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joe elliot

McNamara might have to leave the country

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christopher you love him because he picks your love child ;)

 

ps i see your asking for another of your favourites to be drafted into the starting team..Burrow.  I suppose he will ''terrify the opposition'', they 'won't know what to do''  blah blah blah...Stevo has been peddling that ###### for years

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I take your point but what if the team have a successful time on the field? There's a good chance of that.

It's an awkward situation, but shouldn't define his stewardship IMHO

He should of answered the questions in the first place and got them out of the way. Instead it gets dragged on and on and he(national coach) comes across sulky. Like it or not people love scandal and it helps to sell papers. If we want a bigger profile for our players good and bad press go together.

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christopher you love him because he picks your love child ;)

ps i see your asking for another of your favourites to be drafted into the starting team..Burrow. I suppose he will ''terrify the opposition'', they 'won't know what to do'' blah blah blah...Stevo has been peddling that ###### for years

Not biting mate, if you want to discuss it like an adult, I'm happy to discuss team selections with you.

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He should of answered the questions in the first place and got them out of the way. Instead it gets dragged on and on and he(national coach) comes across sulky. Like it or not people love scandal and it helps to sell papers. If we want a bigger profile for our players good and bad press go together.

this is nonsense. It is normal for sports people to have issues with the media. Ferguson wouldnt speak to the BBC for years yet Utd had no issues on their channel.

The post match interviews are nothing and woild never make any kind of news or paper.

They are usually full of stock answers and I have no issues with SM not answering questions he is not happy with.

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He should of answered the questions in the first place and get them out of the way. Instead it gets dragged on and on and he(national coach) comes across sulky. Like it or not people love scandal and it helps to sell papers. If we want a bigger profile for our players good and bad press go together.

yes he should have for reasons you give

but he didn't

my points are;

 

 the questions could have been better, and didn't need asking at both of these junctures.

his stance doesn't make him a bad coach and he is in good company there, lots of successful sports managers/coaches have at the very least fractious relations with the media

his team is playing reasonably well and that's what's really important

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this is nonsense. It is normal for sports people to have issues with the media. Ferguson wouldnt speak to the BBC for years yet Utd had no issues on their channel.

The post match interviews are nothing and woild never make any kind of news or paper.

They are usually full of stock answers and I have no issues with SM not answering questions he is not happy with.

 

Let's not bother with them then.

 

And let's not complain that the press and wider media ignore us..

 

The Man U comparison is ridiculous!

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this is nonsense. It is normal for sports people to have issues with the media. Ferguson wouldnt speak to the BBC for years yet Utd had no issues on their channel.

The post match interviews are nothing and woild never make any kind of news or paper.

They are usually full of stock answers and I have no issues with SM not answering questions he is not happy with.

We are a sport that suffers from a distinct lack of column inches..imo any news is good if it gets people taking note of our sport and players.

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Let's not bother with them then.

 

And let's not complain that the press and wider media ignore us..

 

The Man U comparison is ridiculous!

You beat me to it..comparing Fergie and football to SM and league is silly.

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Let's not bother with them then.

 

And let's not complain that the press and wider media ignore us..

 

The Man U comparison is ridiculous!

yes lets bother with them

the media haven't been ignoring us

there are plenty of other examples besides maan U, which in principle is perfectly relevant anyway

 

 

at least Mcnamara isn't bland

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Not biting mate, if you want to discuss it like an adult, I'm happy to discuss team selections with you.

Tell me what will Burrow bring to the team?

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yes lets bother with them

the media haven't been ignoring us

there are plenty of other examples besides maan U, which in principle is perfectly relevant

 

 

at least Mcnamara isn't bland

Macnamara isnt bland???? are you serious. If SM had had spilled the beans about what went on and who exactly who was involved. Why he took the steps he did, then that may of closed the matter. It would most likely have also got all those players names and pictures into many newspapers. Then a great deal many more people would now know that there is a WC tournemment going on.

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Tell me what will Burrow bring to the team?

An injection of pace and unpredictability which I think will work against a tired Fijian pack

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Macnamara isnt bland???? are you serious.

well clearly not

otherwise we wouldn't be having this discussion

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An injection of pace and unpredictability which I think will work against a tired Fijian pack

 

An injection of pace and unpredictability which I think will work against a tired Fijian pack

Exactly what I thought you would say. Which coincidentally is exactly what Eddie and Stevo say everytime there is a tournement.

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well clearly not

otherwise we wouldn't be having this discussion

I have met the guy he is bland

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I have met the guy he is bland

I have as well in a professional capacity

he's quetly spoken which is not the same as bland.

if he was bland he wouldn't have done and said what he did when people got on his t its

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I have as well in a professional capacity

he's quetly spoken which is not the same as bland.

if he was bland he wouldn't have done and said what he did when people got on his t its

Mine was not in a professional capacity. I do not dislike the guy, i just find him and his methods predictable and formulaic and exactly what the Aussies like.

