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Let's keep the ball rollin', remember unity is strength, let's have a strong unified trust and maybe everything will turn out just great.

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Looking back to 1992, isn't it a tragedy that people-power from the supporters wasn’t galvanised into a-force-to-be-reckoned-with which might have helped us fight off losing Station Road

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Trouble with 1992 Bluemonkey, was that it was all done and dusted before the supporters had an inkling what was going on . The ground was sold behind our backs and the directors made sure it was to late for the fans to do anything about it. I just hope that history is not repeating itself.

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Trouble with 1992 Bluemonkey, was that it was all done and dusted before the supporters had an inkling what was going on . The ground was sold behind our backs and the directors made sure it was to late for the fans to do anything about it. I just hope that history is not repeating itself.

The one, and perhaps only good thing about this, is that they cannot this time sell the ground behind our backs.

If they do manage to sell LSV then fair play to them!

Every cloud...hey

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I was at Tuesday's meeting & I can assure everyone that the Trust's statement as given is in no way 'a cover up' or seeking to keep fans in the dark. Paul Kidd described financial issues affecting the club & the Trust now needs to take careful stock to see how it can assist the best interests of the club under potential different ownership models. Paul mentioned that the club is in ongoing talks with 2 different potential investors. Who they are is total speculation because no names were confirmed. My advice to the Trust on the night was to be pro-active NOW and not to sit back waiting for the next meeting with the club. By seeking immediate talks with Hornets & the Council, the Trust committee IS being proactive. The Trust exists solely to protect the interests of the fans within the context of the club. I really hope everyone gets behind the Trust as there is strength in unity. We have to be ready for any potential scenario. I could give my opinion on that but it's not helpful to speculate at this exact moment in time.

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I have been reading these forums a bit lately and reading some of the comments maybe,just maybe the picture is becoming clearer now and it seems that slowly,(yes a bit too slow for my liking but nevertheless) something is finally happening ie a new owner along with new investment is getting nearer to being officially announced.You have to live in hope and hopefully it will be announced soon so this matter can be put to bed,once and for all and the real hard graft can finally begin both on and off the training pitch ready for what will be a tough season with or without all this going on.

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I was at Tuesday's meeting & I can assure everyone that the Trust's statement as given is in no way 'a cover up' or seeking to keep fans in the dark. Paul Kidd described financial issues affecting the club & the Trust now needs to take careful stock to see how it can assist the best interests of the club under potential different ownership models. Paul mentioned that the club is in ongoing talks with 2 different potential investors. Who they are is total speculation because no names were confirmed. My advice to the Trust on the night was to be pro-active NOW and not to sit back waiting for the next meeting with the club. By seeking immediate talks with Hornets & the Council, the Trust committee IS being proactive. The Trust exists solely to protect the interests of the fans within the context of the club. I really hope everyone gets behind the Trust as there is strength in unity. We have to be ready for any potential scenario. I could give my opinion on that but it's not helpful to speculate at this exact moment in time.

 

I'm sure we all appreciate Steve's comments regarding the trust's position with the ongoing situation the club currently finds itself in.

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I very firmly believe that if Swinton RLFC is taken over soon with the right investment and perhaps more importantly with the right owner/chairman/directors in charge they will not just survive but will survive and given time show signs of prospering both on and off the field.I very firmly believe that the Manchester area/conurbation with a population over over 1.5 million can and should be able to comfortably support a few RL clubs at either SL or Championship level,despite having both United and City(the less said about City the better,and yes I am a United fan) on the doorstep as there is enough of a market/population to tap into,lets face it if Hull which is far smaller than Manchester can reasonably comfortably support TWO SL teams AND a Premier League football team(as they currently are)then there is no excuse for any RL team in the Manchester area to struggle.And if a potential new owner of Swinton RLFC is reading this,grasp the bull by the horns and I think you will find that the good times,or at least better times will return to this proud,traditional club.

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I was at Tuesday's meeting & I can assure everyone that the Trust's statement as given is in no way 'a cover up' or seeking to keep fans in the dark. Paul Kidd described financial issues affecting the club & the Trust now needs to take careful stock to see how it can assist the best interests of the club under potential different ownership models. Paul mentioned that the club is in ongoing talks with 2 different potential investors. Who they are is total speculation because no names were confirmed. My advice to the Trust on the night was to be pro-active NOW and not to sit back waiting for the next meeting with the club. By seeking immediate talks with Hornets & the Council, the Trust committee IS being proactive. The Trust exists solely to protect the interests of the fans within the context of the club. I really hope everyone gets behind the Trust as there is strength in unity. We have to be ready for any potential scenario. I could give my opinion on that but it's not helpful to speculate at this exact moment in time.

 

Well said. Whilst it can be very challenging in light of people having other jobs and commitments to attend to, it is by being proactive that the Trust can add real value and help progress things in a positive direction from the perspective of the supporters and the Swinton community. I just hope whatever new management / investment scenario does emerge it will be respectful of the heritage and identity of the club and have a vision for the future that will nuture these things.

 

It would be nice to see potential new owners be broad minded enough to seek out a meaningful dialogue with the Trust, as it would be bad business for them to take the club in a direction that may alienate yet more potential supporters. On the other hand, the club hasn't achieved anything like its full potential for some time, so there is good business to be done by positively harnessing the passion for the Lions that still burns in many people despite the 20 years of exile.

