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Muslim Youth Intimidation

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Yes I am for real.  A Pakistani flag does not signify a connection with Islam, granted the odds are stacked that way but it's not a given.  

Can not see hindu's or Sikh's having a Pakistani small flag in there front window ??? it's not like some white middle class student wearing a Bob Marley T-shirt is from Jamaica.

 

But what hurt's me more it's the Bob Marley/Castro supporting SWP types who think racism is only from white working class shaven head football fans ???

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But what hurt's me more it's the Bob Marley/Castro supporting SWP types who think racism is only from white working class shaven head football fans ???

I don't think anyone capable of independent thought actually thinks that.

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This suggests that thinking isn't your strong suit.

You are Mintball from RLFans.com forums and i claim my £5

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Yes I am for real.  A Pakistani flag does not signify a connection with Islam, granted the odds are stacked that way but it's not a given.  

So shall I get an Irish flag for my car and play Irish music but I am not Irish,

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So shall I get an Irish flag for my car and play Irish music but I am not Irish,

 

You can do that if you like. 

 

Answer me this; Is somebody with an Irish flag in their car a catholic?

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You can do that if you like.

Answer me this; Is somebody with an Irish flag in their car a catholic?

Probably but not absolutely definitely....probably about an 80% chance at a guess. Whereas somebody (in this country) flying a Pakistan flag is 99% likely to be a Muslim.

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Probably but not absolutely definitely....probably about an 80% chance at a guess. Whereas somebody (in this country) flying a Pakistan flag is 99% likely to be a Muslim.

Well one things for sure if the op was observant enough to see the flag then he'll have clocked the number plate: jobs a good un

I think larry is referring to the 1% you mention

I'm not sure what the religion of the perpetrators has to do with anything or their race

A racist thug is a racist thug. I wonder which section of the population has the most if them

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Well one things for sure if the op was observant enough to see the flag then he'll have clocked the number plate: jobs a good un

I think larry is referring to the 1% you mention

 

 

Yes and no.  I'm merely trying to educate the OP that nationality does not equal religion, and even then there is a high chance that if this occurred in the UK the nationality of the individuals concerned would be British (albeit with Pakistani roots).

 

As you say. Racist thugs are just that; racist thugs.  Just like religiously intolerant bigots are religiously intolerant bigots, and nationalist morons are nationalist morons.

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Yes and no.  I'm merely trying to educate the OP that nationality does not equal religion, and even then there is a high chance that if this occurred in the UK the nationality of the individuals concerned would be British (albeit with Pakistani roots).

 

As you say. Racist thugs are just that; racist thugs.  Just like religiously intolerant bigots are religiously intolerant bigots, and nationalist morons are nationalist morons.

Yep, it's nothing to do with them really disliking those not like them, it's just a convenient excuse for them being idiot thugs.

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Yes and no. I'm merely trying to educate the OP that nationality does not equal religion, and even then there is a high chance that if this occurred in the UK the nationality of the individuals concerned would be British (albeit with Pakistani roots).

As you say. Racist thugs are just that; racist thugs. Just like religiously intolerant bigots are religiously intolerant bigots, and nationalist morons are nationalist morons.

That's what I mean: it's wrong to jump to a conclusion that the op did

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A racist thug is a racist thug. I wonder which section of the population has the most if them

I don't think any section of the population has a monopoly on racism or bigotry, why do you ask? I have experienced racism and bigotry from many races. There is a pretty high percentage of racist Pakistanis in Bradford in my experience for instance, but I know that is still a minority. Every human race creed or colour has racists among them.

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I don't think any section of the population has a monopoly on racism or bigotry, why do you ask? I have experienced racism and bigotry from many races. There is a pretty high percentage of racist Pakistanis in Bradford in my experience for instance, but I know that is still a minority. Every human race creed or colour has racists among them.

So the incidence if racist violence, and abuse is spread evenly amongst the various racial cultural and national minorities and the white majority in this country

I didn't know that and thanks for telling me

I've said several times including on this thread that this kind of behaviour is repulsive and unacceptable no matter who

Is behaving like this

And that goes for the incident involving the op.

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So the incidence if racist violence, and abuse is spread evenly amongst the various racial cultural and national minorities and the white majority in this country

I didn't know that and thanks for telling me

I've said several times including on this thread that this kind of behaviour is repulsive and unacceptable no matter who

Is behaving like this

And that goes for the incident involving the op.

If you are implying there are numerically more white racists in this country, then you are probably correct. But pro rata it will be the same because racism is not a colour specific thing - no matter what apologists in the US claim when they excuse black racists.

 

Tell you what, let's leave it here for now but if it does happen to you (I hope it doesn't) then come back and you can tell me how you view it then. Because it is a pretty bad experience, regardless of whether other people do it.

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If you are implying there are numerically more white racists in this country, then you are probably correct. But pro rata it will be the same because racism is not a colour specific thing - no matter what apologists in the US claim when they excuse black racists.

Tell you what, let's leave it here for now but if it does happen to you (I hope it doesn't) then come back and you can tell me how you view it then. Because it is a pretty bad experience, regardless of whether other people do it.

How do you know it hasn't?

Being attacked by anybody is a bad experience

I had a good kicking from some NF lads when they were holding a meeting in Bradford mechanics institute in 72 but I'm not sure if that counts

Most people from whatever their ethnic or religious backgrounds just want to get on with their lives in peace: society owes it to its members that they are allowed to...no matter who

They are

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How do you know it hasn't?

Being attacked by anybody is a bad experience

I had a good kicking from some NF lads when they were holding a meeting in Bradford mechanics institute in 72 but I'm not sure if that counts

I have copped a beating once or twice for no real reason, that's the way it is sometimes. Being abused for your skin colour and told to 'eff off white b-word' (god this is ridiculous) is different. And I aren't just talking one offs either. Being then told 'it was just a bunch of yobs' is no comfort either because I also know what yobs are like - and this is different. 

 

We all know this won't get anywhere so lets just lock it now. 

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I have copped a beating once or twice for no real reason, that's the way it is sometimes. Being abused for your skin colour and told to 'eff off white b-word' (god this is ridiculous) is different. And I aren't just talking one offs either. Being then told 'it was just a bunch of yobs' is no comfort either because I also know what yobs are like - and this is different.

We all know this won't get anywhere so lets just lock it now.

Mate we don't disagree with each other

And I would have thought we could at least find common ground with my last paragraph

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To me the past 20 years or so a lot of Muslim youths (and not all as hopefully it's a minority) have been no different to the old Skinhead/Bonehead thug's you got from the late 60's/early 70's to late 70's/early 80's yet I wonder if any one has had a problem from Hindu's/Sikh's and Chinese gang's.

Another thing has changed a lot on campus as in the 1980's/90's it was your SWP types sticking up for the IRA/Republican's type's yet now it seems the same middle class types are more in favour of sticking up for Muslims even radical sort's and anti fascism should be targeted at all people/colour.The press will go on about Stephen Lawrence but you never see anything about Kriss Donald sadly.

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