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joe elliot

Cumbria for Super league

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waits with baited breath for the toulouse for super league brigade to start rubbishing the idea........of course cumbria should have a presence in the top flight, one of the games strongholds..

Same as Cornwall for Rugby Union and maybe Jersey soon.

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no money, no people, no infratsructure, no thanks

 

and workington and Whitehaven have spent too much time and energy on their pathetic small town hatreds and Barrow isd too far away.

Point the finger at Sporting clubs but not at no go area's i have mentioned on the other thread.

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Hang on, on this forum aren't we supposed to blow up at the idea of a franchise, and state the only way Cumbria can have a team is if one of he existing clubs gets promoted, purely n on-field results, regardless of business plan, population or infrastructure?

*tongue firmly in cheek*

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Does Cumbria need a SL club? Not particularly in my opinion.

As long as we get a youth system in place which is organised by all 3 clubs to ensure that the best talent from West and South Cumbria is not taken from us then I don't think there is need for one.

If we ensure the young players have a route to SL and the semi pro clubs can benefit from SL clubs having to purchase these young players then that makes me happy.

If we had a system where Wigan had to buy Lee Mossop off Haven, or Warrington had to buy Ben Harrison off Barrow or Huddersfield had to buy Shaun Lunt off Workington but these players could have a SL standard development representing their county, I will be more than happy.

Cumbria doesn't have enough people and money to support a SL club. We do on the other hand have enough of it to support 3 semi professional clubs and hopefully have a youth system in place to benefit the county as well as the country in producing international quality players. That is good enough for me.

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It may be good enough for you, but you can also understand that it might not be enough for others. I for one would love to see 4 home super league games in barrow, cheering on Cumbria.

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so you would have 3 home venues shared by the superleague franchise?

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It may be good enough for you, but you can also understand that it might not be enough for others. I for one would love to see 4 home super league games in barrow, cheering on Cumbria.

What would craven park, the recre, and Derwent park be used for the rest if the time?

Would you have three sets of groundstaff? Three times the maintenance and upkeep?

Not to mention the rejection of the pathetic small town finalists?

The area whilst being passionate about the game is sparsely populated and poor and the population scattered

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What would craven park, the recre, and Derwent park be used for the rest if the time?

Would you have three sets of groundstaff? Three times the maintenance and upkeep?

Not to mention the rejection of the pathetic small town finalists?

The area whilst being passionate about the game is sparsely populated and poor and the population scattered

To SPELL IT OUT the three current clubs continue as normal they pay the ground staff upkeep etc...

Cumbria RL play at each ground 3 / 4 times.....

These games are in addition to the games usually played at each respective venue....

Think of it as the world cup, Scotland played two additional matches at the venue, pretty certain scotland rl didnt have to slip the groundsman some wages?

The only expenditure would be a small fee to each club for hosting the game, It could be wise to make the fee a percentage of gate receipt, therefore the more the host markets the event the bigger the reward and every one wins....

Also would you not want england to win a tourny because you dont like.. (insert local rival)...who also supports england?!?!

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As above and just to add that cumbria is not poor and has some of the most affluent areas in the north. Barrow and the west coast is part of the energy coast that has seen massive growth.

It's not about hurting the individual clubs it's about giving cumbria the chance of real success at the pinnacle of rugby league. It would be good for the game overall which is what I really care about.

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To SPELL IT OUT the three current clubs continue as normal they pay the ground staff upkeep etc...

Cumbria RL play at each ground 3 / 4 times.....

These games are in addition to the games usually played at each respective venue....

Think of it as the world cup, Scotland played two additional matches at the venue, pretty certain scotland rl didnt have to slip the groundsman some wages?

The only expenditure would be a small fee to each club for hosting the game, It could be wise to make the fee a percentage of gate receipt, therefore the more the host markets the event the bigger the reward and every one wins....

Also would you not want england to win a tourny because you dont like.. (insert local rival)...who also supports england?!?!

would there be enough quality players around to support a superleague team and 3 championship teams

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What would craven park, the recre, and Derwent park be used for the rest if the time?

Would you have three sets of groundstaff? Three times the maintenance and upkeep?

Not to mention the rejection of the pathetic small town finalists?

The area whilst being passionate about the game is sparsely populated and poor and the population scattered

 

Erm - Barrow Raiders, Whitehaven and Workington Town and Comets.

 

In the unlikely event that someone has the funding I would like to see each of the three clubs take an equal ~ 10% stake in a new club with the remaining 70% new finance new owners.

 

The original clubs move down a level or two perhaps even joining Wath Brow and Egrement and going back to the Winter season for year round Rugby in West Cumbria. If the new club folds it would also allow the three current semi-pro clubs to step back up to Championship level.

 

Full dual registration between the three current clubs and the new Superleague Club so that Cumbria Superleague gets first dibs on the Cumbrian players during the Superleague season.

 

Then as stated 4 games at each of the current grounds assuming they can be made to SL standard. Perhaps and agreement with Carlisle United to use Brunton Park if Cumbria goes on a good cup run (save arguing who gets the extra games).

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Same as Cornwall for Rugby Union and maybe Jersey soon.

 

Perhaps the RU should look at getting PL Union into Cornwall.

 

More geographically practical what about the Scottish RU team and the fact that the main hotbed for Scottish RU no longer has a top flight team?

