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Now or in the finals

HTH.

Or to be serious - it was inevitable.

To be serious, it wasn't.

I enjoyed club call. I think it worked against Wire, as frankly the choice was Hobson's choice for them.

I think they should have chosen Leeds, as they were a class above them only 2 weeks ago, and seem to have a few walking wounded.

2 great games.

Leeds will need to be at their very best to win, with Pat, the Moose and Sam wanting to win their last home game for the club.

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That's not the decision I would have made but I'm very happy because it sets up some cracking possibilities for the final:

 

Leeds vs Huddersfield - an all Yorkshire affair with an intense local rivalry (if this forum is anything to go by).

 

Warrington vs Leeds - a rematch of last year with Wire now having some experience of the big day under their belt.

 

Wigan vs Warrington - the final which the game has seemingly been crying out for.

 

Huddersfield vs Wigan - the LLS winners against the CC winners.

 

All of those combinations have something special about them and I believe that the game will benefit from Warrington's decision even if they don't.

 

Lots to look forward to!

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Did they say how they picked it?

They said they decided before this weekend to choose the winner of Hudds/Hull.

So basically, "anybody but Leeds"

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Have Wigan conceded their game against Huddersfield then?

Since Warrington couldn't choose Wigan their potential presence in the GF is out of their control, so the sensible choice is to take the team you would least like to see at OT that you can pick from. I think they made the wrong choice, Leeds would be easier to beat at the HJ Stadium than OT, one of their favourite hunting grounds.

I just can't see the logic for Warrington choosing Huddersfield, after their performance on Thursday and form over the course of the season. However its certainly the ties the RFL would prefer, as there was a much greater risk of Hudds making the GF going to Wigan and that would be a disaster for GF attendance.

I'm happy from a rugby fan point of view though as we didn't get repeat fixtures.

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Since Warrington couldn't choose Wigan their potential presence in the GF is out of their control, so the sensible choice is to take the team you would least like to see at OT that you can pick from. I think they made the wrong choice, Leeds would be easier to beat at the HJ Stadium than OT, one of their favourite hunting grounds. I just can't see the logic for Warrington choosing Huddersfield, after their performance on Thursday and form over the course of the season. However its certainly the ties the RFL would prefer, as there was a much greater risk of Hudds making the GF going to Wigan and that would be a disaster for GF attendance. I'm happy from a rugby fan point of view though as we didn't get repeat fixtures.

If Thursdays match was a factor, I think it would be that Hudds have lost to Wigan and then beat an underperforming Hull side, so their recent matches have lacked the intensity of Leeds (away at wigan, loss to wire then close win at Saints).

The benefits could swing either way. Huddersfield players will be fresher but not necessarily have the mindset, whereas Leeds players will be in the right frame of mind but very battered and bruised.

Ultimately, I would have rather Wire picked Leeds as there's a gig in London on Friday night that I wanted to see and now I'm going to miss it.

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Yes I'm sure that was reason behind it, hmmm......

And Widnes are playing who next weekend? Widnes are changing their shirt colour next year I believe to primrose and blue......that way they can at least play in the same colours as a team that wins challenge cups and makes the finals play offs/grand final. Or are they just going to mix blue and yellow together to make a green(with envy)shirt? 

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It was the correct choice. If we take the Wigan win at Hudds the other week, why the Hell would we basically hand them, on paper, the easier task while we have to play the side that's made a habit of winning the whole thing.

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How about Leroy Cudjoe to win with a 90m intercept again

Dear God, no.

 

Can you imagine Paul Anderson in a Nathan Brown esque mode, jumping up and down on the touchline as Cudjoe went past?

 

There could well be a bit of damage down the touchline and possibly with the stand foundations.

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Since Warrington couldn't choose Wigan their potential presence in the GF is out of their control, so the sensible choice is to take the team you would least like to see at OT that you can pick from. I think they made the wrong choice, Leeds would be easier to beat at the HJ Stadium than OT, one of their favourite hunting grounds. I just can't see the logic for Warrington choosing Huddersfield, after their performance on Thursday and form over the course of the season. However its certainly the ties the RFL would prefer, as there was a much greater risk of Hudds making the GF going to Wigan and that would be a disaster for GF attendance. I'm happy from a rugby fan point of view though as we didn't get repeat fixtures.

I won't be in the slightest bit worried about the attendance if Huddersfield reach OT. I'm sure many fair weather fans will come out of the woodwork. If OT is below capacity so what. If Huddersfield beat Warrington they and their fans deserve their day out on the big stage.

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It was the correct choice. If we take the Wigan win at Hudds the other week, why the Hell would we basically hand them, on paper, the easier task while we have to play the side that's made a habit of winning the whole thing.

I don't think Huddersfield are the easier task. Of their two performances in the playoffs, I think last Thursday is more indicative of the level of performance of Huddersfield this season. Unless we are expecting rain to influence the tactics in Warrington next Saturday, then the evidence of the week before is fairly irrelevant. Also if Leeds are such a threat to win it (and they are), why not take them at home, after a rest and they did it tough against Saints. Surely the chances are better of beating them at the HJ under those conditions rather than OT, unless of course you're confident you'll win under either scenario.

