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Mister C

Is England a country?

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I appreciate (or think I do) that our country is the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland

 

Wikipedia states that England is a country within a country

 

Can anyone clear this up for me or does that pretty much sum it up?

 

Just to resolve a discussion with friends thank you!

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Think of your clothes. Great Britain is the coat, and once you peel back the layers England is your underpants.

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The British government defines England (and Scotland etc) as "constituent countries" i.e. they are countries that make up another country (the UK). It has most of the features e.g. flag, capital, national sports teams etc that a country would be expected to have, it is just not an independent country.

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so in the eyes of the United Nations it is not a country but in the eyes of the United Kingdom it is

 

i think i read on here that Catalonia has more right to be a country than England?

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Think of your clothes. Great Britain is the coat, and once you peel back the layers England is your underpants.

..and Cornwall is your posing pouch. ;)

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..and Cornwall is your posing pouch. ;)

 

mine is more like rutland :(  

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mine is more like rutland :(  

 

Yes, but presumably that means your good at rutting.

;)

 

From Wikipedia:

 

In 2006 it was reported that Rutland has the highest fertility rate of any English county – the average woman having 2.81 children, compared with only 1.67 in Tyne and Wear.[14]

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Think of your clothes. Great Britain is the coat, and once you peel back the layers England is your underpants.

 

 

Keep peeling and you get to: 

 - London ... the scrotum

                 and

 - Lancashire ... the armpit.

;) ;) :tongue:

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I think it's easier to think of the United Kingdom in rugby league terms:

 

- The top 3 leagues are England with London being most of the M62 Super League clubs, some rich bits, some rough bits and some bits that hang around the outskirts.  The other two leagues being about right in terms of location and money distribution compared to the UK.

- BARLA is Scotland, it wants nothing to with the professional leagues, would quite happily split away but a lot of members recognise that it's really not going to be that relevant if it did so.

- The winter/summer rugby split along with the RLC and NCL is Northern Ireland.  Tread lightly in here with opinions and definitely make sure of the colours of the pub you're in before having the wrong opinion.

- The French clubs are Wales, we know there's something big there (Catalans/Cardiff) and have heard persistent rumours of other big places (Toulouse/Swansea).  Someone mentioned that they have other leagues of their own but no-one really believes them.

 

It's all rugby league/United Kingdom but damn it's a weird family.

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I think it's easier to think of the United Kingdom in rugby league terms:

 

- The top 3 leagues are England with London being most of the M62 Super League clubs, some rich bits, some rough bits and some bits that hang around the outskirts.  The other two leagues being about right in terms of location and money distribution compared to the UK.

- BARLA is Scotland, it wants nothing to with the professional leagues, would quite happily split away but a lot of members recognise that it's really not going to be that relevant if it did so.

- The winter/summer rugby split along with the RLC and NCL is Northern Ireland.  Tread lightly in here with opinions and definitely make sure of the colours of the pub you're in before having the wrong opinion.

- The French clubs are Wales, we know there's something big there (Catalans/Cardiff) and have heard persistent rumours of other big places (Toulouse/Swansea).  Someone mentioned that they have other leagues of their own but no-one really believes them.

 

It's all rugby league/United Kingdom but damn it's a weird family.

This still doesn't explain who Rangi Chase can play for.

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and  Yorkshire the foreskin?

I'll try enjoy my packet of Hula Hoops for lunch.

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I'll try enjoy my packet of Hula Hoops for lunch.

 

not cheese then?  :O  :bad:  :bad:  :bad:

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Keep peeling and you get to: 

 - London ... the scrotum

                 and

 - Lancashire ... the armpit.

;) ;) :tongue:

 

And Wales the back-side   :tongue:

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I'm genuinely concerned if JohnM has foreskin by his armpit.

 

 

Like many Lancastrians, he doesn't know his r's from his elbow.

 

;)

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And Wales the back-side   :tongue:

 

 

 

 

Yes but we are the Jennifer Lopez of backsides.

 

;):tongue:

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so in the eyes of the United Nations it is not a country but in the eyes of the United Kingdom it is

The UN recognises independent states with the apparatus of government. Country does not necessarily mean "independent state". A country could be part of a federation like the EU or a union like the UK and still be a country.

 

i think i read on here that Catalonia has more right to be a country than England?

No, because even the Spanish government doesn't consider it so.

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No, because even the Spanish government doesn't consider it so.

 

They call it a 'nationality' apparently.

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I'm genuinely concerned if JohnM has foreskin by his armpit.

that's about the size of it...... :tongue:

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that's about the size of it...... :tongue:

You wouldn't leave the house...

 

;)

 

(Who says these threads descend into farce?!)

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When I was at school, yes, that long ago, we were taught that England and Scotland were countries, Wales was a Principality and Northern Ireland was a province. 

However, all together they from the nation of Britain. 

That is why in years gone by, when asked for your nationality, everyone said British.  I think its only a recent thing where people have been describing their nationality as English, Scottish, Welsh and Northern Irish.

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I always describe myself at British.  But since Scotland and Wales became devolved we've had our Englishness thrust upon us.  If the Scots vote for independence then we'll have to be English. Personally if they do I might ask if they can draw the new border at Bawtry so we can be part of Scotland!

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