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Steve McNamara's next job (merged threads)

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Its a real shame hes going because he brought a structure to the England set up sorely missing in the past

 

However all the experience is still there beneath him so I guess it will be a case of picking a rugby brain to improve those structures and player path ways and not a coach top coach a team, which the England set up doesn't need really - they should be up to speed when they land at Loughborough the rest is whatever the game plan will be and who in the opinion of the staff fits the roles better so different thing

 

Still think it needs to be full time and possibly based between here and Aus

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good riddance, lets not forget the shambles he caused with the england team, with a half decent coach we could have won it.

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good riddance, lets not forget the shambles he caused with the england team, with a half decent coach we could have won it.

The shambles was the lack of professionalism shown by the players, those players available were not good enough to win the tournament unless NZ and Australia both seriously under-performed. 

If anything the England squad over performed at the WC. 

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At the beginning of the tournament, most bets would have been on England making the semis. They did that, and were a hair away from the final. They pushed a very good Australia side in the first game. So he didn't do too badly

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good riddance, lets not forget the shambles he caused with the england team, with a half decent coach we could have won it.

The shambles of being the only side to score against Australia in the whole tournament? The shambles of totally dominating the Kiwis but being knocked out due to a few individual errors and 2 moments of genius.

I don't see how it was a shambles. Fair enough it took him 4 games to get Widdop in at 6 but apart from that McNamara got most things right.

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I didn't think you'd sink to that.

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What did McNamara do to deserve so much criticism? I agree he is quite miserable, but look what he did at the World Cup. We took the Aussies really close in the opening game despite several poor refereeing decisions, then were unlucky in the semi.

 

He has the backing of the players (from what I've read anyway) and should be able to have another crack at it. Can anyone remember an England side playing anywhere near as well as they did against New Zealand?

 

And say what you want about him not giving more information out about the drinking incident before the tournament started but that would have opened up an even bigger can of worms. Keeping it quiet was the best policy on reflection.

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I thought you were a Matey...

 

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 I am. I helped him move the coal out so he could put the water in.

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What did McNamara do to deserve so much criticism? I agree he is quite miserable, but look what he did at the World Cup. We took the Aussies really close in the opening game despite several poor refereeing decisions, then were unlucky in the semi.

 

He has the backing of the players (from what I've read anyway) and should be able to have another crack at it. Can anyone remember an England side playing anywhere near as well as they did against New Zealand?

 

And say what you want about him not giving more information out about the drinking incident before the tournament started but that would have opened up an even bigger can of worms. Keeping it quiet was the best policy on reflection.

 

I'm with you on this one. Many fans are just fickle and like to criticize based upon some instant judgement that will never change. Gosh over at Leeds I still remember McDermott being booed when he went over to the fans during his first season and quite a lot still would rather him not be the coach irrespective of his success - Their opinion was formed and no matter what they only see that which reinforces that initial bias rather than a real objective view.

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The shambles was the lack of professionalism shown by the players

 

And the fact he saw fit to overlook some other great players in favour of loose cannons who were always at risk of screwing up on the field and off it.

 

The man's professional judgement is poor.

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And the fact he saw fit to overlook some other great players in favour of loose cannons who were always at risk of screwing up on the field and off it.

 

The man's professional judgement is poor.

 

I suppose picking Hock wasn't a brilliant decision. I don't think he would have gone into it wildly, though. There will have been calculated thought and perhaps some of the players with behavioural issues made promises they didn't keep.

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This may be something for another thread, but who would replace him?

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This may be something for another thread, but who would replace him?

 

Where should we start?

 

Hanley, Robinson, Edwards, Griffiths...

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And the fact he saw fit to overlook some other great players in favour of loose cannons who were always at risk of screwing up on the field and off it.

 

The man's professional judgement is poor.

 

Can't agree there...and I am not alone by a long chalk.   

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If McNamara quits, the vacant England Coach post will probably only be a part-time position for the first few years.

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Can't agree there...and I am not alone by a long chalk.   

 

I should stress that it isn't a slight against Steve McNamara as a person (he's an okay guy as far as I'm aware). But you must remember the furore over his selection, surely?

 

I remember when he was chosen thinking "you are kidding me". That they could not find someone with greater credentials, public profile, and gravitas was, and is, a mystery on a par with Stonehenge.

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The main mystery about Stonehenge is ... why didn't they build all of it out of Welsh stone?

 

;):biggrin:

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I should stress that it isn't a slight against Steve McNamara as a person (he's an okay guy as far as I'm aware). But you must remember the furore over his selection, surely?

 

I remember when he was chosen thinking "you are kidding me". That they could not find someone with greater credentials, public profile, and gravitas was, and is, a mystery on a par with Stonehenge.

 

Previous incumbents  may well have had " greater credentials, public profile, and gravitas "  but were certainly no more successful and in most cases less successful. I was al the Eng V Aus, Eng v Ireland, Eng v Fiji and Eng V NZ games and not one of those reached the depths plummeted by Brian Noble's Great Britain side when they were trounced 44 - 4 by Aus at Elland Road on 27th Nov. 

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Previous incumbents  may well have had " greater credentials, public profile, and gravitas "  but were certainly no more successful and in most cases less successful. I was al the Eng V Aus, Eng v Ireland, Eng v Fiji and Eng V NZ games and not one of those reached the depths plummeted by Brian Noble's Great Britain side when they were trounced 44 - 4 by Aus at Elland Road on 27th Nov. 

 

Oh, I dunno. Getting beaten by Italy was up there.

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