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In the recent post “Wally Lewis” how good was he, there were certain reflections from some posters who stated that he was the best they had ever seen. This got me thinking about my own table of The Best, obviously this is my opinion and observations of watching this great game since the age of 8 in 1961, To single out a single player is for mine an objectionable point, I do not necessarily think that a prop can be compared to a winger and any other combination per-se, they all have their own qualities that is why I have given selections for each position

 

My criteria is that I would have had to have seen the player in at least 6 games either live or in latter years on TV

 

Full Backs.

Billy Slater, Gary Connolly, Graeme Eadie

 

Wings,

Martin Offiah, Des Drummond Kerry Bousted, Eric Grothe, Andrew Ettingshousen 

 

Centre’s

Gene Miles, Greg Inglis, Jamie Lyon, Dean Bell. Kevin Iro, Keith Senior, Neil Fox

 

Stand Off

Gary Scholfield, John Woods, Roger Millward, Darren Lockyer, Wally Lewis

 

Scrum half

Gary Freeman, Andrew Johns, Andy Gregory, Alex Murphy, Sean Long

 

Props

Quentin Pongia, Steve Price, Kevin Ward, Jamie Peacock, Kevin Tamati, Cliff Watson, Arthur Beetson, Shane Webke,

 

Hookers

Wayne Wallace, Mike Stephenson, Cameron Smith,

 

Second Rows

Stephen Kierney, Hugh McGahan, Gary Prohm, Doug Laughton, Brian Lockwood

 

Loose forward

Malcolm Reilly, Ray Price, Wayne Pearce, Ellery Hanley, Harry Pinner

 

Trying to make my team from this list I am finding very difficult, because for example I would like to play both Hanley and Reilly, I know it would be possible to play Hanley at stand off but then again I have (in my opinion) better stand off’s.

 

Well here goes

  1. Billy Slater
  2. Martin Offiah
  3. Gene Miles
  4. Neil Fox
  5. Des Drummond
  6. Gary Scholefield
  7. Andrew Johns
  8. Steve Price
  9. Mike Stephenson
  10. Quentin Pongia
  11. Hugh McGahan
  12. Doug Lawton
  13. Malcom Reilly

 

Subs (modern day criteria)

  1. Andy Gregory
  2. Ellery Hanley
  3. Jamie Peacock
  4. Gary Prohm

Forgive me if I have left out your personal favourite, as I said this is my selection from whom I could remember, perhaps other teams and selections may jog my memory, have a go, it's not has easy as you would think.  

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1 ben barba

2 eric grothe

3 jonathan davies

4 gene miles

5 martin offiah

6 Darren lockyer

7 alan langer

8 kevin ward

9 keiron Cunningham

10 petro civecina

11 mark geyer

12 mark laurie

13 Ellery hanley

 

14 ettinhausen

15 steve ella

16 sam Tomkins

17 Jamie peacock (based on prop rotation)

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My own but pretty sure there's a few players I've missed.

1/ Lockyer

2/ Grothe

3/ Inglis

4/ Meninga

5/ Offiah

6/ Kenny

7/ Thurston

8/ Ward

9/ Cunningham

10/ Wiki

11/ Menzies

12/ Peacock

13/ Hanley

14/ Sorenson

15/ Morley

16/ Webke

17/ Lydon

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It's a great topic and almost impossible to get right. I struggle defining "best" from "favourite" - but here goes....

1. Billy Slater

2. Eric Grothe

3. Greg Inglis

4. Mal Meninga

5. Des Drummond

6. Wally Lewis

7. Andy Gregory

8. Kevin Ward

9. Kieron Cunningham

10. Petrol Civonoceiva

11. Phil Lowe

12. Jamie Peacick

13. Mal Reilly

14. Andrew Johns

15. Bill Ashurst

16. Kurt Sorensen

17. Shaun Webcke

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Best I've seen play (selections will be much more limited than most others)

1. Billy Slater

2. Martin Offiah

3. Mal Meninga

4. Keith Senior

5. Greg Inglis (haven't seen any wingers anywhere near as good as Offiah, Inglis did play there so deserves to be in the side.

6. Darren Lockyer

7. Wally Lewis

8. Jamie Peacock

9. Cameron Smith

10. Petero Civenoceva

11. Steve Menzies

12. Andy Farrell

13. Ellery Hanley

14. Keiron Cunningham

15. Barrie Mcdermott

16. Paul Gallen

17. Sam Burgess

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Darren Lockyer

Jason Robinson

Mal Meninga

Dean Bell

Martin Offiah

Shaun Edwards / Wally Lewis / Brett Kenny

Andrew Johns

Jamie Peacock

Benny Elias / can't remember his name but a super star hooker for widnes late 80's

Steve Roach

Steve Menzies

Mark Roberts

Ellery Hanley / Mike Gregory

My personnel favourite 13

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Darren Lockyer

Jason Robinson

Mal Meninga

Dean Bell

Martin Offiah

Shaun Edwards / Wally Lewis / Brett Kenny

Andrew Johns

Jamie Peacock

Benny Elias / can't remember his name but a super star hooker for widnes late 80's

Steve Roach

Steve Menzies

Mark Roberts

Ellery Hanley / Mike Gregory

My personnel favourite 13

Elwell?

