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joe elliot

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Town have done superbly to put themselves back on firm foundations over the last few years

One of the few clubs to have broke even or even been profitable a few years ago. Our board have been fantastic in cutting there cloth accordingly. And they did excellent work in hosting the world cup games.

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workington have some extremely talented young players coming through. like the phillips brothers, hopefull denis signs them up for widnes.

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I think you'll find Mick Wilson (no relation) was talking about the two town's soccer clubs. Hence the suggestion to get the FA involved in any stadium talks.

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The football club in Workington effectively scuppered the chances of a stadium being developed with the money that was available from Tesco. A few councillors also had agendas and then saw Workington Reds as allies to further their case.

Money was available to develop a sporting centre and community facilities at the time. Now the Reds aren't in that healthy position as regards their ground and today the local council announced the location of the new sports centre for the town, lets see if it has the same objections.

Also, in Barrow, I believe that the football club and its supporters hold an 'over my dead body' position regarding a groundshare agreement in any new or existing stadium with Barrow RL. There was talk around developing a site near to the docks and this is where the anti-groundshare voices came to the fore and showed their true colours.

So, in summary, I don't think Cumbrian RL clubs will be sharing with football clubs any time soon, much to their loss.

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Calling town a dying sports club is very wrong, since hitting rock bottom several years ago some exceptional people have put in massive effort to see us stabalise initially then see gradual progress.

Sorry dkw, I worded it badly I was really referring to W-Reds rather than Town who were going nowhere fast, same can be said for BAFC

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In the Workington / Whitehaven areas there is a joint population of around 180,000 people. There is a fairly strong amateur game with two clubs, Wath Brow and Egremont, competing at the top end of the Conference Premier Division.

Workington owns it's own stadium which is almost 60 years old and even after a £400k makeover for the world cup it is still, underneath, a decaying stadium. The land on which it is built is owned by the council but when it was built Town were granted a 150 year lease which included the surrounding land. That lease expires in 2106.

Whitehaven play on the Recreation Ground which is part of the 13 acres of charity land in the trust of the Whitehaven Social Welfare Scheme formerly the Miners Welfare. Haven don't have a very long lease on the ground and were hoping to get a 25 or 50 year lease in order to try to obtain grants to modernise the ground. Because it is charity land, the Charity Commission are reluctant to allow long length leases and therefore Haven's ground could never be their own.

Given these facts and the fact that there is a thriving college and other educational facilities mid-way between the two towns, to the outsiders it makes perfect sense to look to build a combined stadium close to the college where it can be used by the college and the RFL academy based there. The main stumbling block is finance and attitudes of diehards at both clubs.

I believe there is the potential for a thriving SL club here it just needs the finance to get it going.

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Sorry dkw, I worded it badly I was really referring to W-Reds rather than Town who were going nowhere fast, same can be said for BAFC

Ah right, I definitely cant argue with that then.

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With respect, these areas would be starting from scratch and would be competing for players/fans/ sponsers with wigan,Cumbria has it all but super league. .......

....or a desire to work together to make it happen.

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In the Workington / Whitehaven areas there is a joint population of around 180,000 people. There is a fairly strong amateur game with two clubs, Wath Brow and Egremont, competing at the top end of the Conference Premier Division.

Workington owns it's own stadium which is almost 60 years old and even after a £400k makeover for the world cup it is still, underneath, a decaying stadium. The land on which it is built is owned by the council but when it was built Town were granted a 150 year lease which included the surrounding land. That lease expires in 2106.

Whitehaven play on the Recreation Ground which is part of the 13 acres of charity land in the trust of the Whitehaven Social Welfare Scheme formerly the Miners Welfare. Haven don't have a very long lease on the ground and were hoping to get a 25 or 50 year lease in order to try to obtain grants to modernise the ground. Because it is charity land, the Charity Commission are reluctant to allow long length leases and therefore Haven's ground could never be their own.

Given these facts and the fact that there is a thriving college and other educational facilities mid-way between the two towns, to the outsiders it makes perfect sense to look to build a combined stadium close to the college where it can be used by the college and the RFL academy based there. The main stumbling block is finance and attitudes of diehards at both clubs.

I believe there is the potential for a thriving SL club here it just needs the finance to get it going.

That is really enlightening

Thanks

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In the Workington / Whitehaven areas there is a joint population of around 180,000 people. There is a fairly strong amateur game with two clubs, Wath Brow and Egremont, competing at the top end of the Conference Premier Division.

Workington owns it's own stadium which is almost 60 years old and even after a £400k makeover for the world cup it is still, underneath, a decaying stadium. The land on which it is built is owned by the council but when it was built Town were granted a 150 year lease which included the surrounding land. That lease expires in 2106.

Whitehaven play on the Recreation Ground which is part of the 13 acres of charity land in the trust of the Whitehaven Social Welfare Scheme formerly the Miners Welfare. Haven don't have a very long lease on the ground and were hoping to get a 25 or 50 year lease in order to try to obtain grants to modernise the ground. Because it is charity land, the Charity Commission are reluctant to allow long length leases and therefore Haven's ground could never be their own.

Given these facts and the fact that there is a thriving college and other educational facilities mid-way between the two towns, to the outsiders it makes perfect sense to look to build a combined stadium close to the college where it can be used by the college and the RFL academy based there. The main stumbling block is finance and attitudes of diehards at both clubs.

I believe there is the potential for a thriving SL club here it just needs the finance to get it going.

I don't know the area at all, but I'd suggest that in an area with 180,000 people and a very strong Rugby League history, we'd be better off not looking at potential support amongst the hardcore 2,500 Haven/Town fans. Rather we (or any new club) should be concentrating on the 177,500 other people who live there. The current hardcore will either buy in or not, but it's the others that will make or break any new venture.

 

The response to the RLWC games staged there perhaps gives us a hint as to what that response might be.

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I don't know the area at all, but I'd suggest that in an area with 180,000 people and a very strong Rugby League history, we'd be better off not looking at potential support amongst the hardcore 2,500 Haven/Town fans. Rather we (or any new club) should be concentrating on the 177,500 other people who live there. The current hardcore will either buy in or not, but it's the others that will make or break any new venture.

The response to the RLWC games staged there perhaps gives us a hint as to what that response might be.

The 'hard core' would fall in line once they are in the minority. . After all they are fans of tgg

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