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joe elliot

McNamara might have to leave the country

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He warned the media not to ask questions about Hock etc but they persisted. End of conference. Clearly taking a leaf out of Fergies book and good on him, too.

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Danny lockwoods tweets are far more embarrassing than anything Steve McNamara has done.

Also is it me or are the same people who said McNamara should have dealt with it in house now having a go at him for keeping the details in house?

McNamara has actually gone up in my estimation over the last week.

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Anecdote alert; My local shop owners who never pick up on the challenge cup, grant final etc promos mentioned the 'walk out'. Job done !

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What did he think they were going to ask him?

I'm sure the England PR team would have briefed him - that's their job, after all.

I guess he just got fed up of fielding questions about that when he wants to remain positive… what's wrong with that? It might annoy the press and it's not ideal, but he's tried to draw a line under it and they keep pushing (as they naturally will).

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just seen the footage on calendar, didn't have a clue what he was saying before I think caught "ok guys the coach is leaving"

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It looked like that there has been a couple of PR people telling him how react to stuff like this. It has taken the focus off the situation and now the media are talking about him waling out rather than the booze situation.

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It looked like that there has been a couple of PR people telling him how react to stuff like this. It has taken the focus off the situation and now the media are talking about him waling out rather than the booze situation.

He looked a bit grumpy, like he was actually wound up. To be fair, he did make it clear he wouldn't answer any more questions on the subject as it's been dealt with (and the England statement the other day said the same). He's perfectly within his rights not to talk about it.

Sadly, it does mean the knives have been sharpened, so if we get a flogging tomorrow he's going to be under serious pressure. I bet Tim Sheens is loving this, though to be fair to him he seems to think it will galvanise England and they'll have a point to prove. He could be right… here's hoping!

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Didn't seem that bad the press conference... Personally I thought "good on him" for sticking to his guns and doing as he said he would.   I personally dislike the job most journalist do and all their interested in is only provoking reaction to get a story.   Most don't give a damn about anyone or anything except to get a coup, a reaction in order to get an head line and get them as high up on news channels as possible.     As a professional they stink, all though no doubt journalists would say they are not all the same.  So yep you need to be able to handle the press, but Mcnamara isn't the only one to have such situations and one thing for sure Fergie wouldn't tolerate it... in fact he would ban the said journalist and news organisation from future press conferences as he has done a few times and they for sure soon adapt. Unfortunately for McNamara or any RL coach they haven't the aura for journalists not to try it on.  

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He looked a bit grumpy, like he was actually wound up. To be fair, he did make it clear he wouldn't answer any more questions on the subject as it's been dealt with (and the England statement the other day said the same). He's perfectly within his rights not to talk about it.

Sadly, it does mean the knives have been sharpened, so if we get a flogging tomorrow he's going to be under serious pressure. I bet Tim Sheens is loving this, though to be fair to him he seems to think it will galvanise England and they'll have a point to prove. He could be right… here's hoping!

 

It won't matter whichever way the result or performance goes... Mcnamara won't get any credit if it goes well as it will be the players but he will be the one to cop it if it goes wrong as it will only be him at fault.... those with an axe to ground have already decided about him already no matter what.  He should recognize he can't win and just ignore it.....

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I know where you are coming from but they are completely different scenarios. They earned respect from players before he even coached them. Ferguson through his sheer length of time at United and proving he knows how to make Manchester United win matches, Mourinho proving he can turn sides into title winning sides like did at Porto, Chelsea, Inter Milan and Madrid. These accolades earn respect off players. McNamara has not earned this yet.

He wants to do things his own way. But where has he showed his own way works. Before you can say your opinion is right you have to proven it has been in the past. McNamara just hasn't.

In sport you only earn the right to ignore everybody elses opinion once you prove your own is right. Nobody has any reason to believe McNamara is doing the right thing. We do not know McNamaras logic behind his decisions.

Why should we believe it is the right decision to not pick the two best half backs in SL. Why should we believe it is the right decision to drop arguably the best prop in the world or drop one of the most destructive back rowers in the world. Why should we believe he is right to leave 75% of the dream team out of the England squad.

All these decisions are very bold ones. They're are obviously going to annoy people as you cant please everyone. Credit to McNamara for doing it as you say at least he is doing it in his own way. But when Fergie sold Beckham United fans said calm down Fergie knows what he is doing and I believed them. If you said to me calm down McNamara knows what he is doing I just can't believe you even though I want to. He just doesn't have the credentials to back it up.

But how can you prove that your way is right without it being the end of his reign? He cannot be judged yet. In another 6 weeks we will have an idea whether the work and strategies he has been adopting over the last couple of years have worked.

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In sport you only earn the right to ignore everybody elses opinion once you prove your own is right.

 

That would be impossible. How can you test your own methods if you are not allowed to ignore others?

