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Standing up to the Haka

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<p>The best reaction I ever saw was the Welsh union side three or four years back.</p>

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<p>They stood and stared. And they didn't move. It took minutes to shift them.</p>

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<p>It was brilliant theatre.</p>

That's the one!!

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I agree with bearman, and not just because he's a big fan of my band. Our players have a tradition of not having to stand around whilst their opposition psych themselves up in to a frenzy. If the Kiwis want to do a traditional dance then great, they can do it before the anthems or before they go back to the sheds for their team talk.

This allows our game to respect their tradition without haing it impinge on our own prep.

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England should pull Strictly score paddles from out of their shorts and award them 3s and 4s

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For the record, the best ever Haka response is any time Chabal lined up against it

 

 

 

Maybe we could get big Eorl to grow a beard on short notice and line up with the boys? Sure he can do a decent roar.

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<p>The best reaction I ever saw was the Welsh union side three or four years back.</p>

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<p>They stood and stared. And they didn't move. It took minutes to shift them.</p>

<p> </p>

<p>It was brilliant theatre.</p>

And Wales went on to win the game?

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I think of everything I've seen, the line up on half way, starring at them is the best, becoming nose to nose when they finish. Can't believe that some people are serious about turning backs to the Haka, how disrespectful, un sportsmanlike and childish would that be. Face them, stare into their eyes and don't move until they turn around. Can't wait!

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I think of everything I've seen, the line up on half way, starring at them is the best, becoming nose to nose when they finish. Can't believe that some people are serious about turning backs to the Haka, how disrespectful, un sportsmanlike and childish would that be. Face them, stare into their eyes and don't move until they turn around. Can't wait!

 

I find it disrespectful, unsportsmanlike and childish that the Kiwi's opposition are expected to stand around waiting for them to do their cultural thing just before kick off.  Let them do it before the anthems.

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I find it disrespectful, unsportsmanlike and childish that the Kiwi's opposition are expected to stand around waiting for them to do their cultural thing just before kick off. Let them do it before the anthems.

Strange way to look at it, most people love it and I bet the opposition players wouldn't want it any other way, most use it to get fired up. It creates a great atmosphere and build up to the kick off

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Strange way to look at it, most people love it and I bet the opposition players wouldn't want it any other way, most use it to get fired up. It creates a great atmosphere and build up to the kick off

 

My four year old thinks it's great.  Personally I'd like to see it retained, but the timing of when it's performed changed.

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I find it disrespectful, unsportsmanlike and childish that the Kiwi's opposition are expected to stand around waiting for them to do their cultural thing just before kick off.  Let them do it before the anthems.

 

Yes - let's kick off while they're still dancing.  Take them by surprise. ;)

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Yes - let's kick off while they're still dancing.  Take them by surprise. ;)

Something different - a chip over the top? You are Stevo and I claim my 3 bob! ;) 

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Strange way to look at it, most people love it and I bet the opposition players wouldn't want it any other way, most use it to get fired up. It creates a great atmosphere and build up to the kick off

 

I agree completely. It would be a shame if the focus was taken away from the haka. I thought it was poor form that the Twickenham crowd sang over the All Blacks last Saturday and it didnt appear to effect them as they scored a try in the first couple of minutes. One of my many RLWC highlights has been attending the Cook Islands - Tonga game and their pre match versions of the haka and The Fijians hymn before Ireland game. Its not something you get to appreciate every week.

 

Let the hostility start when the first whistle blows and end at the final whistle.

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The Kangaroos love it and use it to fire up.

 

I remember Darren Lokyer talking about playing New Zealand and how special it feels wearing green and gold when the Haka starts.

 

It just wouldn't be playing NZ if you took it away , it's an experience.

 

I've faced a few Haka in my time , as a lad I was a scared and found it intimidating , epsecially the sound.

 

When you get older and realise it's an honor to face the Haka you feel part of it .....it's hard to explain but there is a raw Warrior to Warrior feeling facing a Haka and it makes you want to rise to the challenge as much as performing it.

 

When  they stare you down and gesture to challenge you , it's very powerful.

 

The Idea of the War chieftan of the England team shouting and walking up and down the line akin to famous Movie battle scenes is an entirely appropriate response while the men in the Line yell a battle cry.

 

That would send the crowd and commentators nuts. I would wait till the Haka had finished and then go through a battle ' No Prisoners........NO PRISONERS.....No Surrender  !!!!!!!! '  response.

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The Kangaroos love it and use it to fire up.

 

I remember Darren Lokyer talking about playing New Zealand and how special it feels wearing green and gold when the Haka starts.

 

It just wouldn't be playing NZ if you took it away , it's an experience.

 

I've faced a few Haka in my time , as a lad I was a scared and found it intimidating , epsecially the sound.

 

When you get older and realise it's an honor to face the Haka you feel part of it .....it's hard to explain but there is a raw Warrior to Warrior feeling facing a Haka and it makes you want to rise to the challenge as much as performing it.

 

When  they stare you down and gesture to challenge you , it's very powerful.

 

The Idea of the War chieftan of the England team shouting and walking up and down the line akin to famous Movie battle scenes is an entirely appropriate response while the men in the Line yell a battle cry.

 

That would send the crowd and commentators nuts. I would wait till the Haka had finished and then go through a battle ' No Prisoners........NO PRISONERS.....No Surrender  !!!!!!!! '  response.

England captain shouting,pointing at the Kiwis, thumping his heart, screaming at his charges if they are up to take them on and match them warrior for warrior :-) Love it. Frrreeeeedooommmmm

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The Idea of the War chieftan of the England team shouting and walking up and down the line akin to famous Movie battle scenes is an entirely appropriate response while the men in the Line yell a battle cry.

 

That would send the crowd and commentators nuts. I would wait till the Haka had finished and then go through a battle ' No Prisoners........NO PRISONERS.....No Surrender  !!!!!!!! '  response.

 

If that happened, I think I would completely lose my ####...!

 

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Lawrence of Arabia > Braveheart. Biggest mismatch of the tournament so far.

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No chest-thumping, no yelling - as the Kiwis do the Haka, quietly raise the black flag. NO PRISONERS!

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Yes - let's kick off while they're still dancing. Take them by surprise. ;)

Love it, little chip over the top, Stevo's favourite!

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When they have finished we get Gurner out of retirement to stand in front of the team and declare 'Zulus Sir, farsands of 'em'

Or maybe Kiwis.

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When they have finished we get Gurner out of retirement to stand in front of the team and declare 'Zulus Sir, farsands of 'em'

Or maybe Kiwis.

And seventeen of them.

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To see how to face the Haka just look at France RU when they face the All Blacks ,one of the very few teams to respect it properly and draw the energy and power away from team performing it!

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My four year old thinks it's great. Personally I'd like to see it retained, but the timing of when it's performed changed.

Interesting that Robbie Paul says it's very emotional and actually quite draining to do. He was responding to people who always ask the question "why should we stand there etc." He implied its quite the opposite.

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