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Elwell?

The next one, Steve ??? Macenzies ??

Where's VW when I need him??

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Slater

Offiah

Meninga

Lyon

Robinson

Fitler

Johns

Webcke

Smith

Morley

Menzies

Andy farrell

Hanley

Subs

Peacock

Sam burgess

Cunnigham

Sculthorpe

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Best fullback - Graham Eadie.

Best winger - Martin Offiah

Best centre - Mal Meninga

Best out half - Wally Lewis

Best scrum half- Alex Murphy

Best prop- Arthur Beetson

Best hooker- Stevo

Best second row - Phil Lowe

Best loose forward - Ellery Hanley

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Whilst running through posters selections, the one name that is included in all teams with the exception of one is Martin Offiah, it strikes me that has years go by we tend to see things a little different from at the actual time of events. I thought that I would get pilloried for including him in my selection has it seemed that more people would look at his short comings other than what he would do best, score tries, but I always maintained that in defence there where fewer tries scored on his wing than most due to his ability to turn and catch, and I consider had he still been on the field at Old Trafford in 1990 when Ricky Stuart made that break in the dying moments which culminated in Mal Meninga's try we would have won the ashes, it was a length of the field try - tryline to tryline - and try as he may Carl Gibson did not have the pace to prevent the score, I think Offiah would have prevented it.  

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1. Slater

2. Offiah

3. Davies

4. Lyon

5. Inglis

6. Lockyer

7. Johns

8. Webcke

9. Smith

10. Graham

11. SBW

12. Menzies

13. Sculthorpe

 

14. Tomkins

15. Cunningham

16. Gallen

17. Civoneceva

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1.Slater

2.Groth

3.Meninga

4.Inglis

5 Offiah

6 Lockyer

7 Cronk (one of the best kicking games I have seen in my opinion and is underrated)

8 Webcke

9 Cam Smith

10 Civencieva (Sp?)

11 Menzies

12 Tallis

13 Hanley

 

14 Joe Kilroy

15 Geoff "Wildman" Robinson

16 SBW

17 Brad Fittler

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1.  Lockyer

2.  Grothe 

3.  Meninga

4.  Inglis

5.  Robinson

6.  Lewis

7.  Johns

8.  Webke

9.  Cam Smith

10. Lazarus

11. SBW

12. Menzies

13. Hanley

 

14. Kevin Ward

15. Arthur Beetson

16. Ian Roberts

17. Brett Kenny

 

Shadow. Peter Kelly

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1. Billy Slater
2. Eric Grothe
3. Greg Inglis
4. Mal Meninga
5. Martin Offiah
6. Wally Lewis
7. Andy Gregory

8. Steve Roach

9. Cameron Smith

10. Petero Civenoceva

11. Emosi Koloto

12. Wayne Pearce

13. Ellery Hanley


 

Subs 

  1. Jamie Lyons
  2. Andrew Johns
  3. Jamie Peacock
  4. Shane Webke

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Slater

Grothe

Menninga

Allan (Trevor)

Boston

Bolton

Thurston

Webcke

C Smith

McTighe

Pawsey

S Burgess

Karalius

Peacock

Watson

L Lewis

Murphy

Some of those will not be recalled by many butwith some thought I believe I have managed to select a side I would love to have witnessed from those whom I personally consider to be the best I have seen since the mid forties when I was first taken to a League game.

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I've always maintained that Hanley was the best player I've ever seen, but I think that's now no longer the case.  Some players come along once or twice in a lifetime that seem to transcend the game and players around them, just like Hanley.  But for me I think that Hanley has been surpassed.

 

I reckon Greg Inglis is the best player I've ever seen.

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I've always maintained that Hanley was the best player I've ever seen, but I think that's now no longer the case. Some players come along once or twice in a lifetime that seem to transcend the game and players around them, just like Hanley. But for me I think that Hanley has been surpassed.

I reckon Greg Inglis is the best player I've ever seen.

I know what your saying and I wouldn't be surprised if Inglis does surpass him. For me though as it stands I still think Hanley shades it as the best I've seen. Mainly down to the way he went from a great athlete without much game sense playing wing/centre to a stand off and eventually onto a loose forward with all the craft and knowledge of someone who'd been playing it from a young age.

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Whilst running through posters selections, the one name that is included in all teams with the exception of one is Martin Offiah, it strikes me that has years go by we tend to see things a little different from at the actual time of events. I thought that I would get pilloried for including him in my selection has it seemed that more people would look at his short comings other than what he would do best, score tries, but I always maintained that in defence there where fewer tries scored on his wing than most due to his ability to turn and catch, and I consider had he still been on the field at Old Trafford in 1990 when Ricky Stuart made that break in the dying moments which culminated in Mal Meninga's try we would have won the ashes, it was a length of the field try - tryline to tryline - and try as he may Carl Gibson did not have the pace to prevent the score, I think Offiah would have prevented it.  

 

Agree about Offiah, an indisputable great of the game.

 

But at OT in 1990 Carl Gibson would've caught Meninga easily if Ricky Stuart hadn't held him back.

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