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Tomkins gone to the NZ Warriors

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who are these people who'll be glad he's gone? i'm pretty sure everyone will have wanted him to stay in SL, but will be glad he has gone to nrl over ru.

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that is the one good thing about this. Every Leeds fan I know personally is happy he's off. Then there's the "its good for the game he's going to the NRL" brigade (I disagree). That may not represent the overall view of the forum though and I apologise if I over generalised.

If Wigan lose Charnley as well, as is rumoured, we aren't going to have much of a team! Plenty of money in the bank, but no team.

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that is the one good thing about this. Every Leeds fan I know personally is happy he's off. Then there's the "its good for the game he's going to the NRL" brigade (I disagree). That may not represent the overall view of the forum though and I apologise if I over generalised.

If Wigan lose Charnley as well, as is rumoured, we aren't going to have much of a team! Plenty of money in the bank, but no team.

welcome to years gone by when my club and others had its best players hand picked from it by stronger clubs.

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I ( a leeds fan) will never forgive the two finger salute he gave us at wembley and think he acts like a petulant schoolboy at times but as a player he is of the highest calibre and super league will definitely miss him. On the other hand it can only be a good thing for england as after a year or two honing his skills in oz I think he may replace Mr Slater ( or some may say Ben Barba ) as the best fb the game has to offer! (As much as I hate to admit it)

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Good to know that NZ phone-ins are even more tedious than ours. That was excruciating.

 

I don't really have a strong view on Tomkins leaving. He's a great player, but I don't think he has developed much in the areas you'd need to in order to become the great halfback he should be: tactical kicking, creative passing, even solid defence. So hopefully he'll do that down under.

 

Obviously it's bad news for Super League, but we'll survive. So will Wigan.

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welcome to years gone by when my club and others had its best players hand picked from it by stronger clubs.

At least they were staying in the competition. In some ways I don't mind so much the rare players like Tomkins going to the NRL. But if, the NRL are poaching the not quite as good players, like Mossop, and if rumours are to be believed Charnely and O'Loughlin, take most of the players at that level out of SLE (not just Wigan) and you've got a very poor competition. We could possibly cope if more clubs had excellent youth systems, but there are only 4 if I recall correctly.

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I would much rather he went to the NRL than the Dark Side. He may even improve as a player. If we get to OT this year we'll had a pretty good 4 years from him in the first team.

If any club and team can adjust and move on it's Wigan. 2014 may be grim but we'll adapt.

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Queue rejoicing from people glad he's gone! In my opinion SLE will miss him.

Ah yes, because everyone has it in for poor ol' Wigan.

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I ( a leeds fan) will never forgive the two finger salute he gave us at wembley

Even if he wins the World Cup?

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What I can't understand is why he'd want to swap the fleshpots of Ormskirk and the Golborne clubbing scene for Auckland of all places!

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Ah yes, because everyone has it in for poor ol' Wigan.

Where did I say that was the reason for the crowing? My meaning is that he's one of the most divisive figures in the league. If he played for Leeds there would still be similar sentiments (although Stevo would love him even more).

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Even if he wins the World Cup?

Even winning the World Cup doesn't make gesturing towards opposition fans during such a high profile game live on national tv right!

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Even winning the World Cup doesn't make gesturing towards opposition fans during such a high profile game live on national tv right!

 

And your opinion of how the Leeds fans treated him in the Exiles match? 

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At least they were staying in the competition. In some ways I don't mind so much the rare players like Tomkins going to the NRL. But if, the NRL are poaching the not quite as good players, like Mossop, and if rumours are to be believed Charnely and O'Loughlin, take most of the players at that level out of SLE (not just Wigan) and you've got a very poor competition. We could possibly cope if more clubs had excellent youth systems, but there are only 4 if I recall correctly.

 

What I am struggling with is that we are constantly being told (by some on here anyway) about the wonderful strength in depth of the NRL and that they could produce between 3 and 5 teams capable of beating England. If this is true, why do they feel the need to pick up more and more of our players?

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What I am struggling with is that we are constantly being told (by some on here anyway) about the wonderful strength in depth of the NRL and that they could produce between 3 and 5 teams capable of beating England. If this is true, why do they feel the need to pick up more and more of our players?

A friend of mine, when discussing sports and participation numbers liked to say, the wider the base the higher the pyramid. They have a wider base and more players at the higher level. That doesn't mean that every player in the NRL is better than every player in ESL. That's a myth that should have been disproved by now.

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A friend of mine, when discussing sports and participation numbers liked to say, the wider the base the higher the pyramid. They have a wider base and more players at the higher level. That doesn't mean that every player in the NRL is better than every player in ESL. That's a myth that should have been disproved by now.

 

I agree, many don't. 

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My fear is for his body. He's always getting injured and he'll be a target for cynical tackling. I hope the Warriors will have some tough forwards to look after his interests.

 

I wish him all the best. He's an absolute credit to Superleague.

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And your opinion of how the Leeds fans treated him in the Exiles match?

I was at that game but wasn't one of the small minority that boo'd him and don't condone it one bit. My point was that he is a high profile player and shouldn't be acting in such a manner when he is supposed to be a role model for the next generation of young players. What my original post was about is that even tho he can be hot headed and sometimes a little cocky he is still a great player and sl will miss him!

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I ( a leeds fan) will never forgive the two finger salute he gave us at wembley and think he acts like a petulant schoolboy at times but as a player he is of the highest calibre and super league will definitely miss him. On the other hand it can only be a good thing for england as after a year or two honing his skills in oz I think he may replace Mr Slater ( or some may say Ben Barba ) as the best fb the game has to offer! (As much as I hate to admit it)

Get over it!

I'm a Leeds fan and would love him here. Barba isn't the best either. The NRL would have improved his skills too had he gone to an Australian club but the Warriors are structure less and coaching wise, never seem to get it right, so I can't see this move having too much effect on his game.

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My fear is for his body. He's always getting injured and he'll be a target for cynical tackling. I hope the Warriors will have some tough forwards to look after his interests.

 

I wish him all the best. He's an absolute credit to Superleague.

He's very rarely been injured until recently, and I suspect that was Wane wrapping him in cotton wool.

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Get over it!

I'm a Leeds fan and would love him here. Barba isn't the best either. The NRL would have improved his skills too had he gone to an Australian club but the Warriors are structure less and coaching wise, never seem to get it right, so I can't see this move having too much effect on his game.

Playing against higher quality teams in (in the main) closer games week in week out would improve anyone's game.

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I thought the cheapest shot he's received this season was Tanya Arnold's pitchside interview with him at Wembley last week. She should be ashamed. It was crass, insensitive and out of keeping with the occasion.

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And your opinion of how the Leeds fans treated him in the Exiles match? 

I'll say again, I'd be very disappointed with the fans of 11 SL clubs and countless other clubs if Leeds fans were the only ones that bothered to turn up at an England match because it was at Headingley

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