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As skint as RL may be in this country, we should be working hand in hand with the Aussies to strengthen the game where needed (so in the northern hemisphere) and take advantage of competitor sports where appropriate (down under). A start would be to sort out a 4 Nations in the UK for 2015, with meaningful competition for the lower tier nations as well. It is not rocket science.

 

The ARU is in big trouble, and I think the leaked story which seems to have no substance behind it just makes them look desperate. I see no reason whatsoever that the sport of RL should do anything to help them out. All this fixture will do is put cash in the bank for the ARU and shore up a competitor sport, when really RL should be doing all it can to help the ARU go out of business. The ARU needs the money to keep hold of players like Quade Cooper, Genia and Barnes, all of whom would go well in RL and whom the NRL clubs should be able to afford with the new cap.

 

I am sure that if the boot was on the other foot, the ARU would do precisely next to nothing to help out RL.

 

That sums it up perfectly. In 1908, the RU authorities did everything in their power to destroy RL but it backfired on them and they almost ceased to exist. We should let them wither now even if they won't die. If they are not competitive it will ultimately hurt the RFU's finances over here through falling gates for fixtures against  Australia and will fin ally get it through to the larger world which Rugby code is the dominant one in Australia. RL owes RU nothing but payback. We should not help that game in any way.

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In 1908, the RU authorities did everything in their power to destroy RL.....................  Grow up guys that was a long time ago!!

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In 1908, the RU authorities did everything in their power to destroy RL.....................  Grow up guys that was a long time ago!!

 

And in England, where RU was still powerful, they persisted in that strategy until 1995 publicly and are still probably working at it behind the scenes today. In France in WW11 they even collaborated with a puppet regime allied to the Nazis to kill off RL. RL in any place in the World owes nothing to RU but enmity and we should never ever help them out.

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Don't be silly. RU is a game, no more, no less. This constant RL chip on shoulder, they're all out to get us makes RL look silly.

Its a bit like the Scotland - England rivalry, its only in the mind of the Scots, the English don't really care.

RL hates RU, RU is indifferent. Nothing worse then hating someone who isn't too fussed

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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In all of this, and given the enormity of such an international cross code fixture at the English national stadium, surely the RFL would have run the idea past the Aussies before agreeing on anything anyway? 

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In 1908, the RU authorities did everything in their power to destroy RL.....................  Grow up guys that was a long time ago!!

And more recently, in places as far apart as Italy, Holland, Morocco, South Africa, France etc... if Rugby Union is so incredibly indifferent to Rugby League, why do they keep trying to destroy it?

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Don't be silly. RU is a game, no more, no less. This constant RL chip on shoulder, they're all out to get us makes RL look silly.

Its a bit like the Scotland - England rivalry, its only in the mind of the Scots, the English don't really care.

RL hates RU, RU is indifferent. Nothing worse then hating someone who isn't too fussed

Ask Brian Moore about the England -Scotland rivalry. He will give a very different story.

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RL hates RU, RU is indifferent. Nothing worse then hating someone who isn't too fussed

Indifferent? RU is always banging on about RL. Jeremy and co can't write an article without reference to it.

Is there any law against stalking a sport? :)

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That sums it up perfectly. In 1908, the RU authorities did everything in their power to destroy RL but it backfired on them and they almost ceased to exist. We should let them wither now even if they won't die. If they are not competitive it will ultimately hurt the RFU's finances over here through falling gates for fixtures against  Australia and will fin ally get it through to the larger world which Rugby code is the dominant one in Australia. RL owes RU nothing but payback. We should not help that game in any way.

 

What makes you so sure? The RFU gates will still makes million even when teams like Fiji, Samoa, and Tongan visit Twickers. The ARU are in a better state than they were 30 years ago and will never wither or die due to union international presents. I remember some on here saying the same thing about Welsh rugby union and their stadium debts a few years ago.  

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Indifferent? RU is always banging on about RL. Jeremy and co can't write an article without reference to it.

Is there any law against stalking a sport? :)

Well, there is a thread on this on Planet Rugby which has 6 post, 2 of which are from League Fans. So yes, indifference is about right

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What makes you so sure? The RFU gates will still makes million even when teams like Fiji, Samoa, and Tongan visit Twickers. The ARU are in a better state than they were 30 years ago and will never wither or die due to union international presents. I remember some on here saying the same thing about Welsh rugby union and their stadium debts a few years ago.  

