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Does London need a top-class Super League club? (Merged Threads)

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It doesn't make you think of a side that intends to stay in SL.

They finished bottom this year and need to finish at least two places higher next year to avoid relegation.

Naturally redundancies in the back office and a much weaker squad are not the way to achieve this.

They seem to be planning for CC.

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It doesn't make you think of a side that intends to stay in SL.They finished bottom this year and need to finish at least two places higher next year to avoid relegation.Naturally redundancies in the back office and a much weaker squad are not the way to achieve this.They seem to be planning for CC.

Very difficult to imagine they can do much else. Until they are sold, they can't invest in next year's team & by then, there won't be many players left! Expect they will look to do the same as Wakey - best they can next season with limited resources & then aim to use the new structure to move forward & get back into SL if they lose their place next year.

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Very difficult to imagine they can do much else. Until they are sold, they can't invest in next year's team & by then, there won't be many players left! Expect they will look to do the same as Wakey - best they can next season with limited resources & then aim to use the new structure to move forward & get back into SL if they lose their place next year.

I agree that they have no other rational choice but it does sound like whatever their "Plan A" was, it hasn't worked.

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Sad to hear, hope those who are let go get fixed up soon with something else.

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Gus Mackay should be made redundant.

That's if we're being kind to him. He's the straw that broke the camel's back - one bad decision after another. The latest being the club holding the Player of The Year event this week, and fans only finding out about it when players were posting the results on twitter.

 

Thirty years of stumbling from one crisis to another, and now it looks like it's all over. One crisis too far. Such a shame that it's happening at the point where the junior development system is finally producing quality players. Anyone who thinks Rugby League will have another London team in the top flight any time soon is deluding themselves. Going to be a generation before that happens, if ever.

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Taking the positives out of this statement

  • The players have at last been informed of what is going on
  • The RFL has also spoken to the players
  • Steve Magee - The Real Mr London Broncos - Short-Term future is secure

Err that's it...

 

Negatives

  • You cannot run a Super League Club with No Ticketing, PR or Marketing staff. IF ian Ramsdale is to be believed there will be no Backroom staff apart from Steve McGee, Tony Rea and a couple of Player Performance managers.
  • It reads like the Youth set up is to be dismantled. So those on here who have - rightly - pointed out that the clubs juniors are worth persevering with cannot have this as an reason for retaining the club any longer

I am not sure though for the Under 19's and their families this is such a great surprise. Post -the Under 19 game before the Huddersfield match not only did some of the parents not stay for the main game but some of the emotional post game hugs between players and families had a air of finality about it.

 

One thing Rammo has got wrong is that a lot of the staff contracts such as the PR man expire on 30th September so the club avoids paying redundancy on the basis that this is the expiry of a fixed term contract and most staff have under two years service.

 

Robertson and Kaufusi will be going.to whoever wants them.

 

The club needs to reduce costs and cannot afford the £ 250,000 rent at The Stoop (David Hughes - Last Quins RL Fan Forum), Leyton Orient would be just as expensive. Gillingham is off the table and so it would appear is the Hive. The only alternative would be to approach Fusion the owners of new River about a ground share with the Skolars and of course, if the club ended there it would not be as a Super League club at all.

 

Its getting more than 75% certain that the club will go next week unless there is someone around who no-one knows about.

 

The RFL must now act to protect the integrity of the game and take decisive action regarding the composition of Super League 2014. I have absolutely no doubt that the contents of todays training ground discussion at Roehampton will leak out onto the internet over the coming days. From a PR perspective there is a simple choice for the RFL take decisive action now or allow the Broncos saga to become the defining narrative of the Super League playoffs and upcoming World Cup. :(

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It doesn't make you think of a side that intends to stay in SL.They finished bottom this year and need to finish at least two places higher next year to avoid relegation.Naturally redundancies in the back office and a much weaker squad are not the way to achieve this.They seem to be planning for CC.

You left off the smiley face.

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There is no reason to be smiling.

Yep, it's disappointing that London have ended up here.

