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I'm making the decision to leave this on this forum for now.  One bit of anti-union abuse though and it gets moved.  Play nicely please.

 

On the subject itself.  The funding may be there already if the likes of BT are paying, they're throwing around money at the minute to cover next year's schedules as they won't really have a full schedule until 2015.  £11m for a single game isn't really all that much if they can fill Wembley, also £25-£30k for a single game for each player is enough to guarantee availability for anyone not contractually bound, such as the English NRL players.

 

The BT scenario is the only one I can think of for why this is even being considered, otherwise there's just no money for doing it.

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Big fan of international rugby league and been fortunate to watch GB and England all around UK and in Oz and New Zealand.  I had hoped that the World Cup would lead to more meaningful international competition not joke games for financial gain.  Wouldn't watch this if it was in my back garden.

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This is such a bad idea that I'd prefer to watch a GB/England v "the exiles" match than this rubbish.

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Never mind the NRL releasing players, IF this is true I can't see superleague clubs wanting to release players for a game on 6th December when they are in intensive off season training.

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Never mind the NRL releasing players, IF this is true I can't see superleague clubs wanting to release players for a game on 6th December when they are in intensive off season training.

Isn't December traditionally an "off" month for players with recalls starting after New Year?  I remember reading something about rugby players needing and getting a 6 week period off between seasons to fully recover in time for the new season.  I can imagine coaches will be slightly more than unhappy about that recuperation time being broken.

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Isn't December traditionally an "off" month for players with recalls starting after New Year?  I remember reading something about rugby players needing and getting a 6 week period off between seasons to fully recover in time for the new season.  I can imagine coaches will be slightly more than unhappy about that recuperation time being broken.

Saints are still in pre season training and we're now into December.  I can't speak for other clubs obviously.  I think Saints players get about three weeks off over Christmas.  They had about a month off after the season ended.

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My understanding is that clubs will start pre-season training in November, with those who have played internationals returning later.

 

According to our local paper Whitehaven have already started pre-season so I would have expected superleague clubs to have done so. Many clubs play friendlies over Christmas/New Year so and the season starts in February so December is unlikely to be an off month for most players. Either way I can't see any of the clubs being enthusiastic about this if (big if) this is true

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If this is true and I hope we've got something better than this, then I think the clubs will snap this up. The media interest in the game would be huge. It would attract a load of people who don't normally see rugby league and if it gives the players a load of cash and several million for the RFL to distribute, why would the players or clubs object?

I expect it is a load of tosh though!

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If it does bring a lot of money to our game, I don't mind. Our game needs money. Happy for it to happen if does generate a decent amount. Might give us some more media coverage as well which is also a positive especially if the league guys smash them.

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I'm going against the general trend and saying "bring it on!!!".

 

But it won't happen, and I'm sure it's a mammoth wind-up.

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My understanding is that clubs will start pre-season training in November, with those who have played internationals returning later.

 

According to our local paper Whitehaven have already started pre-season so I would have expected superleague clubs to have done so. Many clubs play friendlies over Christmas/New Year so and the season starts in February so December is unlikely to be an off month for most players. Either way I can't see any of the clubs being enthusiastic about this if (big if) this is true

 

Presumably the earliest pre-season training doesn't involve full-on matches though?

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At first I thought it was nonsense, but do you know what, if it is on offer, we would be stupid to turn it down. If there is an organiser that is promising millions of pounds to the RFL then why wouldn't they take it?

 

It is basically a big publicity stunt at a time when publicity is hard to come by.

As long as this isn't at the expense of any proper internationals, which nothing suggests it is, then where is the issue?

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Whether it happens or not it certainly is on the cards and isn't a journalist made up story.   I was speaking to Bob Dwyer and the other gentlemen, bumping into them at a hotel in London during Wembley week-end.  Bob was very nice chatting at the bar and he was not shy in saying why he happened to be in London.   Although at the time the Emirates stadium was mentioned he did say a hybrid game.  Now he may have been telling porky pies at the time but he certainly seemed serious.   I only started talking to them because of Aussie accents assuming over for the game at Wembley, which they where attending too because I bumped into them again at the stadium.  Only as got into conversation and they introduced themselves I realized whom they where.   

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the issue is our forwards will look stupid in set scrums and the union side will get around 20 or so kickable penalties in the first half putting them out of sight by half time .

by all means play them but at rugby league  which is a much better game to watch

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I think this makes sense. When people see what our boys do to theirs in the league, it'll be wonderful publicity for our game. What makes me doubt it is the suggestion that any hotel ear Holborn is swish. On that basis, I suspect the rest of this is nonsense.

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they will fill the league part of the game with league signings  from the nrl 

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Crosscode was done back in 1996. It had novelty value.

 

Now, what a totally c rap waste of time.

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I don't get the negativity around this? It will increase our profile in the media, give the game £3m quid or £200k to each club and give our top players an extra £30k in their back pocket.

So what if it is a gimmick, so was the half footy and half union in France, but that was received brilliantly.

Is RL in the UK so snobby that we look down our noses at what football and union are doing?

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Whether it happens or not it certainly is on the cards and isn't a journalist made up story.   I was speaking to Bob Dwyer and the other gentlemen, bumping into them at a hotel in London during Wembley week-end.  Bob was very nice chatting at the bar and he was not shy in saying why he happened to be in London.   Although at the time the Emirates stadium was mentioned he did say a hybrid game.  Now he may have been telling porky pies at the time but he certainly seemed serious.   I only started talking to them because of Aussie accents assuming over for the game at Wembley, which they where attending too because I bumped into them again at the stadium.  Only as got into conversation and they introduced themselves I realized whom they where.   

Bob Dwyer has been pushing for a hybrid game this last two years, he as peddled his idea up hill and down dale.

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The success of the World Cup will be lost if this game goes ahead, meanigful International Rugby League is what is required not some Mickey Mouse idea.

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Bob Dwyer has been pushing for a hybrid game this last two years, he as peddled his idea up hill and down dale.

 

Yeah, isn't this the game where you play RL in your own half of the field, and then play under Union rules when you cross the half way line (or something like that)? Strange idea, which sounds as daft as the rather odd AFL/GAA matches that take place. Still, if someone's willing to throw a few million at it, someones bound to bite eventually.

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The success of the World Cup will be lost if this game goes ahead, meanigful International Rugby League is what is required not some Mickey Mouse idea.

I agree totally.  I'm bemused this is even being mooted after such a wonderful world cup. 

 

Honestly, this sport's governing body just amazes me sometimes, and not in a pleasant way.

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League in your half Union in the other? Is this so the Union team can score some points? And if you are in their half do they get to play League when you are having to play Union?

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