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I was at that game but wasn't one of the small minority that boo'd him and don't condone it one bit. My point was that he is a high profile player and shouldn't be acting in such a manner when he is supposed to be a role model for the next generation of young players. What my original post was about is that even tho he can be hot headed and sometimes a little cocky he is still a great player and sl will miss him!

I'd agree about the 2 fingered salute, but I do think he's been better more recently

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I thought the cheapest shot he's received this season was Tanya Arnold's pitchside interview with him at Wembley last week. She should be ashamed. It was crass, insensitive and out of keeping with the occasion.

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Anyone who has been a journalist would know that it is part of their job. Who knows she may have even had the programme editor in her ear saying asking him about his future. It is one of the reasons I didn't enjoy my time as a hack but it is 100% what is required for the job. Some people may not like that but the same people would have spent hours debating the scoop had he let slip about his intentions.

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Poor signing. Won't be able to keep up with the speed and intensity in the NRL. (Petero mode)

Great signing if true, hopefully he goes well.

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I'll say again, I'd be very disappointed with the fans of 11 SL clubs and countless other clubs if Leeds fans were the only ones that bothered to turn up at an England match because it was at Headingley

I was at that game with a neutral and a Bradford fan. They were both pretty embarrassed by the booboys. A country game held at a club ground will always have a majority of the fans will be from the club of the stadium (I'm guessing you're trying to ssay "it wasn't just us" or some other such nonsense). From the other supporters there I saw one Warrington supy boo slightly sheepishly for a few mins before stopping. The vast majority of the boo boys were leeds southstanders. However you want to frame it, it was embarrassing to be a RL supporter that day. It showed the worst aspects of the tribalism of our supporters, which can be both a blessing and a curse.

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What did Tanya say at wembley I was at the leeds festival and didn't bother watching it in skyplus as I'd heard it wasn't a great game ?

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I was at that game with a neutral and a Bradford fan. They were both pretty embarrassed by the booboys. A country game held at a club ground will always have a majority of the fans will be from the club of the stadium (I'm guessing you're trying to ssay "it wasn't just us" or some other such nonsense). From the other supporters there I saw one Warrington supy boo slightly sheepishly for a few mins before stopping. The vast majority of the boo boys were leeds southstanders. However you want to frame it, it was embarrassing to be a RL supporter that day. It showed the worst aspects of the tribalism of our supporters, which can be both a blessing and a curse.

I just want to point out, I don't condone booing opposition or home players. It annoys me when it happens when teams come out, but yes I am saying it wasn't necessarily just Leeds fans. I imagine that a fair chunk of the crowd were leeds fans just due to the location, but I do take issue with people saying that because the game was played in Leeds, all the booing fans were Leeds supporters.

 

For the record, I didn't boo him, but I did yell at him in annoyance (no swearing) at one point when he was just running laterally on the pitch and making no progress

 

 

EDIT: Anyway, back on topic. Good luck to him wherever he plays (as long as it's within RL and he has a bad game whenever he plays against Leeds)

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I was at that game with a neutral and a Bradford fan. They were both pretty embarrassed by the booboys. A country game held at a club ground will always have a majority of the fans will be from the club of the stadium (I'm guessing you're trying to ssay "it wasn't just us" or some other such nonsense). From the other supporters there I saw one Warrington supy boo slightly sheepishly for a few mins before stopping. The vast majority of the boo boys were leeds southstanders. However you want to frame it, it was embarrassing to be a RL supporter that day. It showed the worst aspects of the tribalism of our supporters, which can be both a blessing and a curse.

But you can't have seen all the supporters in the south stand that day so how can you say it was mainly leeds fans. No one booed before the game when Tompkins name was read out on the team sheet over the tannoy if it was leeds fans that set out to boo him they would have done then. He was booed after running from one end of the pitch to the other and then back again without Makin any yards and failin to pass on a number of opportunities.

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But you can't have seen all the supporters in the south stand that day so how can you say it was mainly leeds fans. No one booed before the game when Tompkins name was read out on the team sheet over the tannoy if it was leeds fans that set out to boo him they would have done then. He was booed after running from one end of the pitch to the other and then back again without Makin any yards and failin to pass on a number of opportunities.

Actually you are wrong. When the team was being read out the southstanders booed every player who didn't play for Leeds. Either you weren't there or must have forgotten that.

When the match started everyone knows what happened.

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I was there but don't recall that happening I'm interested to know if anyone else witnessed this before the game cos it's news to me

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Well I'm pretty sure anyone who was there and had working ears heard it. The chances are no leeds supporters will admit it and they were the majority of supporters there.

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Even winning the World Cup doesn't make gesturing towards opposition fans during such a high profile game live on national tv right!

I never said it did.

You said you would never forgive him. I think that's pretty sad to be fair. Get over it. He's not done it since. It was stupid. He got in trouble for it. And he plays his socks off for this country.

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Who cares about that Exiles match now? Stop talking about it, it's boring.

 

Anyway, I'm pleased by this news as I think Tomkins will be a great addition for the NRL. Slightly surprised the Bulldogs didn't make a late play for him, but I guess they might've been put off by the coin he's supposedly demanding.

