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Yakstorm    460

Really interesting those stats. Shows how much of it is down to presentation. The worst World Cup in 2000 was only 2k less that the best World Cup in 1995. The last World Cup, regarded as a massive improvement on 2000 was only 30k more than 2000!

There can be no argument that this World Cup has been the best organised and planned of any of the world cups. There is a real sense of occasion about this World Cup, so not only should the crowd record be broken, but the whole event should feel so much more special.

 

It's worth noting the 1995 World Cup only had 15 games versus 2000 which had 31, so whilst it drew a smaller aggregate, it had a higher per average per game....  That said 95 worked so well because it over achieved in many's eyes.  No one was expecting a big crowd for the opening clash at Wembley, but over 40,000 turned up.  England then drew 26,000 against Fiji and 14,000 against South Africa which meant any highlights looked great.

 

Compare this to 2000, a lot of promise of a big crowd at Twickenham yet only 33,000 there.  Throw in then 5,700 for England v Russia and 10,000 for England v Fiji, the tournament didn't really redeem itself in terms of attendances until the Final, which was too late.

 

The RWLC's goal, though, was to sell 500,000.  If the 280,000 is accurate - and we don't actually know that, it's just a figure quoted in the press - then we are a long way from the tournament's target figure. 

 

We might still be a distance from the target, but we are on track for record World Cup attendances which is worth being positive about.  I sincerely hope we make the target, or better yet exceed it, but if we get to the end of the tournament, and we end up with 350K plus, and the crowds at Cardiff, London, Manchester, and the other England games are great, then I won't be complaining.

 

The vast majority of people who will interact with our tournament will be with those games, either by attending, reading about or watching on BBC.  So lets hope they are all successes and lets hope for a strong England performance.  The media won't care about who plays for Scotland if England does well in the World Cup.

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Dave T    5,097

one thing to bear in mind is that games like the quarters will probably be selling poorly as they are quite difficult to market. When they come around though we should sell thousands during the tournament.

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Johnoco    3,325

There are plenty of sports that would be over the moon to have sold 280000 tickets. So it isn't as many as other sports -so bleeding what? It's a blinking good effort so far.

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Futtocks    5,859

There are plenty of sports that would be over the moon to have sold 280000 tickets. So it isn't as many as other sports -so bleeding what? It's a blinking good effort so far.

And now, with the SL season finished, people's attention can now be directed towards the RWC and we will see what constitutes the 'big push'. Anyone wailing and gnashing their teeth at this point has definitely jumped the gun.

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one thing to bear in mind is that games like the quarters will probably be selling poorly as they are quite difficult to market. When they come around though we should sell thousands during the tournament.

This is borne out by the fact that it looks like 1542 TERRACE tickets have been sold so far for the New Zealand v Samoa group match at Warrington, whereas only 583 tickets have been sold for the quarter-final at the same venue. I don't think anyone is suggesting that we won't get several thousand more than that on the day.

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EastLondonMike    572

Would like to see RLWC13 partner with a newspaper or magazine to produce and distribute some short highlights DVDs, the Mirror might be an ideal newspaper to do this with. While it might be a rag of a newspaper, it has been quite favourable for RL in recent times. DVDs aren't expensive to produce these days, and a DVD giveaway of highlights from previous World cups in one of the editions would be great exposure for the tournament.

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Leeds17    4

Let's not forget sales on the day of the game.

 

I've booked all the tickets i've wanted for games outside the city I live in (Leeds).

 

Regarding the 2 games at Headingley I will be paying on the gate (unless I hear news of 'selling out' being spoken) because it's 10 mins down the road.

 

Anyone else doing this or am I on my own with this one lol!

 

All I'm getting at is pay on the day supporters will increase attendances quite high so if 280,000 is the correct figure quoted I don't think we have anything to worry about.

 

Roll on the 26th!!!

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Leeds17    4

This is borne out by the fact that it looks like 1542 TERRACE tickets have been sold so far for the New Zealand v Samoa group match at Warrington, whereas only 583 tickets have been sold for the quarter-final at the same venue. I don't think anyone is suggesting that we won't get several thousand more than that on the day.

 

Exactly!!!

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Dave T    5,097

This is borne out by the fact that it looks like 1542 TERRACE tickets have been sold so far for the New Zealand v Samoa group match at Warrington, whereas only 583 tickets have been sold for the quarter-final at the same venue. I don't think anyone is suggesting that we won't get several thousand more than that on the day.

Yup.

 

If we have sold 280k then I think that is a brilliant amount so far.

 

This compares with overall sales for other tournaments, and this is still with three weeks to go!

 

Now the SL season is over I expect us to see an uplift, especially as Wigan, Wire, Leeds, Hudds and Saints fans have all had other games to pay for in recent weeks.

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ShotgunGold    36

Previous World Cup Crowds:

1992 - 300,059

2008 - 293,965

1995 - 265,609

2000 - 263,921

1968 - 220,683

1988 - 218,246

1957 - 214,918

1975 - 204,476

1954 - 138,329

1960 - 110,200

1977 - 109,688

1975 - 68,710

1972 - 62,456

 

So if it is true we are at 280,000, then this is already the third most attended World Cup ever! I see only positives in that... it indicates to me we are on track for 300,000+

 

I think overall is not the way to look at things, I think average is a much better indication.

