were a front running club for the switch to summer a great opportunity missed , and again the people what matter the most the players are the ones who suffer .

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They should have snatched Dudley Hill's hand off, it would have been a real kick in Summer's nuts.  

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What a massive own goal for the Pennines League !!!!!!!!!!!

They should have put politics to one side and asked Dudley Hill to conform to the criteria and welcomed them back to the fold .

Dudley Hill were a front running club for the switch to summer a great opportunity missed , and again the people what matter the most the players are the ones who suffer .

Exactly. They could have offered a hand instead they've shown their true colours. What chance any other team that dared look elsewhere. A bad tactical decision and if the head of Pennine League/Barla is involved she needs to look in the mirror.

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They should have snatched Dudley Hill's hand off, it would have been a real kick in Summer's nuts.

Good to see you are all wanting the best for rugby league, with friends like this we don't need enemies.

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Good to see you are all wanting the best for rugby league, with friends like this we don't need enemies.

I do want want is best for RL Nec , but you have to admit playing the RFL at their own game this would have been a coup for the traditionalists instead now who wins certainly not the players at Dudley Hill .

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I wish they would let them in as its unfair at the moment with half the teams in bradford simply take Dudley hill players for half a season to boost there results. Bowling boosted there performance adding Nathan kitson , who btw had signed for birkenshaw for £150 a game!!!! Wibsey added simon Sewell , jamie brently and Neil wall to their side to help them out.

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Did Dudley Hill refuse to pay their debts to the Bradford ARL? Did they refuse to pay their BARLA fee's ?

 

I'd like to know both of these facts before I make judgement, If they did then I also think it's a bad move, but if they didn't and they refused well they didn't the Pennine committee didn't have much option.

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NEW CLUB APPLICATIONS

 

Halton Moor  (new Open Age team) & East Leeds accepted into league.

 

Dudley Hill rejected on the grounds they are not members of BARLA or Bradford ARL + outstanding fines owed to Bradford ARL.

 

Pennine ARL must have rules which debarred Dudley Hill from entering the league, however surely the Pennine ARL management could have advised that they meet the criteria - ie: pay any outstanding monies owed and seek the necessary  membership to gain admission.

 

Given that Messrs Gent and Harland are both active members of the Dudley Hill club I wonder whether they were part of the decision to seek admission to a league operating in a dreaded traditional season. If not then beware as the heads will roll for what seems an embarrassing rejection by a non RFL licenced league, 

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I wish they would let them in as its unfair at the moment with half the teams in bradford simply take Dudley hill players for half a season to boost there results. Bowling boosted there performance adding Nathan kitson , who btw had signed for birkenshaw for £150 a game!!!! Wibsey added simon Sewell , jamie brently and Neil wall to their side to help them out.

 

Maybe these players were just returning to their original clubs or simply looking for better standards. And if Dudley Hill players are responsible for helping sevral other clubs to success, how come they are at present languishing mid table in NCL division one instead of topping the premier pile.

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They should have snatched Dudley Hill's hand off, it would have been a real kick in Summer's nuts.

Why would this even be a thought that would cross any administrator's mind?

Why are there so many small minded people in rugby league? This is too pathetic for words. I'm seriously flabbergasted.

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Why would this even be a thought that would cross any administrator's mind?

Why are there so many small minded people in rugby league? This is too pathetic for words. I'm seriously flabbergasted.

I can't help but agree. It's blindingly obvious that there are people involved with certain clubs and leagues who's sole focus seems to be to undermine the summer season. Had they put even half of the energy and drive into making the switch work as they have to trying to ensure it doesn't the game would be in a much healthier state. From one or two examples on here it also looks as though the most vocal critic's of the summer set up are involved with clubs who haven't exactly progressed and set the RL world alight. Had they put a bit more focus into improving the set up and facilities at their own clubs it may well have benefited their members more. Disgraceful.

Not to mention encouraging the turning of a blind eye......when it suits...........

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Summer? Winter? Really couldn't care less. But it seems there are some pretty pathetic people involved with rugby league which probably explains why such a terrific sport is still so marginalised.

Very sad.

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Good to see you are all wanting the best for rugby league, with friends like this we don't need enemies.

 

 Oh dear, someone has an opinion and it upsets you.   You need to appreciate that what you think is best for RL is also only opinion.

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I think you'll find that the rules/laws that forced the Pennine to refuse Dudley Hill are also in the RFL Operational rules.

 

At this moment we don't know if the club and league have had any consultation over the matter, I'd have personally welcomed them into the Pennine but laws/rules need to be adhered to, after all this is what made the NCL £ Pennine such strong competitions.

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Oh dear, someone has an opinion and it upsets you. You need to appreciate that what you think is best for RL is also only opinion.

It's nothing to do with having an opinion. I'm ambivalent about the whole (incredibly dull) winter v summer debate, from where I'm sitting clubs have two viable options and it's purely a matter of choice.

