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Interesting excerpt from the Pennine ARL minutes

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Gar the argument for many of us who have been in this process from the outset is that the " FOUR SEASONS CONCEPT " has been lost by many people who do not or want to understand the concept , Pottsy gives a clear example in his " RFL " summer analogy .

 

The game should be played in what ever months suits the respective league / age groups and that is what the game is supposed to be working to .

 

If mature people who profess to understand the game do not understand the mechanics and politics of the sport and want to take their ball home then so be it , but the real rugby league lovers will stay resolute and stay the distance travel up and down the motorways and work to find a working solution for all the game not just a an individual club.

 

I will say it again we have to find the optimum playing time for each section of the game "one fit does not suit all "

 

It's interesting to see East Leeds - who are going well in NCL 2 - and Siddal, a club that will always remain a force, returning a side to the traditional side of things. Maybe these two clubs and others (Dudley Hill) are realising that they do need to continue where they left off a couple of seasons ago and this is just a step to test the water.

 

One things for sure is that these two clubs will be generating revenue in their club houses, even on the coldest, wettest, frostiest day that the weather can throw at us - mine's a Bovril.

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This used to be a fantastic outlet for those isolated people pushing rugby league forward around the country to discuss the game with dedicated volunteers in the heartlands. Now it has become a Barla vs ex-Barla battle ground for those that have more interest in petty politics than they have in helping the sport grow and spread to new areas. Deeply depressing and a real shame, also a palpable illustration of why we are still a minor sport despite the excellence of the on-field product. Unwelcoming small-minded committee members at insular clubs more interested in scoring points over their neighbours or the governing body than they are in expanding the sport's player base.

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Maybe these players were just returning to their original clubs or simply looking for better standards. And if Dudley Hill players are responsible for helping sevral other clubs to success, how come they are at present languishing mid table in NCL division one instead of topping the premier pile.

 These 3 players are Dudley Hill through and Through. Kitson and Wall GB BARLA internationals. 

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The responses so far sum up the problem with our game,too many personal agendas and selfish attitudes.the pennine league have kept with there entry criteria and dudley hill did not meet it.end of.shame the ncl have not kept to there's lately.

Do people honestly think that the pennine league would be the largest and one of the best run leagues in the country if they were petty and narrow minded.dont think so.

You can't have a strong foundation without rules and they have to be adhered to.as with anything in life.

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The responses so far sum up the problem with our game,too many personal agendas and selfish attitudes.the pennine league have kept with there entry criteria and dudley hill did not meet it.end of.shame the ncl have not kept to there's lately.

Do people honestly think that the pennine league would be the largest and one of the best run leagues in the country if they were petty and narrow minded.dont think so.

You can't have a strong foundation without rules and they have to be adhered to.as with anything in life.

Very true and a good example of a league not keeping to it's rules is the CMS Yorkshire league and look what happened.

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This used to be a fantastic outlet for those isolated people pushing rugby league forward around the country to discuss the game with dedicated volunteers in the heartlands. Now it has become a Barla vs ex-Barla battle ground for those that have more interest in petty politics than they have in helping the sport grow and spread to new areas. Deeply depressing and a real shame, also a palpable illustration of why we are still a minor sport despite the excellence of the on-field product. Unwelcoming small-minded committee members at insular clubs more interested in scoring points over their neighbours or the governing body than they are in expanding the sport's player base.

Perfect summing up and exactly why at the moment I struggle to find reasons to be involved in the sport.

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Perfect summing up and exactly why at the moment I struggle to find reasons to be involved in the sport.

Heart-breaking isn't it? So much bloody potential if they'd just stop undermining each other!!

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Heart-breaking isn't it? So much bloody potential if they'd just stop undermining each other!!

It certainly is.

There's potential for a reworking of a Christmas Carol based on the sport, there's plenty of Scrooge personalities out there. Maybe if there was a way of showing them what the sport and all clubs could be, we may see a change.

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 These 3 players are Dudley Hill through and Through. Kitson and Wall GB BARLA internationals. 

 

I thought that Neil Wall deserved to be the man of the match at the BARLA National Cup Final. He put in a great knock against hot favourites Sharlston Rovers, that almost gave Wibsey the game - great player.

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The responses so far sum up the problem with our game,too many personal agendas and selfish attitudes.the pennine league have kept with there entry criteria and dudley hill did not meet it.end of.shame the ncl have not kept to there's lately.

Do people honestly think that the pennine league would be the largest and one of the best run leagues in the country if they were petty and narrow minded.dont think so.

You can't have a strong foundation without rules and they have to be adhered to.as with anything in life.

 

an excellent post. yes the pennine league have entry criteria and Bradford Dudley Hill did not meet them and were therefore not admitted. this has nothing to do with winter scoring points over summer. however, if you want to get into that game, BDH A today forfeited there game against Thornhill as they couldn't raise a team! so would they have been able to complete their fixtures in the winter?

