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I thought we could have a dedicated topic for this subject leading up to the World Cup. I will start with this http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/general/rugby-league/the-last-word-oh-come-on-england-all-of-it-get-behind-2013-rugby-league-world-cup-8860091.html the author tells me it's on the back page of the paper. I have told her to spread the word to her colleagues in the press.

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Seemed to be moaning and putting us down against other sports for the most part. More people do gymnastics, the ruwc twitter account has 100k+ more followers etc.

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Seemed to be moaning and putting us down against other sports for the most part. More people do gymnastics, the ruwc twitter account has 100k+ more followers etc.

She is telling it just as it is KC, if you are not aware of the deficiencies you cannot make improvements.

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What a strange article, a mix of 'show your support for the game' alongside putting it down as a minor sport. Does this journalist support Rugby League...... NO.

 

One of his superiors probably told him to cover this story as no one else wanted it.

 

To sum up this article has gained no postitive coverage for the sport and the world cup, shame!

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What a strange article, a mix of 'show your support for the game' alongside putting it down as a minor sport. Does this journalist support Rugby League...... NO.

 

One of his superiors probably told him to cover this story as no one else wanted it.

 

To sum up this article has gained no postitive coverage for the sport and the world cup, shame!

Well it has because it is saying in 3 weeks time a major sports event is happening which deserves better.It is raising awareness in people who did not even know it exisited or even was happening.

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She ends thus, "It is our civic duty as sports fans – and yes, as journalists in a southern-biased media – to help ensure its success for the greater glory of our “golden decade of sport”. 

 

Is she wrong?  

 

http://www.sportsjournalists.co.uk/journalism-news/oconnor-one-of-three-staff-to-leave-times-sport/

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Presumably this is the lady in question.

 

http://www.sportsjournalists.co.uk/journalism-news/oconnor-one-of-three-staff-to-leave-times-sport/

 

The article is completely muddled.  Apparently she'd not heard about it until she heard about it on radio 5 Live yet on the related links to her article Ian Laybourn wrote a piece in 2011 when the initial plans were outlined.  Pretty poor research on her part in the era of the internet.  Let's not forget it is her job to keep track of these things as she proudly announces.  To me that comes across as a back handed way of saying that if she's missed it it is not her fault but the fault of those organising it because she's that good at her job that even a speck would show up on her radar.  So why was she made redundant with no position to go to lined up?

 

Accuracy on numbers is not great either.  The Millennium Stadium's website shows the official capacity as 74,500.  I'm not sure where we get 80,000.

 

I'd also love to meet one or two of these 49,100 adults that take part in gymnastics once a week.  I've never met anyone who does gymnastics as an adult.  I'm sure there are some who continue into adulthood but it would not surprise me if the figure quoted includes juniors.  Bowls, well are we really comparing like with like? I'd be interested to know how many people bowl between the age of 40 and well pick any number 75 .... 80.....Let's then compare that with those still playing RL in that age group.  The point being it is ridiculous to compare something like bowls which has a wide age range to recruit from with RL which has a narrower age range because of its very nature.  

 

Why do we need to know that Sport England cut the funding?  Were we the only sport to suffer such a fate?  How is relevant to trying to encourage people to go to this World Cup?  The whole narrative about declining numbers and cutting funding sends the message that we are declining sport.  Hardly an enticing preamble rallying the sports lovers in the nation to jump on board and buy tickets!

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What a strange article, a mix of 'show your support for the game' alongside putting it down as a minor sport. Does this journalist support Rugby League...... NO.

 

One of his superiors probably told him to cover this story as no one else wanted it.

 

To sum up this article has gained no postitive coverage for the sport and the world cup, shame!

There is no negativity in this report at all, it does exactly what it says on the tin, it tells it has it is, and it will no doubt make people aware of the fact that that there is a RLWC going on for those who have no interest in following the sport in media.

 

As an example despite the fact that I am some 11 miles west of Manchester, 23 from Liverpool, 9 from Bolton and 6 from Wigan I have not a clue who those towns football teams will be playing this,next or any other week, the reason, I am not remotely interested in football, I find it the most obnoxious, yawn creating, insomniac cure of a sport, I don't read, don't listen or don't watch anything to do with it, but I some times come across it in exclusive articles such as this.

 

Ho and by the way the reporter is a women.  

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Presumably this is the lady in question.

 

http://www.sportsjournalists.co.uk/journalism-news/oconnor-one-of-three-staff-to-leave-times-sport/

 

The article is completely muddled.  Apparently she'd not heard about it until she heard about it on radio 5 Live yet on the related links to her article Ian Laybourn wrote a piece in 2011 when the initial plans were outlined.  Pretty poor research on her part in the era of the internet.  Let's not forget it is her job to keep track of these things as she proudly announces.  To me that comes across as a back handed way of saying that if she's missed it it is not her fault but the fault of those organising it because she's that good at her job that even a speck would show up on her radar.  So why was she made redundant with no position to go to lined up?