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Didn't seem that bad the press conference... Personally I thought "good on him" for sticking to his guns and doing as he said he would.   I personally dislike the job most journalist do and all their interested in is only provoking reaction to get a story.   Most don't give a damn about anyone or anything except to get a coup, a reaction in order to get an head line and get them as high up on news channels as possible.     As a professional they stink, all though no doubt journalists would say they are not all the same.  So yep you need to be able to handle the press, but Mcnamara isn't the only one to have such situations and one thing for sure Fergie wouldn't tolerate it... in fact he would ban the said journalist and news organisation from future press conferences as he has done a few times and they for sure soon adapt. Unfortunately for McNamara or any RL coach they haven't the aura for journalists not to try it on.

Those journos should stop whining and thank Steve Mac - by getting grumpy and walking out, he's given them a far better story than if he'd mumbled some boring coach-speak.

It's definitely good PR for the comp, though he didn't need to give the joyless citizens that make up the RL press corps another reason to whine (watch this come back and bite me on the behind tomorrow, when I'm dealing with them at the Millennium!)

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I reckon the journos on Twitter are sounding like a real sour bunch. They were clearly digging for a juicy story sbout a boozy punch up. They then get arsey when their questions are not answered.

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If England lose tomorrow, the RFL should sack him and bring over Wayne Bennett immediately (pay whatever it takes).

The WC is too important to the game over here to leave the team at the mercy of a oath who has achieved nothing in the game.

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But how can you prove that your way is right without it being the end of his reign? He cannot be judged yet. In another 6 weeks we will have an idea whether the work and strategies he has been adopting over the last couple of years have worked.

I agree totally with you on how we should in the end judge McNamara’s tactics. But for me the bigger test is how we reengage the UK public to RL. A perfect end for UK RL would be England V Wales in the final but as much as we can dream that is unlikely to happen.   Next best for me would be loads of ‘incidents’ preferable good ones but we have to except that there will be moments when we have to handle them the best way we can. That’s what happened today and it did the trick for me

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That would be impossible. How can you test your own methods if you are not allowed to ignore others?

Macnamara's methods were tested in the club game, and exposed as hopeless.

 

He shouldn't be in the position, simple as that.

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Macnamara's methods were tested in the club game, and exposed as hopeless.

 

He shouldn't be in the position, simple as that.

Whilst I am not McNamara's biggest fan, and i do think we could do better, I do think he gets plenty of unfair stick.

 

The reality is that club coaching is very different to International coaching.

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On a lighter note, why when you want to make a dramatic exit do you always push the wrong door. See 1.20 of this video. :biggrin:  LOL

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-league/24675754

Iv'e no problem with what he's done, typical journo's wanting gossip for cheap stories instead of good quality, in depth rugby material for decent articles. Good on you Steve Mc

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Whilst I am not McNamara's biggest fan, and i do think we could do better, I do think he gets plenty of unfair stick.

 

The reality is that club coaching is very different to International coaching.

That I would not disagree with, but surely an international coach should be required to have some sort of pedigree?

 

This guy has nothing, and if the players don't respect him due to that, then we have a big problem on our hands.

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I agree totally with you on how we should in the end judge McNamara’s tactics. But for me the bigger test is how we reengage the UK public to RL. A perfect end for UK RL would be England V Wales in the final but as much as we can dream that is unlikely to happen.   Next best for me would be loads of ‘incidents’ preferable good ones but we have to except that there will be moments when we have to handle them the best way we can. That’s what happened today and it did the trick for me

Ré engagé? When was it engaged in

 The first place

I get the impression That thé public have been env engaged in this world cup like never before

I Aldo think mcnamara has shown à great deal of moral strength good for him

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That I would not disagree with, but surely an international coach should be required to have some sort of pedigree?

 

This guy has nothing, and if the players don't respect him due to that, then we have a big problem on our hands.

He did serve his apprenticeship as an assistant.

 

Again, I think people are harsh with him as I have actually quite enjoyed watching England under his reign.

 

Like i said earlier, I'll hold off until after this WC as this is what it has all been building to.

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Years ago RL journos were mythical figures, roaming from ground to ground, seemingly stocked up with as much inside info as Syd Scoop or The Insider.

 

The perception, for me at least, has completely since seeing them repeatedly on SL Backchat. The combination of fairly ludicrous self-importance and, most disturbingly, often quite evident lack of knowledge and an inability (Chris Irvine) to grasp slightly complex concepts is astonishing.

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He did serve his apprenticeship as an assistant.

 

Again, I think people are harsh with him as I have actually quite enjoyed watching England under his reign.

 

Like i said earlier, I'll hold off until after this WC as this is what it has all been building to.

I've said in another thread that I am going to stop getting involved in discussion about him now, so I will stop.

 

However, when we get flogged tomorrow, and end up nowhere near the final, then the guy has got to go, and we need a real RL coach to be out in charge.

 

C'mon England.

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