What sickens me is to see people who purport to be 'supporters' of the game behaving in a petty, small minded and, frankly, pathetic way.

"A plague on both your houses."

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I can't help but agree. It's blindingly obvious that there are people involved with certain clubs and leagues who's sole focus seems to be to undermine the summer season. Had they put even half of the energy and drive into making the switch work as they have to trying to ensure it doesn't the game would be in a much healthier state. From one or two examples on here it also looks as though the most vocal critic's of the summer set up are involved with clubs who haven't exactly progressed and set the RL world alight. Had they put a bit more focus into improving the set up and facilities at their own clubs it may well have benefited their members more. Disgraceful.

Not to mention encouraging the turning of a blind eye......when it suits...........

 

There you go again Gar, blind eye here, blind eye there. Just because the Dudley Hill club didn't meet the standard/criteria of a particular league you are quite happy to ignore this fact to let them play.

 

There must be a fundemental need for rules or why would the RFL have generated 32 pages of proposed operational rules.

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It's nothing to do with having an opinion. I'm ambivalent about the whole (incredibly dull) winter v summer debate, from where I'm sitting clubs have two viable options and it's purely a matter of choice.

What sickens me is to see people who purport to be 'supporters' of the game behaving in a petty, small minded and, frankly, pathetic way.

"A plague on both your houses."

 

The issue here is that a particular league refused a particular club entry to their league simply because the club didn't meet the standard/criteria needed.

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FFS! Give over the lot of you, it's pathetic!

If you want winter rugby league join a club that plays in a winter league, if you prefer summer join an RFL league.

This supposed debate is, quite frankly, pathetic and reflects badly on everyone concerned.

Time to grow up, move on, be happy with your own choices and accept other people's choices.

Is that so hard?

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The issue here is that a particular league refused a particular club entry to their league simply because the club didn't meet the standard/criteria needed.

So why is this thread being used as yet another excuse to engage in a juvenile circular 'debate' about winter/summer?

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So why is this thread being used as yet another excuse to engage in a juvenile circular 'debate' about winter/summer?

 

Granted Pottsy the ref should know better, but that said it doesn't take long for other self proclaimed protagonists, to rise to the bait of a careless remark

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FFS! Give over the lot of you, it's pathetic!

If you want winter rugby league join a club that plays in a winter league, if you prefer summer join an RFL league.

This supposed debate is, quite frankly, pathetic and reflects badly on everyone concerned.

Time to grow up, move on, be happy with your own choices and accept other people's choices.

Is that so hard?

For so many people especially on here yes it is. Such a fantastic sport which sadly has it's finger constantly on the self destruct button from top to bottom.

So many short sighted and insular decisions it's often a shock to me how the sport still exists with this all this in built negativity

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I am a newcomer to this forum. As somebody who is comfortable with the idea of summer rugby I seem to be have become something of a target for the pro winter brigade with every post I write dissected and taken apart. To be honest it's not why a joined the forum. I was just looking to engage in some banter and perhaps learn something about a game that has been a big part of my life for nearly fifty years. Judging by some of the other posts others with a similar outlook as mine have chosen not to post anymore which seems a real shame. Unfortunately, I have something of a stubborn streak and allowed myself to become embroiled in some rather petty argument to the detriment of the forum as a whole. In future I think I'll just go back to helping the clubs I support and are involved in be the success stories that they are.

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I am a newcomer to this forum. As somebody who is comfortable with the idea of summer rugby I seem to be have become something of a target for the pro winter brigade with every post I write dissected and taken apart. To be honest it's not why a joined the forum. I was just looking to engage in some banter and perhaps learn something about a game that has been a big part of my life for nearly fifty years. Judging by some of the other posts others with a similar outlook as mine have chosen not to post anymore which seems a real shame. Unfortunately, I have something of a stubborn streak and allowed myself to become embroiled in some rather petty argument to the detriment of the forum as a whole. In future I think I'll just go back to helping the clubs I support and are involved in be the success stories that they are.

 

Well it's good to hear that you'll hang about to put forward your views young man which quite often I don't agree with. That is when I'll look at the construction of your posts and try to put my point over.

 

Stick to it Gar, with fifty years under your belt you will certainly show some resolve.

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Gar the argument for many of us who have been in this process from the outset is that the " FOUR SEASONS CONCEPT " has been lost by many people who do not or want to understand the concept , Pottsy gives a clear example in his " RFL " summer analogy .

 

The game should be played in what ever months suits the respective league / age groups and that is what the game is supposed to be working to .

 

If mature people who profess to understand the game do not understand the mechanics and politics of the sport and want to take their ball home then so be it , but the real rugby league lovers will stay resolute and stay the distance travel up and down the motorways and work to find a working solution for all the game not just a an individual club.

 

I will say it again we have to find the optimum playing time for each section of the game "one fit does not suit all "

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