 

Would Scotland be doing better if they had managed to keep funding the Borders side in the Celtic League rather than retreat to soccer mad Glasgow and indifferent (outside the internationals at Murrayfield) Edinburgh?

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would there be enough quality players around to support a superleague team and 3 championship teams

Good question,

The 3 championship clubs playing rosta would remain the same?

The superleague club would initially find players as widnes did in their first year?

Doesnt an academy already exist? What a waste if the players cant get game time to cover injuries (like escare?)

Then instead of producing players for other areas feed into Cumbria rl!

Lets not forget about travelling fans who have been starved of a weekend to Cumbria in the name if RL!

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would there be enough quality players around to support a superleague team and 3 championship teams

 

Didn't the combined semi-pro Cumbrians beat the SL teams in the 9s Tournament last year?

 

Its likely that the 3 Championship teams would have to step down a level or two.

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As above and just to add that cumbria is not poor and has some of the most affluent areas in the north. Barrow and the west coast is part of the energy coast that has seen massive growth.

It's not about hurting the individual clubs it's about giving cumbria the chance of real success at the pinnacle of rugby league. It would be good for the game overall which is what I really care about.

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As above and just to add that cumbria is not poor and has some of the most affluent areas in the north. Barrow and the west coast is part of the energy coast that has seen massive growth.

It's not about hurting the individual clubs it's about giving cumbria the chance of real success at the pinnacle of rugby league. It would be good for the game overall which is what I really care about.

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As above and just to add that cumbria is not poor and has some of the most affluent areas in the north. Barrow and the west coast is part of the energy coast that has seen massive growth.

It's not about hurting the individual clubs it's about giving cumbria the chance of real success at the pinnacle of rugby league. It would be good for the game overall which is what I really care about.

You've got me interested

Tell me more

And no stuff about dreams please

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Wigan is Cumbria nearest team . Maybe look at spreading north slowly Bolton Reebox stadium would be a great venue for super league as would Deepdale in Preston.

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Wigan is Cumbria nearest team . Maybe look at spreading north slowly Bolton Reebox stadium would be a great venue for super league as would Deepdale in Preston.

With respect, these areas would be starting from scratch and would be competing for players/fans/ sponsers with wigan,

Cumbria has it all but super league. .......

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What would craven park, the recre, and Derwent park be used for the rest if the time?

Would you have three sets of groundstaff? Three times the maintenance and upkeep?

Not to mention the rejection of the pathetic small town finalists?

The area whilst being passionate about the game is sparsely populated and poor and the population scattered

No different to West Tiger's in the NRL.

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Perhaps the RU should look at getting PL Union into Cornwall.

 

More geographically practical what about the Scottish RU team and the fact that the main hotbed for Scottish RU no longer has a top flight team?

 

Would Scotland be doing better if they had managed to keep funding the Borders side in the Celtic League rather than retreat to soccer mad Glasgow and indifferent (outside the internationals at Murrayfield) Edinburgh?

True if some silly team can pop up and down like Leeds Tykes or London Welsh in the Rah Rah £££ league then the Border's team should be allowed to play in top flight instead of some false region team that don't work in Scotland/Wales and New Zealand.

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Cumbrian Rovers SL could possibly work ..........if the RFL Wanted it too. 

 

They would have to partner up for say 10 years to promote it and help it lay its foundations, Different rules & dispensation would have to apply to this new development area while this bedding in process was going on, by that I mean extra finance & development offices & policing of the old boys warring factions until common sense prevailed.

 

Extra cash on development and keeping Cumbria's cream of the crop away from the M62 or elsewhere OR the RFL make the Buying SL club COMPENSATE the selling Cumbrian minnow until parity is restored.

 

Cumbria's hot bed of RL talent & support is the furthest from the M6 as you can get without getting wet, why in include Penrith, Kendal & the Windermere area into this development process ? These area's per capita have the most wealth and the best road links to the M6 (for the opposing teams & support)

 

Both Workington & Barrow have 2 dying sports clubs each playing in 2 tired old stadiums, "Could" the RFL get together with the FA & various sports grant writers/authorities and bang both clubs heads together and come up with a package that's just too good to turn down & where they sell each ###### stadium and build a modern stadium that accommodates both clubs for the betterment of each towns sporting communities & youth ?

 

This then could be replicated across the UK where Town's or Cities have 2 or 3 old dying stadia or tracks that are financial graveyards and not fit & proper for todays world.

 

You would have a quality stadium in both W & S Cumbria, Carlisle Uniteds ground could also see infrastructure investment then N Cumbria would have a modern facility, add another in Kendal or Penrith and you've covered the County.

 

Raise RL's profile in Central Cumbria and you'll increase the playing gene pool as well as the spectator one.

 

Sorry all of this is just idea's that came to mind while reading this thread, some of it may be worth considering though probably not much of it.

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Calling town a dying sports club is very wrong, since hitting rock bottom several years ago some exceptional people have put in massive effort to see us stabalise initially then see gradual progress.

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No different to West Tiger's in the NRL.

are you serious?

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Calling town a dying sports club is very wrong, since hitting rock bottom several years ago some exceptional people have put in massive effort to see us stabalise initially then see gradual progress.

Town have done superbly to put themselves back on firm foundations over the last few years

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