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Gar the argument for many of us who have been in this process from the outset is that the " FOUR SEASONS CONCEPT " has been lost by many people who do not or want to understand the concept , Pottsy gives a clear example in his " RFL " summer analogy .

 

The game should be played in what ever months suits the respective league / age groups and that is what the game is supposed to be working to .

 

If mature people who profess to understand the game do not understand the mechanics and politics of the sport and want to take their ball home then so be it , but the real rugby league lovers will stay resolute and stay the distance travel up and down the motorways and work to find a working solution for all the game not just a an individual club.

 

I will say it again we have to find the optimum playing time for each section of the game "one fit does not suit all "

I must confess I no knowledge of the mechanics or politics of the sport . That is a conscious decision and a principle I intend to stick to. What I do have is a desire to see the clubs I am involved with continue to flourish. We have expanded our player base and I think both could be described as flourishing and yes we have achieved that through embracing the concept of summer rugby. I'll bang the drum for summer rugby because I think it's a good thing. If in the long term the powers that be decide winter rugby or some other format is the way forward then I will be faced with a choice of either respecting and taking forward that decision or limiting my involvement and letting those that are more supportive of the decision taken move things on. Won't I won't do is seek to undermine the whole foundation of the game by trying to undermine the legitimate choice taken.

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I must confess I no knowledge of the mechanics or politics of the sport . That is a conscious decision and a principle I intend to stick to. What I do have is a desire to see the clubs I am involved with continue to flourish. We have expanded our player base and I think both could be described as flourishing and yes we have achieved that through embracing the concept of summer rugby. I'll bang the drum for summer rugby because I think it's a good thing. If in the long term the powers that be decide winter rugby or some other format is the way forward then I will be faced with a choice of either respecting and taking forward that decision or limiting my involvement and letting those that are more supportive of the decision taken move things on. Won't I won't do is seek to undermine the whole foundation of the game by trying to undermine the legitimate choice taken.

its true that for a minority of clubs summer rugby has been a resounding success.unfortunately for the majority it has not.these are very difficult times for club officials .which direction to take there clubs tradional season or summer.i know many clubs have a foot in both camps and are sitting on the fence to see how things pan out.making the wrong decision now could end up with the demise of there club,nothing anyone wants to see.

If you were to educate yourself about the current politics in the game,then you may understand people's frustration and anger towards the current situation.

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Maybe but you can't change the past. What is it that has made a a resounding success for some and not others?

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I must confess I no knowledge of the mechanics or politics of the sport . That is a conscious decision and a principle I intend to stick to. What I do have is a desire to see the clubs I am involved with continue to flourish. We have expanded our player base and I think both could be described as flourishing and yes we have achieved that through embracing the concept of summer rugby. I'll bang the drum for summer rugby because I think it's a good thing. If in the long term the powers that be decide winter rugby or some other format is the way forward then I will be faced with a choice of either respecting and taking forward that decision or limiting my involvement and letting those that are more supportive of the decision taken move things on. Won't I won't do is seek to undermine the whole foundation of the game by trying to undermine the legitimate choice taken.

 

Which clubs are you involved with ?

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Its relevant because you make statements that cant be verified, its easy to say everything is great and rosy in your garden without any substance to back it up .

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I thought that Neil Wall deserved to be the man of the match at the BARLA National Cup Final. He put in a great knock against hot favourites Sharlston Rovers, that almost gave Wibsey the game - great player.

Hence my point! Dudley hill player almost gave them the game!!!

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Its relevant because you make statements that cant be verified, its easy to say everything is great and rosy in your garden without any substance to back it up .

I'm happy to let individual forum members attached whatever weight they think appropriate to my postings.

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Its relevant because you make statements that cant be verified, its easy to say everything is great and rosy in your garden without any substance to back it up .

Even if he was to say which clubs he was involved in how and why would you want to disprove this.

Why not simply ask what positive moves they've made to make it happen.

By asking the question and making this statement you provided a fine example of the negativity that is so frustrating for many of us involved in the great sport

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You obviously don't know me but don't let that get in the way of things .

I simply ask our friendGar to back up with fact the progress his alledged clubs have made then we can ascertain if he can be taken seriously .

And the reason I don't ask for any example is I know he can't give one .

I administer for some very pro active clubs in the north west and nearly all are experiencing a drop off in numbers and are having to cancell games more in these months than others fact . And I have backed this info up to our governing body the RFL .

For the first time ever clubs are cancelling festivals due to lack of interest and shortage of numbers and this is the lifeblood to some of our clubs sorry for being negative as you put it just purely telling it as it .

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I'm happy to let individual forum members attached whatever weight they think appropriate to my postings.

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I'm happy to let individual forum members attached whatever weight they think appropriate to my postings.

 

 But why won't you make your claims valid by naming the club(s) that has increased either player numbers or income due to the switch to Summer?

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Hey, we'll done, morons, you're killing rugby league.

Seriously, well done. You should be very proud.

Your right, if the morons just paid their fines then they could join the league......

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