As a Wigan fan, I'm happier to play Leeds than Huddersfield because of the reasons above - I just don't think we are good enough to beat either when it matters.

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I won't be in the slightest bit worried about the attendance if Huddersfield reach OT. I'm sure many fair weather fans will come out of the woodwork. If OT is below capacity so what. If Huddersfield beat Warrington they and their fans deserve their day out on the big stage.

Not saying they don't deserve it, but the RFL and Sky would be concerned about the attendance for their showpiece. There is no way that there are enough fair weather fans in Hudds for it not to be an issue in an 77k capacity stadium.

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Yeah because Wembley was deserted when Huddersfield played Wire there, and Twickenham was a ghost town when they played Saints...poor trolling

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Not the challenge cup, we didn't get there. I can only assume you weren't watching

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I have heard the Huddersfield sporting public were in Manchester today supporting

Out of Towner's United

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There really is some poor trolling on here!!

 

Giants at OT will be just as good as anyone else, the public of Huddersfield like success and a good win over Warrington would set the town alight!

 

And as most people on here keep forgetting a lot of tickets for OT and the coming RLWC have been bought by fans outside the north!

 

So wake up and look outside people.

 

Giants for OT and Salford for the CC in the next 3 years, Widnes for the playoffs and London and Wakey to drop down a division in 2015 both to come back by 2018 through the new structure having rebuilt

 

The game is going through a great rotation, no, really, it is!

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Yeah because Wembley was deserted when Huddersfield played Wire there, and Twickenham was a ghost town when they played Saints...poor trolling

I've nothing against Huddersfield, but the Challenge Cup has always struck me as having the greater proportion of neutrals than GFs which are dominated more by supporters of the teams in question. For example, I was at both of those Huddersfield CC finals as I make an annual trip to London irrespective of who gets there (as do many). However I would not attend a GF that doesn't involve Wigan and noticed less neutrals when Wigan have been fortunate enough to get there. Just an observation, not trolling, but feel free to go off at the deep end defending any perceived slight or otherwise on your club as you usually do anyway.

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So, Wire have to choose one of two teams in the Club Call format when there were good reasons to choose either. Not a big deal. Choosing Hudds was hardly a surprise.

 

Wire get the advantage of having a bit more time for planning for their game than the other teams because of their record in the league and playoffs and because they knew on Thursday night which side they would choose... fair play to them.

 

Now for some adjustments to the work schedule to get to Warrington on Thursday night...

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I've nothing against Huddersfield, but the Challenge Cup has always struck me as having the greater proportion of neutrals than GFs which are dominated more by supporters of the teams in question. For example, I was at both of those Huddersfield CC finals as I make an annual trip to London irrespective of who gets there (as do many). However I would not attend a GF that doesn't involve Wigan and noticed less neutrals when Wigan have been fortunate enough to get there. Just an observation, not trolling, but feel free to go off at the deep end defending any perceived slight or otherwise on your club as you usually do anyway.

 

My perception of the GF is that it attracts a lot of neutrals, but it doesn't particularly attract none regular RL fans which the CC Final certainly does, and even more so it seems over the last couple of years.

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My perception of the GF is that it attracts a lot of neutrals, but it doesn't particularly attract none regular RL fans which the CC Final certainly does, and even more so it seems over the last couple of years.

 

My extensive quantitative research on this in my local pub and cricket club has revealed that GF is attracting neutrals and even people who have never been to a professional rugby game before. The people who are in the latter category, to whom I have spoken, who were mainly soccer and/or cricket fans, have all said how much they have enjoyed the matches, the occasions, the atmosphere and the fact that fans can mix, have a bit of banter, and drink without a load of aggro. I guess that a lot of people like big events even if they don't know a great deal about the sport they are watching, cf games at Twickers etc.

 

Reasons to be cheerful about RL, 1,2,3 ...

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My extensive quantitative research on this in my local pub and cricket club has revealed that GF is attracting neutrals and even people who have never been to a professional rugby game before. The people who are in the latter category, to whom I have spoken, who were mainly soccer and/or cricket fans, have all said how much they have enjoyed the matches, the occasions, the atmosphere and the fact that fans can mix, have a bit of banter, and drink without a load of aggro. I guess that a lot of people like big events even if they don't know a great deal about the sport they are watching, cf games at Twickers etc.

 

Reasons to be cheerful about RL, 1,2,3 ...

 

I'm not saying that the GF doesn't attract the none RL supporter, I am saying its obvious at the CCF that it does as you come across (in my case anyway) a lot more.

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I guess it is about building the appeal of the GF as a big event to neutrals and non RL followers. Not a bad time of year for such an occasion also...

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Can't help thinkin that hudds have been a bit hard done to. Three Thursday games, for the league leaders?! Not much of a reward for finishing top is it?

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