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Larry the Leit

Murderer should be shown leniency says a posh bloke that's never met him.

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It said on the news last night that during this 'operation' the Taliban had been hanging limbs of dead British soldiers from trees and shooting at injured British soldiers lying injured.  Whilst never having heard the 'limbs on trees' bit on the news, I have read stories about our soldiers being shot whilst lying wounded.  Maybe the soldier thought he was dealing out a bit of ###### for tat for his own wounded/dead comrades.

 

This swear filter thingy really can be annoying.  

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I am not going to comment on this incident per se because I don't know enough about the case.

But I have read a few comments to the effect of 'we are better than them and don't act like that' Which may be very well true but that being so, don't get into wars against people who do act like that, or if you do be prepared to fight dirty.

It would be like going in a rough pub renowned for fighting and when it kicks off lie on the floor and say you don't believe in violence. ..just stay out in the first place.

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A bit off topic, but where will the guilty Marine be incarcerated?

Do the Armed Forces still have a "glass house"?

If they do how do the prison regimes compare and do normal time off rules apply?

Wherever it is I suspect that he will get a fairly sympathetic reaction from both staff and fellow prisoners.

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A bit off topic, but where will the guilty Marine be incarcerated?

Do the Armed Forces still have a "glass house"?

If they do how do the prison regimes compare and do normal time off rules apply?

Wherever it is I suspect that he will get a fairly sympathetic reaction from both staff and fellow prisoners.

military prisons are extremely strict and tough

but far more effort and expertise is put into training and education of prisoners

the military'ss best instructors work in prisoners

military prisoners are not banged up for 23 hours a day doing nothing

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Any idea why it's appropriate for the BBC not to name this convicted murderer, but it's appropriate to name suspects when they've been "named locally"?

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What about the 2 poor Soldier's who were killed by a rogue Policemen who they posed with photo's with.

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What about the 2 poor Soldier's who were killed by a rogue Policemen who they posed with photo's with.

This is of no relevance to this thread and you know it.

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What a load of utter garbage.Men are in a war zone,it's either kill or be killed.

Try a day in their shoes instead of pontificating.

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What a load of utter garbage.Men are in a war zone,it's either kill or be killed.

Try a day in their shoes instead of pontificating.

Thing is, if it had been a kill or be killed situation it wouldn't be a court case. It wasn't so it's murder which he clearly knew as he said  "Obviously this doesn't go anywhere, fellas. I just broke the Geneva Convention."

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Thing is, if it had been a kill or be killed situation it wouldn't be a court case. It wasn't so it's murder which he clearly knew as he said  "Obviously this doesn't go anywhere, fellas. I just broke the Geneva Convention."

Shame we don't put the same amount of handwringing into the Taliban insurgents disguised as policemen killing our troops as this.

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Two wrongs don't make a right.

If we are not better than them, then what are we doing all this for?

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Two wrongs don't make a right.

If we are not better than them, then what are we doing all this for?

"We" aren't doing anything,the nations armed forces are,at the order of our government.

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What a load of utter garbage.Men are in a war zone,it's either kill or be killed.

Try a day in their shoes instead of pontificating.

What a load of utter garbage.  There are rules of civilised conflict that must be obeyed.

 

Said as a former soldier with the medals in wars to prove it.

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A bit off topic, but where will the guilty Marine be incarcerated?

Do the Armed Forces still have a "glass house"?

If they do how do the prison regimes compare and do normal time off rules apply?

Wherever it is I suspect that he will get a fairly sympathetic reaction from both staff and fellow prisoners.

There is still Colchester but that's reserved mainly for those who'll stay in the army post-sentence.  If you've committed a civil offence, such as murder, then the typical thing is to discharge the soldier and transfer him to a civilian prison to do the sentence.  If it's a serious military offence then you get your time in Colchester then discharged after you serve your sentence.  The harshest treatment is for those who are borderline cases and have been offered a chance to stay in service post-sentence.

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What a load of utter garbage.  There are rules of civilised conflict that must be obeyed.

 

Said as a former soldier with the medals in wars to prove it.

I've lost good friends in Afghanistan.At the hands of Taliban disguised as policemen,I don't recall people on here calling for them to be given life sentences.So good for you,you survived,my friends didn't.Maybe now you can understand why i think this is utter garbage. 

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I've lost good friends in Afghanistan.At the hands of Taliban disguised as policemen,I don't recall people on here calling for them to be given life sentences.So good for you,you survived,my friends didn't.Maybe now you can understand why i think this is utter garbage. 

Vengeance isn't the job of the army.  It's there to enforce the political will of the government.  As it stands, we are signed up to many different military conventions that expressly prohibit conduct like this and it was rightly tried as murder.  It's utterly irrelevant what our enemies or opponents do as long as we obey our own laws.  Murder is murder regardless of who's on either end of the gun.

 

Also, discipline is what saves lives.  An idiot with a gun is an utter liability who doesn't deserve to wear a uniform.

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Vengeance isn't the job of the army.  It's there to enforce the political will of the government.  As it stands, we are signed up to many different military conventions that expressly prohibit conduct like this and it was rightly tried as murder.  It's utterly irrelevant what our enemies or opponents do as long as we obey our own laws.  Murder is murder regardless of who's on either end of the gun.

 

Also, discipline is what saves lives.  An idiot with a gun is an utter liability who doesn't deserve to wear a uniform.

True, discipline does save lives,but being pushed to the limit can also take lives,as you yourself should know.I've had my say.I'm leaving it at that before I say something that would get me a ban. ;)

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I've lost good friends in Afghanistan.At the hands of Taliban disguised as policemen,I don't recall people on here calling for them to be given life sentences.So good for you,you survived,my friends didn't.Maybe now you can understand why i think this is utter garbage.

Don't be so ridiculous ALL murderers deserve a life sentence. Nobody has said otherwise except in your reactionary head.

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Vengeance isn't the job of the army. It's there to enforce the political will of the government. As it stands, we are signed up to many different military conventions that expressly prohibit conduct like this and it was rightly tried as murder. It's utterly irrelevant what our enemies or opponents do as long as we obey our own laws. Murder is murder regardless of who's on either end of the gun.

Also, discipline is what saves lives. An idiot with a gun is an utter liability who doesn't deserve to wear a uniform.

I'm really pleased to read this from you CKN. In the past you've posted something that I considered to the contrary in terms of principle.

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This is of no relevance to this thread and you know it.

You should be a labour councillor as you go far.

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What a load of utter garbage.  There are rules of civilised conflict that must be obeyed.

 

Said as a former soldier with the medals in wars to prove it.

Nothing civilised about war or conflict and Dam the heads that put us there.

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He has been found guilty. Tell him he is a silly boy and then let him carry on as a Marine.

 

The Taliban got what he deserved.

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"We" aren't doing anything,the nations armed forces are,at the order of our government.

I'm paying.

And I don't want to. We will come out of Afghanistan without having solved anything, without improving the lot of the inhabitants and with a lot of British families bearing the cost in heartbreak for years to come.

When our forces volunteered to join up they signed to put themselves in harms way. Too often it is the families that were left at home that pay the cost.

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What have party politics got to do with this?

You been brainwashed since birth ? have you.

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