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I ( a leeds fan) will never forgive the two finger salute he gave us at wembley and think he acts like a petulant schoolboy at times but as a player he is of the highest calibre and super league will definitely miss him. On the other hand it can only be a good thing for england as after a year or two honing his skills in oz I think he may replace Mr Slater ( or some may say Ben Barba ) as the best fb the game has to offer! (As much as I hate to admit it)

Having been stood at Headingley when those poor, innocent Leeds fans were politely asking if Lee Briers interfered with kids, might I suggest to save you holier than thou attitude for your fellow Loiners.

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Having been stood at Headingley when those poor, innocent Leeds fans were politely asking if Lee Briers interfered with kids, might I suggest to save you holier than thou attitude for your fellow Loiners.

So headingley is the only place we hear derogatory chants towards opposition players is it? It happens all the time at any sl ground. This feed has completely gone off track. I did say Sam Tompkins is a terrific player and will make any team better with him in it and that sl will b worse off without him. Good luck Sam.

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So headingley is the only place we hear derogatory chants towards opposition players is it? It happens all the time at any sl ground. This feed has completely gone off track. I did say Sam Tompkins is a terrific player and will make any team better with him in it and that sl will b worse off without him. Good luck Sam.

No, I've heard racist chants aimed at Ali Lauititi from the South Stand at the HJ. My point is, if you want to dish it out from the safety of the terraces, don't squeal like a stuck pig when it's given back to you.

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One thing that strikes me about him as a player is that he is extremely reliant on acceleration and agility. He may go on to be a legend in the game, and I hope he does for the game's and England's sakes, but I sometimes wonder whether he could be another Michael Owen and find life harder if he loses his edge.

This isn't meant to be a fans' - "he was rubbish all along" rationalising, rather it's genuine conjecture.

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One thing that strikes me about him as a player is that he is extremely reliant on acceleration and agility. He may go on to be a legend in the game, and I hope he does for the game's and England's sakes, but I sometimes wonder whether he could be another Michael Owen and find life harder if he loses his edge.

This isn't meant to be a fans' - "he was rubbish all along" rationalising, rather it's genuine conjecture.

 

I agree entirely, and hope we're both wrong.

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One thing that strikes me about him as a player is that he is extremely reliant on acceleration and agility. He may go on to be a legend in the game, and I hope he does for the game's and England's sakes, but I sometimes wonder whether he could be another Michael Owen and find life harder if he loses his edge.

This isn't meant to be a fans' - "he was rubbish all along" rationalising, rather it's genuine conjecture.

Speed/pace is the difference between ran and also ran.

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And your opinion of how the Leeds fans treated him in the Exiles match? 

 

Have to agree with you... I watch Leeds almost every game and was disgusted with the abuse given to Tomkins that day by our fans and on subsequent occasions. No excuse for his subsequent foolish finger sign at Wembley... at least he apologised - not many Leeds fans would think there behaviour warranted an apology, pity.

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Anyone who has been a journalist would know that it is part of their job. Who knows she may have even had the programme editor in her ear saying asking him about his future. It is one of the reasons I didn't enjoy my time as a hack but it is 100% what is required for the job. Some people may not like that but the same people would have spent hours debating the scoop had he let slip about his intentions.

 

Yep you may be right... never-the-less it came across as very amateurish, very crass and no doubt I would assume she was embarrassed herself at the manner of it... that is it was clear it was her only intention with no interest in anything else.  

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Thought he'd gone already - barely seen him in the Wigan team since May. We'll survive - the King is dead, long live the King.

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Thought he'd gone already - barely seen him in the Wigan team since May. We'll survive - the King is dead, long live the King.

I hope he's replaced with an experienced full back for a season or two. Hampshire or Tierney aren't ready for the position week in week out.

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I hope he's replaced with an experienced full back for a season or two. Hampshire or Tierney aren't ready for the position week in week out.

 

 

Matt Bowen, according to the press.

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Even winning the World Cup doesn't make gesturing towards opposition fans during such a high profile game live on national tv right!

 

Aw diddums, grow up.

He is if nothing else, a passionate winner and the fact that he had a go back at the Leeds fans could, just possibly, be for the barracking and abuse he has had to put up with from them each and everytime he has played at Leeds.

Even for the England V Exiles match he was abused, by what was as I recall mainly attributed to a section of Leeds fans in the crowd.

 

 Its amazing that within a world of far less mannerly people than ever everyone is just to easily insulted now with 'respect' not being shown, when it suits.  

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Poor signing. Won't be able to keep up with the speed and intensity in the NRL. (Petero mode)

Great signing if true, hopefully he goes well.

 

You do like to cherrypick the comments to suit your argument B, don't you?

 

Speedwise, no problem, but I will stick out my neck and state that the intensity will come as a shock to him if he is installed in the F/B position.

 

I will also repeat that for your sake, I sincerely hope that he does do well down there, as I do for all of our lads that go to play in the NRL. The better he does the more pleased I will be, but ( another repeat, for your sake) I do have my doubts that F/B will be the position that he will do best at in the NRL.

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