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Mine was not in a professional capacity.

and?

 

When speaking to McNamara I always found his answers and observations to the point, well put, sincere  insightful and direct: never bland.

 

I repeat so far his team have played at the very least acceptably. His current slightly scratchy relationship with the media isn't that big an issue, the way his team is playing is. If his team plays garbage and gets humiliated then I'll get concerned.

I repeat yet again plenty of perfectly acceptable, famous and respected even sports managers have minor to major fall outs with the media sometimes last for years, careers even. It doesn't define their career

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Let's not bother with them then.

And let's not complain that the press and wider media ignore us..

The Man U comparison is ridiculous!

not really - it dismisses the theory that McNamara should make out with the interviewer whenever he is asked a question.

McNamara did nothing wtong, people just didlike him. Thats what we're really talking about here.

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I find some of this ridiculous. Steve McNamara hasn't done anything wrong and yet he is being castigated far more than Gareth Hock (and one other if the rumours are to be believed). the players subject of the disciplinary procedures were well aware of what was expected and yet still chose to act as they did. McNamara disciplines them (rightly) and then gets hammered because the press hound him about it.

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I find some of this ridiculous. Steve McNamara hasn't done anything wrong and yet he is being castigated far more than Gareth Hock (and one other if the rumours are to be believed). the players subject of the disciplinary procedures were well aware of what was expected and yet still chose to act as they did. McNamara disciplines them (rightly) and then gets hammered because the press hound him about it.

I'm not sure that's how it's seen by everyone.

For me, he has got himself in a corner because:

1. His organisation of the camp has been poor enough to allow some of his squad to go on the lash. In a 4 week controlled environment that is unacceptably poor management. The players are at fault but so is he.

2. He has been too slow to deal with the players when they have strayed. When the media are watching virtually 24/7, like they do in a tournament, action needs to be fair but instant.

3. Premiership football managers can afford to be offhand with the media. They love it and will keep coming back for more. RL is not in that place and the coach has to dance with the media. His reaction to Tanya Arnold was that of defensive, naughty teenager. Simply not good enough.

If we win the cup or play a part in a great final most of it will be forgotten. If we don't get to that level, however, it will get more difficult for him than it is now. I hope he is bright enough to see that coming & think about how he will deal with the media when it happens

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I'm not sure that's how it's seen by everyone.

For me, he has got himself in a corner because:

1. His organisation of the camp has been poor enough to allow some of his squad to go on the lash. In a 4 week controlled environment that is unacceptably poor management. The players are at fault but so is he.

2. He has been too slow to deal with the players when they have strayed. When the media are watching virtually 24/7, like they do in a tournament, action needs to be fair but instant.

3. Premiership football managers can afford to be offhand with the media. They love it and will keep coming back for more. RL is not in that place and the coach has to dance with the media. His reaction to Tanya Arnold was that of defensive, naughty teenager. Simply not good enough.

If we win the cup or play a part in a great final most of it will be forgotten. If we don't get to that level, however, it will get more difficult for him than it is now. I hope he is bright enough to see that coming & think about how he will deal with the media when it happens

good stuff

but

we don't know if it was 'the lash' and we know nothing of the organisation of the camp

slow? how do you know?

they can afford to be off hand with the media, and McNamara might well have got it wrong, but for crying out loud all he did was get a bit narked at ssome irrelevant, stupid questions.

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good stuff

but

we don't know if it was 'the lash' and we know nothing of the organisation of the camp

slow? how do you know?

they can afford to be off hand with the media, and McNamara might well have got it wrong, but for crying out loud all he did was get a bit narked at ssome irrelevant, stupid questions.

The media fund the sport wether we like it or not. TV revenue & sponsorship is where it's at.

Social media makes things very tough for managers & coaches but they've got to deal with it & be in control.

"I've got to go cos the bus is going" and "you're making things up" smack of being out of control when they are said in the manner he said them.

It will all come out in the wash.

Winning games will result in everyone who is doubting him going very quiet - that's the rule with the media. Fergie treated the BBC like dirt for a while with his silent treatment but throughout that time the noise from the trophy cabinet was deafening.......

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The media fund the sport wether we like it or not. TV revenue & sponsorship is where it's at.

Social media makes things very tough for managers & coaches but they've got to deal with it & be in control.

"I've got to go cos the bus is going" and "you're making things up" smack of being out of control when they are said in the manner he said them.

It will all come out in the wash.

Winning games will result in everyone who is doubting him going very quiet - that's the rule with the media. Fergie treated the BBC like dirt for a while with his silent treatment but throughout that time the noise from the trophy cabinet was deafening.......

Quite

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Yeah Hanley also behaved that way and look how we have struggled for column inches since. If you do not like the to be asked awkward and tough questions do not take the job.

 

 look how we have struggled for column inches since

 

true, especially considering the saturation coverage we had up to then.   :tongue:

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