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In league weekly (I bought this rag as a one off and subscribe to LE)Mr. Dave (Nosey) Parker staes "the RFL will be "licensing" only 10 academies for 2014 with two of them set to be Cumbria and the North east".

What does this mean? Are the SL academies of old the Licensed ones, and the Sheffield and Featherstone ones "unlicensed"

Could this mean if there was a London academy next year up to six clubs would not have their own licensed professional academy anymore???

Are some SL clubs to drop academies altogether? what will removing a licence mean is an SL academy remains unlicensed??

Are Hull/HKR going to join??

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It's hardly news, the RFL announced their intentions for player development in the policy review document. There will be 3 tiered structure, full-time academies, part-time centre of excellences and local club development programmes. Only the 10 full-time academies will receive RFL funding.

http://media.therfl.co.uk/docs/Policy%20Review%20-%20September%202013.pdf

 

Thank you.

 

My main default position is to ask the question and wait for you or Griff to furnish the answer.

 

The policy review for the senior clubs, and all the politics around it have occupied my tiny mind up to now, but it seems like not only will Superleague itself be effectively cut to eight clubs, the academy will only accommodate eight professional academies.

 

It's been said several times on here some clubs are going through the motions in terms of academies because licensing requires it. Is this chance for the poor SL relations to now opt out?

 

BTW - have a great Cumbrian Christmas...

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Midlands has an RFL Academy too.

It's unlikely to be handed one of the 10 licenses though, is it?

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It's unlikely to be handed one of the 10 licenses though, is it?

 

I'm (expertly) informed Salford and Fartown won't get a license come 2015?

 

As your an old devil, know anything about this? Richest club in SL faces no academy?

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I'm (expertly) informed Salford and Fartown won't get a license come 2015?

As your an old devil, know anything about this? Richest club in SL faces no academy?

Absolutely no idea.

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Andy Kelly is set to leave the North East RFL Academy to become Head of Youth at the Giants so that would suggest to me that the Giants will be included in the plans.

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Why?

I would just be very surprised if the RFL excluded another established Super League club in order to accommodate a nascent set-up with a limited pool of existing players and no track record of producing Super League quality players. Regardless of whether this is the right decision, it would be incendiary.

I can see the thought process behind what the RFL is trying to do here but I think it runs the r

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Why?

I would just be very surprised if the RFL excluded another established Super League club in order to accommodate a nascent set-up with a limited pool of existing players and no track record of producing Super League quality players. Regardless of whether this is the right decision, it would be incendiary.

I can see the thought process behind what the RFL is trying to do here but I think it runs the risk of provoking another mutiny if it tries to create 'haves' and 'have nots' within Super League itself.

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given that Huddersfield have started to produce a number of good players in the last few years  it would be foolish to  not include them

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I would just be very surprised if the RFL excluded another established Super League club in order to accommodate a nascent set-up with a limited pool of existing players and no track record of producing Super League quality players. Regardless of whether this is the right decision, it would be incendiary.

I can see the thought process behind what the RFL is trying to do here but I think it runs the risk of provoking another mutiny if it tries to create 'haves' and 'have nots' within Super League itself.

Same for North East and Cumbria then? Cumbria only celebrated first Super League signing last month?

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We dont currently get funded by the RFL.

Are we outside of all of this ?

You can fund your own academy in your own country :P

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Same for North East and Cumbria then? Cumbria only celebrated first Super League signing last month?

Slightly misleading response. There are loads of Cumbrians in Super League, it's just that previously they've had to travel elsewhere to join decent academies.

It would be good to see an effective academy in the Midlands once there are enough bona fide junior clubs able to feed into it. Same goes for the northeast and elsewhere.

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widnes academy was rated in the top six so i would expect us to be in the mix.

 

that said why oh why mess about with a system that is working well, every club has reaped the benefits of having a robust academy system, it just opens the doo for clubs to sign more third rate antipodeans.

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I recon any club can run an academy team  but only the select few will get money off the rfl to help fund them

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I think the Academy outfits that Parker is referring to are the under 16 and perhaps 15s. If that is so then yes, the South Wales academy will be one of the 10 I'd say. Midlands too along with Cumbria, North East and London.

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widnes academy was rated in the top six so i would expect us to be in the mix.

that said why oh why mess about with a system that is working well, every club has reaped the benefits of having a robust academy system, it just opens the doo for clubs to sign more third rate antipodeans.

The system simply wasn't working. The review showed the problems and anyone coaching or running a junior side at the age groups from which players were being selected knew it wasn't working. It was driving more youngsters from the game than it was identifying to play top level RL

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The reason for the change is that £1.7m of central money goes into the academies. This gets split 14 ways. The plan is to split it 10 ways instead. It is a no-brainer really with the limited resources we have.

For example does the game get twice the return for its investment in Hull and the Wakey/Cas area as it does in Wigan? It puts in twice the amount of central funding.

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Fev/Sheffield manage to run academies without handouts,why can't super league clubs,another backward step in youth development following the scrapping of the U15,U18,U20s.

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Fev/Sheffield manage to run academies without handouts,why can't super league clubs,another backward step in youth development following the scrapping of the U15,U18,U20s.

 

How dare you. The game stops at SL level. Nothing else matters.

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Fev/Sheffield manage to run academies without handouts,why can't super league clubs,another backward step in youth development following the scrapping of the U15,U18,U20s.

Sheffield's academy + scholarship completely drains/destabilises the dwindling number of junior clubs in the area and has yet to unearth a single player of Super League quality.

Can't really comment on how worthwhile Fev's academy is.

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