It's well trodden ground on here but a team in London should be sustainable by now

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We just need a third team to go jugs-up and there could be a decent round robin scrap to avoid those bottom two places next year.

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Haven't Barnet FC just moved into a new ground? They're hardly cash rich, and might welcome the income of a tenant. I'm sure it'd meet the SL capacity criteria.

* Edit - just belatedly realised that 'The Hive' IS the new Barnet ground. Shame its unavailable as it looks like it'd be a pretty suitable option for the Broncos. Anyone know why its 'no longer' an option?

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Very sad, it's like watching a beached whale die

 

The timing of all these clubs going through trouble is impeccable with regard to WC PR - we don't half know how to shoot ourselves in the foot

 

Broncos saddens me more than any other though

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For a club (and i use that term loosely) that has so few staff beyond the coaching staff, to actually make some people at the place redundant shows what an absolutely awful mess David Hughes and 'Goose' McKay have made of the Broncos in the last couple of years.. If, and its a big if, they're in for 2014 it certainly will be the last year for them, unless a takeover of the club happens.

It sickens me to see what a complete cock-up these people have made of running a pro sports club here in London. For the record, imo, they've not  "had a good go" of exposing the people of London to Rugby League, because the biggest failure (of many) they have committed is in NOT exposing the game of Rugby League to the people of London.. how the hell do you expect people to support a team and a sport when you don't tell people its there in the first place. Complete idiots.

 

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For a club (and i use that term loosely) that has so few staff beyond the coaching staff, to actually make some people at the place redundant shows what an absolutely awful mess David Hughes and 'Goose' McKay have made of the Broncos in the last couple of years.. If, and its a big if, they're in for 2014 it certainly will be the last year for them, unless a takeover of the club happens.

It sickens me to see what a complete cock-up these people have made of running a pro sports club here in London. For the record, imo, they've not  "had a good go" of exposing the people of London to Rugby League, because the biggest failure (of many) they have committed is in NOT exposing the game of Rugby League to the people of London.. how the hell do you expect people to support a team and a sport when you don't tell people its there in the first place. Complete idiots.

 

 I doubt that you will find many people who have followed and or continue to do so in London and the South will disagree with any of that.

 Shambolic doesnt scratch the surface when describing our Club. Very sad to have witnessed its total capitulation over the recent past.

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For a club (and i use that term loosely) that has so few staff beyond the coaching staff, to actually make some people at the place redundant shows what an absolutely awful mess David Hughes and 'Goose' McKay have made of the Broncos in the last couple of years.. If, and its a big if, they're in for 2014 it certainly will be the last year for them, unless a takeover of the club happens.

It sickens me to see what a complete cock-up these people have made of running a pro sports club here in London. For the record, imo, they've not  "had a good go" of exposing the people of London to Rugby League, because the biggest failure (of many) they have committed is in NOT exposing the game of Rugby League to the people of London.. how the hell do you expect people to support a team and a sport when you don't tell people its there in the first place. Complete idiots.

 

 

Agree with all that.

 

Very hard to see that anything at all can be in place for 2014.

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Interesting that people blame Gus Mackay for the problems. My view is that the club was already in tatters before he came in and he was in a lose-lose situation. I dont think anyone would have done better with David Hughes in charge alone.

The recent mistakes have been down to poor player recruitment and not moving after the rebrand back to the London Broncos, and then getting a decent team.

The problem is that David Hughes has not had sufficient time or money to put the club on a sound footing and it would be better if someone else came in to help or takeover. The problem now is that the club is probably worthless so David Hughes will be unlikely to want to part unless he can somehow have a lucky season and raise the profile.

Has Koukash got any relatives?

Hope that the club can stay alive even if in on the Co-Op leagues. It wont be too bad when the new structures come in, and the club could easily find its way back in SL as can Cru

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Is it time for pro RL within the M25 to regroup and consolidate? A single, strong London RL entity playing Championship rugby at New River Stadium might be the best option until another Koukash can be found.

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