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Tomkins to NRL?

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Great Player.....bit cocky but so what...he's young and successful so why shouldn't be be.

 

I think he might be a little slight for the NRL but we'll see.....i hope he goes over there and keeps improving

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How well did he play against Australia last year? Anonymous would be one description.

Name one England player who played well against Australia last year.

 

 

Actually, name one England player who played against Australia last year. :P 

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i just don't get all the anti tomkins garbage that gets spouted, sure twice a season i hate sam but for the other 363 i think he is one of only two world class players in super league and love watching him play. when he goes down under their gain will certainly be super leagues loss.

as for sam being a cocky so and so......so was the greatest player i have ever seen......alex murphy.

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I'd hardly call his tackling poor. How bad is it compared to other full backs? And under the high ball?

Anonymous last year against the Aussies indeed. We didn't play then last year probably being the main reason for that!

I don't think Billy Slater is a tackle machine but the guy can diffuse just about any bomb and scores amazing tries. Tomkins is of this ilk.

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Is this thread an example of a classic troll?

 

D'oh, I fell for it too!!!

 

 

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I'd hardly call his tackling poor. How bad is it compared to other full backs? And under the high ball?

Anonymous last year against the Aussies indeed. We didn't play then last year probably being the main reason for that!

Even if he is referring to the 2011 4N his opinion is still completely wrong.

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billy slater is shocking in defence,often late into tackle he slides in with his feet,infact he likes using his feet that much he's started kicking people in the head when he catches high balls....

can't wait till the horrible little man retires!!

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Tackling....Danny Brough just ran round him last week. A one on one tackle against hardly the fastest, most elusive player in the SL.

Johnny Wilkinson is on £600K in France.

Where are the big money offers from all these clubs around the world all desperate to have him in the team? Did all the NRL teams bid for him? apologies for 4 Nations slip, it was the year before he was anonymous. I was at Elland Road hoping he'd do something but he didnt. Darren Lockyer in comparison was superb.

I am not anti-Tomkins - genius with the ball if you read it -but when I have watched him, he regularly misses tackles and looks uncertain under high balls.

But let's wait and see how he gets on in the NRL in a mid-table team and how he does the RLWC. If he is fantastic and I hope he is, then I will change my opinion.

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Tackling....Danny Brough just ran round him last week. A one on one tackle against hardly the fastest, most elusive player in the SL.

Jonny Wilkinson is on £600K in France.

Where are the big money offers from all these clubs around the world all desperate to have him in the team? Did all the NRL teams bid for him? apologies for 4 Nations slip, it was the year before he was anonymous. I was at Elland Road hoping he'd do something but he didnt. Darren Lockyer in comparison was superb.

I am not anti-Tomkins - genius with the ball if you read it -but when I have watched him, he regularly misses tackles and looks uncertain under high balls.

But let's wait and see how he gets on in the NRL in a mid-table team and how he does the RLWC. If he is fantastic and I hope he is, then I will change my opinion.

Firstly you can't have one incident be the basis of someone's ability in defence. Second if you watch it again Tomkins has to run across from the right and has maybe half a second to get his feet, it was also a brilliant step by Brough. It would of been a wonder tackle by Tomkins rather than a poor mistake if he didn't make it.

600k for Wilkinson is well wasted then and I don't believe that figure anyways do you have a source? Top NRL players will be on near that soon anyways.

The whole England team didn't show up to that tournament anyways. It was also 3 years ago and Sam has majorly improved since then. You are also referring to a tournament where Tony Clubb was the joint top try scorer.

Regarding NRL interest, a lot were put off by his wage demands. NZ Warriors made there interest fairly vocal, a few others have been reported but havent made it as public as NZ.

Right so he's poor because arguably the best half back in the last 20 years had a good game in a dominant side and he had a poor game in a worse side? Thats fair enough.

His tackle success is one of the best for a full back in SL, and if you can find 5 ocassions he has dropped a high ball then I will be surprised. I always ask for one and I never get one. That's this season i am talking about.

Your opinion is your opinion, but it seems rather anti tomkins.

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My dictionary says a SCUMBAG is a contemptible or objectionable person.

    Does this resonate with you Saints 4 Life Fan.

    Perhaps you cannot see the irony!!!

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Tomkins is the first British superstar since Hanley IMO. Except for Lee Penny of course.

Lee Penny was a solid, dependable fullback for more than a decade. He never passed in that time, but he didn't drop many bombs. Not sure why he's been namechecked here.

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Lee Penny was a solid, dependable fullback for more than a decade. He never passed in that time, but he didn't drop many bombs. Not sure why he's been namechecked here.

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Tackling....Danny Brough just ran round him last week. A one on one tackle against hardly the fastest, most elusive player in the SL.

Johnny Wilkinson is on £600K in France.

Where are the big money offers from all these clubs around the world all desperate to have him in the team? Did all the NRL teams bid for him? apologies for 4 Nations slip, it was the year before he was anonymous. I was at Elland Road hoping he'd do something but he didnt. Darren Lockyer in comparison was superb.

I am not anti-Tomkins - genius with the ball if you read it -but when I have watched him, he regularly misses tackles and looks uncertain under high balls.

But let's wait and see how he gets on in the NRL in a mid-table team and how he does the RLWC. If he is fantastic and I hope he is, then I will change my opinion.

 

To be fair he did have the small matter of appearing for the Barbarians at Twickenham to get ready for the week after I think it was. I thought it pretty clear he was not focused in the final at Elland Road in 2011.

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Where are the big money offers from all these clubs around the world all desperate to have him in the team? Did all the NRL teams bid for him?

Maybe they already have full backs or don't have the space in the cap.

Believe me, if a club needed a full back, had the money, and Tomkins was available, they'd be mad not to sign him.

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Looking forward to seeing him out here next season. Just wish he's have signed for the Sharks

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Maybe they already have full backs or don't have the space in the cap.

Believe me, if a club needed a full back, had the money, and Tomkins was available, they'd be mad not to sign him.

 

Spot on and any NRL club and coaches would no doubt be looking to further develop him given he is still relatively young and would take account of his strengths and weaknesses and being aware his current capabilities and potential.

 

I not saying one way or the other but I would have thought that NRL team and coaches given they believe their higher levels feel they can achieve more with the players than they perceive SL can.

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