 

Accuracy on numbers is not great either.  The Millennium Stadium's website shows the official capacity as 74,500.  I'm not sure where we get 80,000.

 

I'd also love to meet one or two of these 49,100 adults that take part in gymnastics once a week.  I've never met anyone who does gymnastics as an adult.  I'm sure there are some who continue into adulthood but it would not surprise me if the figure quoted includes juniors.  Bowls, well are we really comparing like with like? I'd be interested to know how many people bowl between the age of 40 and well pick any number 75 .... 80.....Let's then compare that with those still playing RL in that age group.  The point being it is ridiculous to compare something like bowls which has a wide age range to recruit from with RL which has a narrower age range because of its very nature.  

 

Why do we need to know that Sport England cut the funding?  Were we the only sport to suffer such a fate?  How is relevant to trying to encourage people to go to this World Cup?  The whole narrative about declining numbers and cutting funding sends the message that we are declining sport.  Hardly an enticing preamble rallying the sports lovers in the nation to jump on board and buy tickets!

 

 A true RL SNAFU post. I though there was too much positivity around but you have restored the balance.  Have you been following her on Twitter?  Try it. You could even join and and  put your comments directly to her. 

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 A true RL SNAFU post. I though there was too much positivity around but you have restored the balance.  Have you been following her on Twitter?  Try it. You could even join and and  put your comments directly to her. 

sorry I may be thick but SNAFU ?

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I don't think it was unduly negative. Not everything in the game is great, but it is a great game, and the point of the article was that people should get out and watch it.

Not her job as a general journalist to gloss over some of our negative points.

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sorry I may be thick but SNAFU ?

 

mea culpa. Its an Americanism. Situation normal: all f####d up.

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I think it's a very good and informative article. She only states facts, which should be of a concern to organisers and the RFL. She doesn't revel in our shortcomings and encourages readers to attend the tournament. Moreover, articles like this increase awareness of the tournament. It would be nice to have all positives, but the fact is, not all is positive.

 

The article is balanced with an undercurrent of encouraging, rather than discouraging, success of the tournament.

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Got the preview mag, well worth the four quid, very good quality and some nice articles just needs better distribution

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Got the preview mag, well worth the four quid, very good quality and some nice articles just needs better distribution

Currently on sale at WHSmith in London Kings Cross, despite someone's best efforts to hide it...

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Got the preview mag, well worth the four quid, very good quality and some nice articles just needs better distribution

On sale in WH Smith in St Helens, at the back with all the other rugby league papers/magazines, etc.  I bought a copy today and it is really good value, very well presented with some interesting articles in it as well as analysis of all the teams involved.  I'd recommend buying it.

 

I'm not sure anyone could get any wider distribution really than WH Smith.  The shop is pretty much everywhere.  The problem  is whether the staff at each outlet bother to display the magazine.  There is only so much that can be done by the rugby league people.

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Nothing too much wrong with the article really. She clearly is no expert on the game but I don't think there is any malice, more naive confusion that it hasn't sold out a year ago. Little does she know...

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According to journalist Nigel Wiskar, the Mail on Sunday is claiming that the world cup will be a 'damp squib' and that there have been 'little more than a third of seats sold and just 280,000 tickets shifted'. 

 

The world cup crew need to counter some of these articles IMO.

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According to journalist Nigel Wiskar, the Mail on Sunday is claiming that the world cup will be a 'damp squib' and that there have been 'little more than a third of seats sold and just 280,000 tickets shifted'. 

 

The world cup crew need to counter some of these articles IMO.

Well no surprise there then, the Mail along with the Times is anti everthing to do with RL, you can bet if the tournament had been sold out now there would be no mention of it at all.  

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Just side stepping the main topic here, but still on the same slant re the selection criteria of the "Home Nations". Though many do not agree with me I always considered the abolishing of the Great Britain team as an unnecessary step. In fact the need to re-introduce GB v Aus/NZ test series/tours is needed for both financial and media recognition especially here and if not in the southern hemisphere . For tournaments such as the up coming WC and the European Nations Cup the sides could split into their Home Nations teams as was always the case with England and Wales, now we have Scotland and Ireland teams that can only bode well for international introduction to some of the "fringe" players who could may well be overlooked otherwise. 

 

Some people say who could GB pick who is good enough from other than England but while it is so topical, in last nights game both Dudson and Flower where immense for Wigan and clearly outplayed their opposite's, and the future quality of personnel is unknown. I know times have changed and we are not getting anywhere near the numbers of high profile converts from South Wales that we once enjoyed, and the question is would we as a national team have been as successful in the past if we were only allowed to have English representatives ( R.Chase excluded) and not the Gt Britian selection process we once had.

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Good post and good article, she tells it how it is, the promotion for this World Cup has been poor in many areas. As I've mentioned in a post, the BBC haven't started any TV promotion yet less than 3 weeks before it begins. 

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