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John Drake

30/08/13 - Wigan Warriors v Hull FC KO 8pm

Who will win?   19 members have voted

  1. 1. Who will win?

    • Wigan Warriors
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    • Hull FC
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    • Draw
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From Wane's perspective he learnt the hard way that winning the league was no guarantee he would keep his job. When people's jobs are at stake they will often do whatever it takes. Hence push on the first half of the season, get into the top 5 and then wrap up all the players in cotton wool. It's the only sensible course of action. It's also a ridiculous state of affairs.

i am surprised he didnt go harder for that 2nd spot though. Surely he would rather have had home games than travel to Hudds or Wire?

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Actually, no. If you look at our form over the last 3 years we are better away from home. I think playing in front of big crowds tends to inspire Warrington and the Giants.

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Actually, no. If you look at our form over the last 3 years we are better away from home. I think playing in front of big crowds tends to inspire Warrington and the Giants.

not sure about Hudds but your record at the HJ is pretty poor apart from that one cup win iirc.

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I cannot see the problem with Wigan's team selection, it's what people wanted wasn't it the chance for clubs to be able to blood young players. Both clubs had very young teams out there it shows how far our talent pool has increased through player investment.

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The format of the competition is a disgrace and has to be changed urgently.

 

If clubs want people to keep on buying season tickets then the quality of the weekly rounds must be beyond reproach or they will just give up their season tickets and start to pick and choose the matches that they attend. It has been clear for some time that the weekly rounds have become all but irrelevant in determining the eventual champions - I gave up my season ticket at the end of last season because of this and won't be going back until this issue is addressed to my satisfaction.

 

Leeds have won the last two championships on the back of taking it easy during the weekly rounds and arriving at the play-offs fresh and un-injured whilst clubs like Wigan and Warrington have gone eyeballs out every week of the regular season and then been found wanting in the play-offs due to fatigue and injury. You can't blame the clubs for behaving like they have and now everyone seems to be trying to copy the Leeds approach which leaves the speccies short-changed and frustrated.

 

The champion must revert to being determined by the club that tops the table after the weekly rounds - no ifs no buts, this has to happen.

 

The annual end of season top eight, Skyball, tick-and-pass, scootathon competition must be downgraded in importance before the whole of the game becomes downgraded as a result.

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under either new structure it looks like the playoffs will have stronger rewards for league position like they used to.

Warrington finishing 2nd may have to beat Wigan twice to get to OT. If Wigan win the first suddenly they get home advantage.

The advantages of finishing higher are too small imho.

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Dave - you've hit the nail on the head there. If we throw next week's game, and beat Huddersfield we get a home match to get us to OT and a week's rest. It's a farce!

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Dave - you've hit the nail on the head there. If we throw next week's game, and beat Huddersfield we get a home match to get us to OT and a week's rest. It's a farce!

Next week's match could be a turning point for the game - I think that it could benefit both sides to lose it, so it will be interesting to see how the game pans out. Personally I think I feel a farce coming on.

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As a season ticket holder living 2 hours away I was a little annoyed at the squad named and for a moment asked myself whether I could be bothered if the club couldn't. What I got was a thoroughly entertaining game, some great attacking play from both sides, the best atmosphere in a while and 34 players totally committed to winning the game. Yes I was annoyed at the timekeeping debacle however drove home happy that I had made the effort. The difference in the teams was the composure shown by Houghton and Holdsworth in the last 90 seconds. Hopefully, the game will have prepared the Wigan youngsters well (and Hull's for that matter) for the future.

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under either new structure it looks like the playoffs will have stronger rewards for league position like they used to.

Warrington finishing 2nd may have to beat Wigan twice to get to OT. If Wigan win the first suddenly they get home advantage.

The advantages of finishing higher are too small imho.

Spot on - personally I think the playoffs should be a top 4. 1st and 2nd play for a GF spot. 3rd and 4th play to meet the loser the following week for a GF spot. Making the playoffs a more exclusive reward for a high league finish would help the week to week intensity of the game. The threat of relegation would keep it interesting at the bottom (I'd have one up, one down with second bottom of SL playing second top of the Championship as a winner takes all relegation decider).

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Spot on - personally I think the playoffs should be a top 4. 1st and 2nd play for a GF spot. 3rd and 4th play to meet the loser the following week for a GF spot. Making the playoffs a more exclusive reward for a high league finish would help the week to week intensity of the game. The threat of relegation would keep it interesting at the bottom (I'd have one up, one down with second bottom of SL playing second top of the Championship as a winner takes all relegation decider).

Yep, this is how I'd like to see the playoffs if they move to the 8x3 system.

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Saints did get fined, Saints were the ones that caused a change in the regulations regarding this, just like they were responsible for the off-side law being changed by their continual cheating in the 1966 cup-final.

 

1966!  :tongue:

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Even if there were no playoffs and the season end league leader declared true champions, there would be circumstances where clubs might field weakened teams.

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What's wrong with being a Leigh fan?

Super League snobbery is rife on here.

I and I think most Leeds fans have always had a good relationship with Leigh folk.not because of their locality either,I've always got on with them

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I and I think most Leeds fans have always had a good relationship with Leigh folk.not because of their locality either,I've always got on with them

Is it because their names are very similar?

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What's wrong with being a Leigh fan?

 

Super League snobbery is rife on here.

I wasn't implying that there was, as you well know.

 

A couple of years ago the ESL brought in a regulation that there must be a visible clock that is tied into the time keepers, that is why at Wigan there is now a clock in the West stand that is controlled by the time keepers. 

You ever seen this clock start up?

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We talk a lot about how the team chosen in Club Call is given extra motivation through the feeling they've been picked as the weakest team.

Well, I would imagine that, for a Huddersfield player or fan, all these Wigan and Leeds fans talking about throwing next week's game so they get an easy trip to Huddersfield would be far more motivating than that.

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I like the thought of Paul Anderson screaming at his players - "do you know what Exiled Wiganer wrote about stopped clock gate? We'll make them pay for that!"

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I like the thought of Paul Anderson screaming at his players - "do you know what Exiled Wiganer wrote about stopped clock gate? We'll make them pay for that!"

Pinning it up on the changing room wall as we speak.

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Warrington finishing 2nd may have to beat Wigan twice to get to OT. If Wigan win the first suddenly they get home advantage.

 

Saints have twice had to do that, although last year they failed to get to OT.  But in 2011 we had to beat Wigan twice to get there and last year we had to play Warrington twice: we won the first, lost the second.  I'm glad not to be a part of that farce this year tbh. In 2011 it meant we played Wigan six times in one season which was frankly boring.

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To put the attendance thing into perspective:

 

Hull v Wigan CC Final, att 78,137
England v Moldova WC Qualifier, att 61,607

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