 

But there's no escaping the bottom line that whilst the potential is there for Swinton Lions to be a perfectly sustainable and successful club at least at Championship level, achieving the brand's full potential needs a fit-for-purpose home venue and a lot of work.

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Well said. Whilst it can be very challenging in light of people having other jobs and commitments to attend to, it is by being proactive that the Trust can add real value and help progress things in a positive direction from the perspective of the supporters and the Swinton community. I just hope whatever new management / investment scenario does emerge it will be respectful of the heritage and identity of the club and have a vision for the future that will nuture these things.

 

It would be nice to see potential new owners be broad minded enough to seek out a meaningful dialogue with the Trust, as it would be bad business for them to take the club in a direction that may alienate yet more potential supporters. On the other hand, the club hasn't achieved anything like its full potential for some time, so there is good business to be done by positively harnessing the passion for the Lions that still burns in many people despite the 20 years of exile.

 

But there's no escaping the bottom line that whilst the potential is there for Swinton Lions to be a perfectly sustainable and successful club at least at Championship level, achieving the brand's full potential needs a fit-for-purpose home venue and a lot of work.

Nice one, Mr Hudson :-)

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Well said. Whilst it can be very challenging in light of people having other jobs and commitments to attend to, it is by being proactive that the Trust can add real value and help progress things in a positive direction from the perspective of the supporters and the Swinton community. I just hope whatever new management / investment scenario does emerge it will be respectful of the heritage and identity of the club and have a vision for the future that will nuture these things.

 

It would be nice to see potential new owners be broad minded enough to seek out a meaningful dialogue with the Trust, as it would be bad business for them to take the club in a direction that may alienate yet more potential supporters. On the other hand, the club hasn't achieved anything like its full potential for some time, so there is good business to be done by positively harnessing the passion for the Lions that still burns in many people despite the 20 years of exile.

 

But there's no escaping the bottom line that whilst the potential is there for Swinton Lions to be a perfectly sustainable and successful club at least at Championship level, achieving the brand's full potential needs a fit-for-purpose home venue and a lot of work.

Very well put.I think with investment,the right people running the club on a day to day basis,vision,a place(or places) for the Supporters Trust ie on the board and other influential areas and some elbow grease there is no reason or excuse why Swinton cannot be successful on and off the field.Yes right now Swinton are on their ###### and at probably the lowest ebb ever but Swinton is an established rugby league club that has kept going through some very difficult times and what it needs now is for someone to put in some cash and take the club by it's bootlaces or the scruff of the neck,sweep away the s**t from the past,disinfect and pressure hose it all away and start again from scratch,albeit of course it is an established club.OK something different but if you bear with me you will see where I am going.Germany after WW2 was physically wrecked,they were broken,demoralised and at an ebb far far lower than what Swinton RLFC are now.OK that country as we all know was divided but in West Germany they literally had to sweep away the remains of the awful recent at that time past,they had the right leader in charge(Adenauer)for a change,and yes of course financial investment in Marshal aid along with the people running the country and it's people putting in the work and elbow grease they soon,within 15 years started to prosper once more and that country was successfully rebuilt into a prosperous economic powerhouse that could have influence on the world table,and that prosperity pretty much lasted.So basically if a country can be successfully rebuilt within 15 years,then Swinton RLFC can be rebuilt successfully and again with some investment and the correct people I see no reason why not.

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Can you pay your Trust membership by bank transfer to the sort code and account number on the standing order form, and follow up with the completed form?

 

Cheers

 

John

Edited by Jonty

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Can you pay your Trust membership by bank transfer to the sort code and account number on the standing order form, and follow up with the completed form?

Cheers

John

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I'm pretty sure you can (Martin may be able to confirm if he visits on here tonight)....but I think the minimum amount then is £500,000!

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I'm pretty sure you can (Martin may be able to confirm if he visits on here tonight)....but I think the minimum amount then is £500,000!

;-)

 

Half a million, ha, ha, ha, very funny

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I'm pretty sure you can (Martin may be able to confirm if he visits on here tonight)....but I think the minimum amount then is £500,000!

;-)

 

Cheers Paul.

 

I'll wait until Martin has confirmed before transferring all half million.

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Can you pay your Trust membership by bank transfer to the sort code and account number on the standing order form, and follow up with the completed form?

 

Cheers

 

John

 

Sorry only just spotted this, yes you can John. probably best if you put your name in the reference field when doing the transfer.

 

thanks.

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Basic, brief update on the Trust website detailing a week when contacts and planned meetings didn't happen. Next week's meeting with Ian Stewart gets a mention - let's just hope that too doesn't get shelved.

 

Keep the faith and trust in the Trust.

 

 

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I take no delight in this but I think the end is near!

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I do worry as everyday passes, also worry about the state of the team and lack of preparation for a long hard season in a very difficult league.

 

Your right barney we do have a right to know what's going on, John Kidd must of known at some point last season there was no money so why wait till now?

 

It's Christmas soon and our team is not assembled, we will have 6 weeks to prepare for the new season. We will be the laughing stock of the league.

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I still don't understand why the club has consistently failed to communicate properly with the fans in the past few years. Is it because those that 'were' in charge are completely incompetent or just relied too heavily on the blind loyalty of the existing fan base.

They (as well as future owners) should take a note of how Stockport County are communicating their current situation to the fans:

http://www.stockportcounty.com/news/article/2013-12-09-boardroom-update-1225852.aspx

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