 

I'm no expert but I think what people mean is when you compare the situation in Australia, to the situation in New Zealand and South Africa, it is looking quite unpleasant.

 

I think the ARU realise that they are struggling to compete with the two powerhouses, and having a resurgent NRL that could potentially be knocking on the door for players is certainly not going to help that.

 

If the Wallabies went down a step (say Ireland/Scotland/Wales level) would they still be able to compete for the $ of a sport-indulged Aussie public?

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What makes you so sure? The RFU gates will still makes million even when teams like Fiji, Samoa, and Tongan visit Twickers. The ARU are in a better state than they were 30 years ago and will never wither or die due to union international presents. I remember some on here saying the same thing about Welsh rugby union and their stadium debts a few years ago.  

I think you may have come to the wrong forum... this is a rugby league forum and we're not that tolerant of union posts on this main forum.

 

As you're quite new, I'll leave it as a public note to you but please, in future, keep union posts off our forums.

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Don't be silly. RU is a game, no more, no less. This constant RL chip on shoulder, they're all out to get us makes RL look silly.

Its a bit like the Scotland - England rivalry, its only in the mind of the Scots, the English don't really care.

RL hates RU, RU is indifferent. Nothing worse then hating someone who isn't too fussed

I'm not sure we do. Certainly some RL folk do but all of us?

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I think you may have come to the wrong forum... this is a rugby league forum and we're not that tolerant of union posts on this main forum.

 

As you're quite new, I'll leave it as a public note to you but please, in future, keep union posts off our forums.

so you hide the RL-RU crosscode forum and then you're wondering why people make posts about RU here?

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so you hide the RL-RU crosscode forum and then you're wondering why people make posts about RU here?

Much like the adult stores that sell their wares in brown paper bags, we like to keep our embarrassing stuff hidden away.

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Much like the adult stores that sell their wares in brown paper bags, we like to keep our embarrassing stuff hidden away.

Fair enough. I imagine discussions turn into s**tfights and that's the reason you have a "vetting" system in place for access to that forum. 

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Well, there is a thread on this on Planet Rugby which has 6 post, 2 of which are from League Fans. So yes, indifference is about right

I never go on any union forums to find out - that's indifference. You are on a RL forum telling us how you aren't bothered, not quite as indifferent.

Oh and hate is way over the top, I doubt anyone seriously does.

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I like league, I enjoyed the World Cup. I enjoy a lot of the league/union banter. I agree, hate is a strong word and probably used wrongly in this context (similar to the Welsh 'hate' of the English)

But there does seem to be a bit of a sense on these forums that league is competing with Union to be the best code, which I don't sense from most union forums.

(I know this shouldn't belong here, but I don't qualify for the cross code forum)

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Don't be silly. RU is a game, no more, no less. This constant RL chip on shoulder, they're all out to get us makes RL look silly.

Its a bit like the Scotland - England rivalry, its only in the mind of the Scots, the English don't really care.

RL hates RU, RU is indifferent. Nothing worse then hating someone who isn't too fussed

 

If the history of what RU has done to RL is indifference, I would hate to think what they would have done if they rally didn't like us.

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That sums it up perfectly. In 1908, the RU authorities did everything in their power to destroy RL but it backfired on them and they almost ceased to exist. We should let them wither now even if they won't die. If they are not competitive it will ultimately hurt the RFU's finances over here through falling gates for fixtures against  Australia and will fin ally get it through to the larger world which Rugby code is the dominant one in Australia. RL owes RU nothing but payback. We should not help that game in any way.

But at the moment it seems the real and original A-holes of the union game are the RFU as theyare fighting again amongst there UK/French etc clubs about money ???.

Horrible hyocrites.

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You have to remember that up until 95 RU was run by dinosaurs who thought that the only pure form of sport was amateur. It was less that they hated RL, more that they hated professionalism. RL was, in their eyes, professional rugby.

They were idiots

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aaaaand locked.  Come on people, if we're asking you nicely to keep on topic then please do so.

 

If there's any news on the original subject then start a new thread.

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