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Is arefugee the same as an Asylum seeker?

 

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Is arefugee the same as an Asylum seeker?

Generally, yes.  There are minor differences but they're the same class of immigrant, fleeing their home country in fear for their lives.  Edit:  the former has been accepted as a refugee, the latter is still waiting on that acceptance.

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Near were I use to live the local town took a fair number of refuges from the conflict in the old Yugoslavia mainly old women , young children , females of all ages when the troubles ended 95% returned home . Now the asylum seekers seem to be all around the same age and male , what's the difference if any between the two groups.

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Is arefugee the same as an Asylum seeker?

 

 

Refugees sometimes look for a job.

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Refugees sometimes look for a job.

Asylum seekers are legally banned from holding a job in the UK.

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Hunting is continuous between October and March. I used to have dealings with someone who is a member of the Bramham Hunt and it seemed as though, if you live in Yorkshire, there's a hunt somewhere in reasonable travelling distance just about every week.

 

Sorry to disillusion you, but he was brought up on the Middleton Estate in Leeds.

I live on a farm

Sheep and store cattle mainly

There is a Fox population of several earths

There is no hunting, no poisoning and no shooting

Somehow everybody seems to manage

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And that's just the way most of them like it.

I'll have to ask John to find a *shakes head slowly* emoticon...

 

They're also not allowed mainstream benefits, a single asylum seeker can claim a MAXIMUM benefit package of £40.22 a week, a couple can claim £62.07.  Not exactly luxury is it?

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And that's just the way most of them like it.

How do you know?

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How do you know?

 

Because he once saw a brown person not pay for their shopping in the supermarket.

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http://www.economist.com/news/britain/21583710-somalis-fare-much-worse-other-immigrants-what-holds-them-back-road-long

 

 

Over 80% of Somali-speaking pupils qualify for free school meals. In Waltham Forest, a borough in east London, home to nearly 4,000 Somalis, 73% live in households on benefits. More than 50% of British Somalis rent from local councils, the highest proportion of any foreign-born population. In nearby Tower Hamlets 2010 data showed that Somalis were twice as likely as white Britons to be behind with the rent. The cost of their economic marginalisation hurts them, and is a toll on the public sector, too.

Education looks an unlikely escape route. Overcrowded houses mean children have nowhere to do their homework. In 2010-11 around 33% of Somali children got five good GCSEs, the exams taken at 16, compared with 59% of Bangladeshi pupils and 78% of Nigerian ones. Parents unable to speak English struggle. They see their children move up a year at school and assume they are doing well (in Somalia poor performers are held back). Their offspring, roped in as translators, are in no hurry to disabuse them.

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This helps to explain the pitiful employment rates among Britain’s Somalis (see second chart). Just one in ten is in full-time work. Many Somali households are headed by women who came to Britain without their husbands. Fitting work around child care is a struggle. Without work, Somali men while away their days chewing khat, a mild stimulative leaf. Awale Olad, a Somali councillor in London, supports the government’s recent decision to ban the drug. But others fear it will needlessly criminalise a generation of men.

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I live on a farm

Sheep and store cattle mainly

There is a Fox population of several earths

There is no hunting, no poisoning and no shooting

Somehow everybody seems to manage

 

I'm surprised that a sheep farmer doesn't shoot foxes. They certainly do in Wales.

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I'm surprised that a sheep farmer doesn't shoot foxes. They certainly do in Wales.

He has no reason to

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Don't the farm's sheep have lambs every year then?

 

Or does it just fatten male lambs for the market?

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Don't the farm's sheep have lambs every year then?

 

Or does it just fatten male lambs for the market?

Of course they do

And?

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http://www.economist.com/news/britain/21583710-somalis-fare-much-worse-other-immigrants-what-holds-them-back-road-long

 

 

Over 80% of Somali-speaking pupils qualify for free school meals. In Waltham Forest, a borough in east London, home to nearly 4,000 Somalis, 73% live in households on benefits. More than 50% of British Somalis rent from local councils, the highest proportion of any foreign-born population. In nearby Tower Hamlets 2010 data showed that Somalis were twice as likely as white Britons to be behind with the rent. The cost of their economic marginalisation hurts them, and is a toll on the public sector, too.

Education looks an unlikely escape route. Overcrowded houses mean children have nowhere to do their homework. In 2010-11 around 33% of Somali children got five good GCSEs, the exams taken at 16, compared with 59% of Bangladeshi pupils and 78% of Nigerian ones. Parents unable to speak English struggle. They see their children move up a year at school and assume they are doing well (in Somalia poor performers are held back). Their offspring, roped in as translators, are in no hurry to disabuse them.

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This helps to explain the pitiful employment rates among Britain’s Somalis (see second chart). Just one in ten is in full-time work. Many Somali households are headed by women who came to Britain without their husbands. Fitting work around child care is a struggle. Without work, Somali men while away their days chewing khat, a mild stimulative leaf. Awale Olad, a Somali councillor in London, supports the government’s recent decision to ban the drug. But others fear it will needlessly criminalise a generation of men.

 

The solution would appear to be to devote more resources to people who need them.

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The solution would be to not let them in in the first place

People from New Zealand speak English are familiar with the British way of life cone from a wealthy first world country with a well developed education system: wouldn't you expect them to come out top. Also they are not asylum seekers

People from Poland and Lithuania are familiar with the European way of life, have skills are well educated although English is not their first language many are adequate or even good English speakers. They are not asylum seekers

 

People from Bangladesh come from impoverished third world countries with poor education and have poor if any English skills. They are probably asylum seekers not mmigrants

 

The Chinese are in many if not most cases only temporarily here since most are either in employment or students. It's,doubtful whether they have fled here

 

The Somalis come from one of the poorest most wretched countries on earth with little education even in their own language. They have fled a country that has for years been ravaged by war. They are not immigrants. They are asylum seekers.

 

Firstly I suggest you check out the difference between

An immigrant and an asylum seeker

Nexti suggest you look at the actual meaning of data you supply before using  it to back up your ill thought out prejudiced ideas

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Either way, a proportion of my taxes is going to foreign spongers who contribute knack all to this country.

 

As for your claim that most Bangladeshis are asylum seekers; I suspect that it's you who don't know what you are talking about. Bangladesh is a constitutional democracy.

 

Doesn't your heart bleed for these pour souls.

 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2383868/Bogus-ID-gang-let-250-Bangladeshi-immigrants-exploit-UK-benefits-gold-mine.html

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There are millions of people in dire straits all over the world. Is it feasible to suggest they all come here? I don't see why you would come here from Somalia as opposed to the nearest safe haven.

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There are millions of people in dire straits all over the world. Is it feasible to suggest they all come here? I don't see why you would come here from Somalia as opposed to the nearest safe haven.

 

Maybe they don't all come here ...

 

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Maybe they don't all come here ...

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Don't you dare start quoting facts when there's all this comfortable ill informed prejuduce knocking about.

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I don't think they do all come here. But you could make an emotional argument for allowing every single person on planet earth to.

At what point does it become racist to point out we have finite resources.

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Because he once saw a brown person not pay for their shopping in the supermarket.

Don't you mean "coloured"

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