 

1957 - 214,918 -  35,820 (six matches)

1968 - 220,683 – 31,526 (seven matches)

1954 - 138,329 – 19,761 (six matches)

1960 - 110,200 – 18,367 (six matches)

1995 - 265,609 – 17,707 (15 matches)

2008 - 293,965 – 16,331 (18 matches)

1977 - 109,688 – 15,670 (seven matches)

1992 - 300,059 – 14,289 (three years, 21 matches)

1988 - 218,246 – 12,125 (three years, 18 matches)

1970 - 68,710 – 9,816 (seven matches)

1975 - 204,476 – 9,737 (21 matches)

1972 - 62,456 – 8,922 (seven matches)

2000 - 263,921 – 8,514 (31 matches)

 

There will be 28 matches this year, a whole 10 more than five years ago.

 

I think an excellent, but perfectly achievable World Cup would be:

 

Average tournament crowd of 20,000+

A sell-out for the Final

Lowest crowd of 5,000 (perhaps not including Limerick)

No teams to have a points difference of more than +100, or less than -100 in the group stages.

 

That should be the RFL's definition of a perfect World Cup.

 

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To give an example, you could have:

 

Australia v England, Cardiff - 50,000

Fiji v Ireland, Rochdale - 5,000

England v Ireland, Huddersfield - 15,000

Australia v Fiji, St Helens - 8,000

England v Fiji, Hull - 15,000

Australia v Ireland, Limerick - 3,000

 

PNG v France, Hull - 7,000

NZ v Samoa, Warrington - 7,000

NZ v France, Avignon - 10,000

PNG v Samoa, Hull - 6,000

NZ v PNG, Leeds - 6,000

France v Samoa, Perpignon - 9,000

 

Tonga v Scotland, Workington - 5,000

Scotland v Italy, Workington - 5,000

Tonga v Italy, Halifax - 5,000

 

US v Cook Islands, Bristol - 5,000

Wales v US, Wrexham - 5,000

Wales v Cook Islands, Neath - 5,000

 

Wales v Italy, Cardiff - 50,000

Tonga v Cook, Leigh - 5,000

Scotland v US, Salford - 5,000

 

QF Leeds - 12,000

QF Wrexham - 8,000

QF Wigan - 12,000

QF Warrington - 12,000

 

SF London - 60,000

SF London - 60,000

 

Final Manchester - 75,000

 

Total for matches - 470,000

Total in reality (Cardiff/London double) - 360,000

 

Average for tournament would though be: 16,786

 

That would be as good as 2008/1995 but with many more matches, so still an improvement.

 

But hey I do think there could be room for improvement from say the QF's and a lot will really depend on the matches in the heartlands - Hull, Warrington, St Helens, Salford. Or Wembley could get as much as it normally does for GF's perhaps?

 

The success of the WC will hinge on the heartlands - will the supporters of Hull FC and KR go and see PNG play? Will the Rhinos supporters watch NZ, or the Saints fans go watch Australia? How many supporters of all of the West Riding clubs will travel to Halifax to watch Tonga? I've said it before - it will all depend on whether the current RL supporters will bother to support this tournament.

 

I still think a 20,000 average, with no matches (bar Limerick) under 5,000 should be a goal.

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Great article on the Fiji v Ireland match on the back page of the Telegraph today. It says 6,000 have already been sold.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/rugbyleague/10365237/World-Cup-romance-comes-to-Rochdale-with-a-dash-of-Fiji-offered-in-the-Pennines.html

Great article. Very positive and good to see a different journalist pass comment on the game. Makes you realise just how rich the heritage of our game is, something we need to be proud of.

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longboard    959

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/rugbyleague/10365237/World-Cup-romance-comes-to-Rochdale-with-a-dash-of-Fiji-offered-in-the-Pennines.html

Great article. Very positive and good to see a different journalist pass comment on the game. Makes you realise just how rich the heritage of our game is, something we need to be proud of.

 

I think Tanya Aldred has written pieces about RL  before. IIRC her husband is a RL fan and got her interested in the sport.

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Futtocks    5,859

Great article on the Fiji v Ireland match on the back page of the Telegraph today. It says 6,000 have already been sold.

Excellent article and photo.  :D 

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Great article on the Fiji v Ireland match on the back page of the Telegraph today. It says 6,000 have already been sold.

Alastair Campbell has tweeted to his 250,000 followers(!!!) about him seeing a copy of the Telegraph left on the train and it having a great article about Fiji, Rochdale & the World Cup.

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Dave T    5,097

This is a great article and shows the difference from previous world cups. The 6k pre-sales already means we will see a higher crowd than for the England game at St Helens in 2000.

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L Bow    44

Good to see some quality articles emerging regarding the world cup clearing demonstrating that it is not difficult to find lots of positive stories.

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