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Sport England Participation Numbers

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The results are in for October to October and we are now at 53,500 people aged 16+ playing rugby league once a week.

 

This is up from the April to April figure but well down from the first collected figures from 2006.

 

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The comparison can only go from April to April, it's was totally illegitimate to change their benchmarking then go oh look you've declined by this amount.

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There's something I'm just not getting here.

How come RL has 50,000 odd participants and equestrian has over 300,000.

It's an expensive game being involved with horses. Are there that many people in this country can afford it?

Where are all this horses. I've never seen a horse in Barrow. Clearly I've lead a sheltered life.

Are they including donkey rides on Blackpool beach?

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There's something I'm just not getting here.

How come RL has 50,000 odd participants and equestrian has over 300,000.

It's an expensive game being involved with horses. Are there that many people in this country can afford it?

Where are all this horses. I've never seen a horse in Barrow. Clearly I've lead a sheltered life.

Are they including donkey rides on Blackpool beach?

You don't have to own a horse to ride: thousands of people don't

There are equestrian centres all over the country

Riding for the disabled does a fantastic job and has thousands of participants

 

Your last comment is arrogant

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You don't have to own a horse to ride: thousands of people don't

There are equestrian centres all over the country

Riding for the disabled does a fantastic job and has thousands of participants

 

Your last comment is arrogant

Thank you for the illumination,I am indeed grateful.

I had no idea, as I said 'clearly I've had a sheltered life'.

However my last comment is flippant not arrogant.

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Thank you for the illumination,I am indeed grateful.

I had no idea, as I said 'clearly I've had a sheltered life'.

However my last comment is flippant not arrogant.

My apologies

You weren't arrogant I was irritable

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The results are in for October to October and we are now at 53,500 people aged 16+ playing rugby league once a week.

 

This is up from the April to April figure but well down from the first collected figures from 2006.

 

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Is this is the crazy survey that once had 900 people in Cornwall playing rugby league on a regular basis? I think 'opinion poll' surveying is completely inaccruate for measuring this kind of thing.

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There's something I'm just not getting here.

How come RL has 50,000 odd participants and equestrian has over 300,000.

It's an expensive game being involved with horses. Are there that many people in this country can afford it?

Where are all this horses. I've never seen a horse in Barrow. Clearly I've lead a sheltered life.

Are they including donkey rides on Blackpool beach?

 

I'm not sure whether the survey refers to activity or competition. Is, for example, mountain walking competitive?

If it is just activity then there are a lot of people who ride horses for leisure. The number that will compete in registered equestrian events will be a lot less.

On the basis that it is measuring activity, my son and I are going to play rugby league on St Andrews beach against Max, our Black Lab (he is a great winger, really working at avoiding the tackle; when he is tackled, and told to 'leave', he places the ball on the ground and steps over it - definitely a league dog!).

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The figures for boxing are impressive.

 

It might well be a figure for all people training in boxing gyms rather than actively fighting bouts?

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It might well be a figure for all people training in boxing gyms rather than actively fighting bouts?

I think you are probably right and on that bases RL clubs should open their gyms to the public and boost their figures.

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I think you are probably right and on that bases RL clubs should open their gyms to the public and boost their figures.

A little investigative journalism into how each sport arrives at their official figures would, I think, be very illuminating.

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I think you are probably right and on that bases RL clubs should open their gyms to the public and boost their figures.

 

How many rugby clubs actually have their own gym though?  But I think the RFL are aware of ideas to boost particiaption numbers, e.g promoting touch RL.

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A little investigative journalism into how each sport arrives at their official figures would, I think, be very illuminating.

 

Agreed!

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I'm not sure whether the survey refers to activity or competition. Is, for example, mountain walking competitive?

If it is just activity then there are a lot of people who ride horses for leisure. The number that will compete in registered equestrian events will be a lot less.

On the basis that it is measuring activity, my son and I are going to play rugby league on St Andrews beach against Max, our Black Lab (he is a great winger, really working at avoiding the tackle; when he is tackled, and told to 'leave', he places the ball on the ground and steps over it - definitely a league dog!).

I can help increase numbers in this fledgling East of Scotland Doggie RL - our collie and springer are both ball obsessed and well versed in fighting to retain possession.

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The figures for boxing are impressive.

 

I'd imagine Trojan horse has seen a lot more boxing around Barrow than he has equestrianism, especially on a Friday or Saturday night.

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This is the how participation is measured.

The specific measure relates to people who have participated at least once a week for 30 minutes of moderate intensity.

So if you cycled to work you would count on the list for cycling, if you ran you would be on the athletics list though neither

sports controlling body knew you existed unless you were a club member.

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I'd imagine Trojan horse has seen a lot more boxing around Barrow than he has equestrianism, especially on a Friday or Saturday night.

Steady.

 

Barrow is a highly respectable place, I,ll have you know.

 

A Councillor once suggested it should be twinned with Miami in the United States of America no less.

 

It never happened, something about the cost of the air fare to send a delegate.

 

Miami's loss I say.

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This is the how participation is measured.

The specific measure relates to people who have participated at least once a week for 30 minutes of moderate intensity.

So if you cycled to work you would count on the list for cycling, if you ran you would be on the athletics list though neither

sports controlling body knew you existed unless you were a club member.

 

Not quite. That is the definition of participation not how it's measured. How do sport England know if I cycle to work or not, you don't need to join a club to do that.

 

I suspect they take a very small sample of the population at random and multiply up the numbers. I would like to know how significant (in the statistical sense) the figures are. As someone pointed out this is how you get to 900 playing in Cornwall - pure sampling chance and not based on governing body figures.

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I suspect they take a very small sample of the population at random and multiply up the numbers. I would like to know how significant (in the statistical sense) the figures are.

That is exactly how it is done.

Say for example Hull has 100,000 people living in it, they ring 100 people in Hull and ask if they participate in RL, if 1 person

out of the 100 says they play RL, Sport England say that 1% of the Hull population play RL which in this simplistic case Hull would have a figure of 1000 participants.

It is by no means an ideal way to find out figures but it the one used and all sports have to live with it. I know the RFL do submit there own figures based on how many games are played each week and how many player registrations there are.

I wonder if anyone on here has been contacted and asked to take part in a survey?

Problem is a lot of people just refuse point blank to take part in phone surveys.

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would it not be simpler to ask the governing bodies for a number of registered participants?

No, the survey is about the frequency of participation not who's data can be presented.

Example a Gym member who goes once per month. They arent doing 4x 30mins per month so dont count on active people.

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