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Should Salford pull the plug on Hock?

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They would if they had any sense. He's a time bomb waiting to go off ...

 

 

.... to Odsal with any luck.

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.... to Odsal with any luck.

 

No chance of any damage?

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No chance of any damage?

 

 

We had a minor earthquake earlier this year.

 

The Council put the rates up.

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A cynical move to get him to Cov. Shame on you.

No, no, no we had a guy from Wakefield once that taught us that troublemakers aren't worth taking a chance on.

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They would if they had any sense. He's a time bomb waiting to go off.

 

 

waiting? 

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I think Mr Noble knew what he was getting when he signed him. I wouldn't have touched him with a barge pole. When I told our lass that he'd been kicked out of the England squad "Ha! What did I tell you? Nothing but trouble.", was the immediate reply.

Unfortunately you can just see a few frustrating years ahead of him, with probably some highs and extreme lows. I just hope that he, as an individual, manages to get through the other side, unscathed.

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I think Mr Noble knew what he was getting when he signed him. I wouldn't have touched him with a barge pole. When I told our lass that he'd been kicked out of the England squad "Ha! What did I tell you? Nothing but trouble.", was the immediate reply.

Unfortunately you can just see a few frustrating years ahead of him, with probably some highs and extreme lows. I just hope that he, as an individual, manages to get through the other side, unscathed.

It's when he gets to the other side that's the worry. He's acting like this in the relatively protected, controlled world of sport. How he'll deal with life after that makes me worry, not just for him but for those around him.

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I think Mr Noble knew what he was getting when he signed him.

 

I do wonder what will happen here - Nobby ususally has quite a low tolerance level for "characters", although I was reminded Nobby took charge of Hock at Wigan during his drugs ban, although wasn't around when Hock returned. I think the issue might be at Salford - as it seems to have been the case with England - is he a disruption to the whole squad? I guess we'll find out. As it stands, I can't say Paramatta will be particularly upset that they missed out on Hock playing for them next year.

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I don't think we should drop him, but with Hock, Gleeson, Smith, Chase, Johnson, we should consider dropping the Red Devils nickname and go for "Ocean's Thirteen" instead.

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Nobby played alongside Tony Fisher (I think), Alan Rathbone, Ellery Hanley, Henderson Gill and Len Casey. He understands a volatile player.

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Nobby's nest is the best place for him, I cant see anyone else in superleague being able to cope with Hock's mood swings. Having suffered depression I see Hock as being on a very slippery slope downwards, and I hope he hits rock bottom while he is still playing so he gets the help he needs because he will be pretty lonely when people stop wanting his talents.

 

Really really sad. Great player, when he can be ar$%d and one the Aussies would never like playing against.

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Nobby's nest is the best place for him, I cant see anyone else in superleague being able to cope with Hock's mood swings. Having suffered depression I see Hock as being on a very slippery slope downwards, and I hope he hits rock bottom while he is still playing so he gets the help he needs because he will be pretty lonely when people stop wanting his talents.

 

Really really sad. Great player, when he can be ar$%d and one the Aussies would never like playing against.

 

Yes. His playing talent has (to a large degree) been wasted.

 

Let's hope his life isn't. I hope that John Wilkin's mob are all over him at the moment.

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Yes. His playing talent has (to a large degree) been wasted.

 

Let's hope his life isn't. I hope that John Wilkin's mob are all over him at the moment.

I agree with that, he will need support and not just from Koukash who may pander to his asset, but from Wilkins lot and the RFL.

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Nobby played alongside Tony Fisher (I think), Alan Rathbone, Ellery Hanley, Henderson Gill and Len Casey. He understands a volatile player.

I don't think Len was volatile.

 

He was a dirty #### all the time.

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Yes. His playing talent has (to a large degree) been wasted.

 

Let's hope his life isn't. I hope that John Wilkin's mob are all over him at the moment.

Yes. As much as I don't like his actions, we should remember the Terry Newton tragedy as a reminder that players are just human like the rest of us.

 

I saw Bobbie Goulding pleading for people not to abuse him etc.

 

He has been punished, we should draw a line under it and move on, hopefully he will get any support he needs and get back to doing what he does well.

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I don't think Len was volatile.

 

He was a dirty #### all the time.

 

Fair enough, I'll replace him with Kelvin Skerret.

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Why would Salford drop him, he isn't our player just yet.

 

I hope Salford have a clause in his contract regarding conduct. 

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Gareth Hock gave an interview to BBC News tonight.

 

He said that he had admittedly: -

 - broken rules by going out drinking ... along with other members of the squad

 - subsequently overslept and missed a swimming session.

 

He beefed about:

 - being treated differently from the other half-dozen-or-so members of the drinks party

 - being dismissed by McNamara over the phone rather face-to-face.

 

Maybe the interview was adversely edited but, as far as I interpreted, he made no real effort to apologise to the team or the supporters for his behaviour. Maybe if he had,  he could be still be on board.

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I think Salford should drop Hock.

 

In fact, I think any player that has even a spark of character should be released from his club contract immediately. Then we can get on with the ultimately more important job of sanitising our sport to the point of boredom.

 

RL has always been a sport with characters, and they are, like it or not, what makes our game. How many of us would be watching RL if it wasn't for the likes of Les Boyd, Steve Roach, Paul Harrogan, Kelvin Skerrett? Even the magnificent Ellery Hanley was more than difficult to handle.

 

You need a big time coach to manage big time characters, and the one we have is a proven loser. Go figure.

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I think Salford should drop Hock.

In fact, I think any player that has even a spark of character should be released from his club contract immediately. Then we can get on with the ultimately more important job of sanitising our sport to the point of boredom.

RL has always been a sport with characters, and they are, like it or not, what makes our game. How many of us would be watching RL if it wasn't for the likes of Les Boyd, Steve Roach, Paul Harrogan, Kelvin Skerrett? Even the magnificent Ellery Hanley was more than difficult to handle.

You need a big time coach to manage big time characters, and the one we have is a proven loser. Go figure.

Hock and that lot in the same paragraph? Do me a favour.

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