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Larry the Leit

Is cycling getting more or less dangerous?

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Way refused to comment as she left court, saying she had signed an exclusive television deal.

 

Going on Daybreak, in fact.

 

Nice little earner.

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I'm not sure whether cycling's become more dangerous or not.  In London there are certainly far, far more cyclists than there were ten, even five years ago - and the more people who cycle, the safer it can often be.  Generally I've now made a policy of switching to back roads where possible - amazing as it sounds, I can often get from Islington all the way to, say, the Olympic Stadium or Borough Market hardly being passed by a single car if I choose my route carefully.  Alternatively, when cycling into work, I have little choice but to go through Holborn, Covent Garden, and Trafalgar Square (I'm used to it, but it must be terrifying for an inexperienced cyclist).  Whitehall's then a breeze.  But I don't envy anyone who has to deal with Westminster Square / Bridge - they are almost designed to kill people on bikes.

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What does that even mean?

 

She's doing nicely out if though.  TV appearance all lined up for ITV tomorrow.

 

She's lost her job, so not that nicely.

 

She's clearly a horror, and Daybreak should know better.

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Went for a 27 mile (1100 ft climb) cycle the other week and saw just three cars (and no, I didn't have my eyes shut!).

24 years ago I used to do all my cycling on the Pennine moors near my home in Milnrow, except for one day when I cycled along Wildhouse Lane towards Hollihgworth Lake. The traffic was so heavy and fast that I thought I was going to die every split second as a car squeezed past.

So my cycling has definitely got safer!

 

That said I have just started using my 'winter bike' (fixed gear) and a couple of days I was coming down this steepish road...

forgot that I couldn't just coast...

my feet were kicked off the pedals and I just about regained control before crashing into Methven Moss at the end of the hill.

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There was some analysis on the BBC's London news last night, I am on tour with my band and that's all that is on offer. Essentially it said that cycling is a lot safer now than in the 1970s (much like sitting on a radio presenters lap) but that in the Netherlands it's way safer than here.

So it's getting/got safer, but we're lagging well behind countries that treat the issue seriously.

This is becoming a big issue for Boris.

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Went for a 27 mile (1100 ft climb) cycle the other week and saw just three cars (and no, I didn't have my eyes shut!).

24 years ago I used to do all my cycling on the Pennine moors near my home in Milnrow, except for one day when I cycled along Wildhouse Lane towards Hollihgworth Lake. The traffic was so heavy and fast that I thought I was going to die every split second as a car squeezed past.

So my cycling has definitely got safer!

I disagree. Your risk avoidance has got better.

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Are cyclists never responsible for accidents

Riding without lights, wearing dark clothing especially at night, undertaking traffic, jumping red lights, seem fairly common from what I've seen 

There seems to be a culture of being a law unto themselves anarchists without the gets who ride on the pavement and the mountain bikers who ruin footpaths in the countryside

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Are drivers never responsible for accidents?

Speeding, talking on mobile phones, too busy chatting to look at the road, drink driving, jumping red lights, seem fairly common from what I've seen

There seems to be a culture of being a law unto themselves anarchists without the gets who do hit and runs and the Chelsea tractor drivers who tailgate everyone and anything to intimidate them.

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Are cyclists never responsible for accidents

Riding without lights, wearing dark clothing especially at night, undertaking traffic, jumping red lights, seem fairly common from what I've seen

There seems to be a culture of being a law unto themselves anarchists without the gets who ride on the pavement and the mountain bikers who ruin footpaths in the countryside

Something of a leap Frank. I'd suggest that speeding and using a mobile whilst driving are far more prevenlent.

All the campaigns I've seen around this have recognised the obligation tht cyclists have to obey the Highway Code.

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Are drivers never responsible for accidents?

Speeding, talking on mobile phones, too busy chatting to look at the road, drink driving, jumping red lights, seem fairly common from what I've seen

There seems to be a culture of being a law unto themselves anarchists without the gets who do hit and runs and the Chelsea tractor drivers who tailgate everyone and anything to intimidate them.

they certainly are

By the way I don't drive

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Something of a leap Frank. I'd suggest that speeding and using a mobile whilst driving are far more prevenlent.

All the campaigns I've seen around this have recognised the obligation tht cyclists have to obey the Highway Code.

I agree

And gave posted many times about irresponsible drivers

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Are cyclists never responsible for accidents

Riding without lights, wearing dark clothing especially at night, undertaking traffic, jumping red lights, seem fairly common from what I've seen 

There seems to be a culture of being a law unto themselves anarchists without the gets who ride on the pavement and the mountain bikers who ruin footpaths in the countryside

I think you will find walkers cause massive amounts of damage to the countryside , not mountain bikers .

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I think you will find walkers cause massive amounts of damage to the countryside , not mountain bikers .

I live next to woodland and open countryside have lived here for 30 years

Two foot wide tracks have become eight foot wide quagmires by mountain bikers

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Are cyclists never responsible for accidents

 

Statistically, not that often.  In accidents involving motor vehicles and bikes where fault can be found it's overwhelmingly the driver's fault.  There are occasions where it's both or neither but even allowing for them in more than half of cases it's the guy behind the wheel to blame.

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Statistically, not that often. In accidents involving motor vehicles and bikes where fault can be found it's overwhelmingly the driver's fault. There are occasions where it's both or neither but even allowing for them in more than half of cases it's the guy behind the wheel to blame.

I'm sure you're right

But you do see a hell of a lot of irresponsible cycle riding going on

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