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Thanks for the update Gareth, hopefully everything will come to fruition soon.  The sooner the better as the season is nearly upon us.  Here's to some good news coming soon (hopefully).

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You're welcome Gareth. My life has hung by its fingertips more than once at the whims of careless newspaper men

I will consider you one of the good ones in light of your update!

Sadly still none the wiser....regarding the takeover

Are you up to ringing anyone else for us?

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I've been in semi-regular contact with Paul Kidd throughout all of this, but unfortunately there has been a very limited amount of information we've been able to report on, due to the nature of the talks. I've been assured that could change this week when I ring tomorrow, so we'll see.

 

While always trying to be as diligent as possible, in reality Swinton is one of 14 clubs that I contact every Friday - so any pointers as to other people I should be ringing would certainly be useful. I'll definitely be keeping in touch with Ian Watson on a weekly basis now it looks as though he will be your coach, and hopefully player news will begin to filter out.

 

What I would say is that over the last couple of weeks, generally people at the club and within the game seem to be more positive about Swinton's future. I hope that's a good sign. Speaking from Rochdale's experience, things can turn round when enough people who care about a club get involved. And Hornets has never been a particularly well supported club!

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In fact flicking down a few tbreads from this one the "Manchester rlfc" debate thread I believe was based on this whole premise.

Or am I missing something...I'm not feeling my best today?

In fact just also found this quote from Loyal lion...John Kidd has basically stepped back and left Paul to deal with it all. No mention of the other board members at all. The top table did say that another party was interested but in Paul Kidd's view it would have meant that we would have had to move out of the area!

If my memory serves me correctly Mark that's what was reported!

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Thanks Gareth for doing what you can to keep people informed of the goings on at Swinton Lions through these very turbulant times, during which all alternative local and trade press aside from League Express have printed precisely nothing - which in itself is unsettling for the many people who still care about the club but are not party to the ongoing negotiation process.

 

The specific number of 14 players being in training was fresh information and to some degree reassuring, and it was good to see quotes from Ian Watson in light of the reports elsewhere that he was reputedly very close to becoming assistant coach at Leeds.

 

Clearly the club officials are keeping their cards extreamley close to their chests, so much so that there has been nothing on the club website in weeks and no club official attended a supporters meeting held last month where the major scale financial problems were first revealed via representatives of the Supporters Trust.  It was unfortunate that no members of the media were at that meeting, but a positive that you covered the key messages that emerged.  In such circumstances the motto that fits with regard to the poor quality of recently available information is surely "Don't shoot the messenger".  Please keep up the good work, you do a very valuable job of covering the teams outside Super League and raising their perspective on important issues in the game.

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If my memory serves me correctly Mark that's what was reported!

 

It was reported by Martin McDonough, to be precise.

 

The story being that there was another interested party at one stage, but at the time of last month's meeting the forward options were limited to Dr Koukash and the Supporters Trust.

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Thanks Gareth, this is why most of us buy the League Express instead of the Salford Evening News. Have you contacted Dr.Koukash recently/or will you be for an update.

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Thanks Gareth for doing what you can to keep people informed of the goings on at Swinton Lions through these very turbulant times, during which all alternative local and trade press aside from League Express have printed precisely nothing - which in itself is unsettling for the many people who still care about the club but are not party to the ongoing negotiation process.

The specific number of 14 players being in training was fresh information and to some degree reassuring, and it was good to see quotes from Ian Watson in light of the reports elsewhere that he was reputedly very close to becoming assistant coach at Leeds.

Clearly the club officials are keeping their cards extreamley close to their chests, so much so that there has been nothing on the club website in weeks and no club official attended a supporters meeting held last month where the major scale financial problems were first revealed via representatives of the Supporters Trust. It was unfortunate that no members of the media were at that meeting, but a positive that you covered the key messages that emerged. In such circumstances the motto that fits with regard to the poor quality of recently available information is surely "Don't shoot the messenger". Please keep up the good work, you do a very valuable job of covering the teams outside Super League and raising their perspective on important issues in the game.

oh a very surreptitious telling off

I'll consider my legs smacked dad!

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If my memory serves me correctly Mark that's what was reported!

I knew it!

To be honest for me whilst news of a team being slowly assembled is encouraging and welcome I honestly wouldn't care if we have the season from hell if our long term future is assured

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How good is that - input on the forum from Gareth Walker.  It just shows he does have his finger on the pulse of RL outside Super League.  His efforts on getting information from Swinton and reporing the situation as accurately as possible puts other journalists to shame.  Thanks for your efforts Gareth and keep up the good work.

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The trust are still working hard behind the scenes to help secure the future of the club and it is hoped that the membership can be updated at next Tuesdays trust AGM open to members at 7pm  at The White Lion.

Membership has increased by about twenty people since the open meeting and we are hoping that people that took forms to join will send them back soon as the more members we have the better.

 

Lets have the Lions roaring again quickly !!

 

 

 

Riggy

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This is what I dont get Riggy. You guys are working for nothing and keeping your dignity and I presume your word to not disclose confidences on sensitive information,whilst others press on trying to get people to betray those confidences in public. 

A bloke makes a phone call and he is given adulation.

Its all a bit odd.

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Think Watto has been tasked with Marlon to start getting players together and start training and as far as i know they have been doing this for a few weeks.   The off field things have been left to those doing the work in the back ground to try and keep the club going and we are all pulling together to try to make this work.  There have been things happening virtually everyday since the Christmas break finished. 

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This is what I dont get Riggy. You guys are working for nothing and keeping your dignity and I presume your word to not disclose confidences on sensitive information,whilst others press on trying to get people to betray those confidences in public. 

A bloke makes a phone call and he is given adulation.

Its all a bit odd.

. Think it's a case of "all publicity is good publicity" and fact is we've had hardly any mention in the media for weeks.So for me if a leading RL journalist writes a half page article in a publication and imparts some information that I certainly Wasnt aware of that is accompanied with quotes from the coach elect then for me it's something to be applauded not mocked.

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Like Riggy says, the Trust certainly hasn't been idle & more news will follow within the next 5 days. Judging by this forum, everyone has been really patient since Christmas & that's been very helpful.

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Just to endorse what Steve has written, the Trust will be in a position to further inform not only the trust members but the wider support with an update on the discussions and meetings which have taken place since just before Xmas and over that period.

I feel confident that the Lions will be taking their place on the field of play in 2014.

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The trust are still working hard behind the scenes to help secure the future of the club and it is hoped that the membership can be updated at next Tuesdays trust AGM open to members at 7pm  at The White Lion.

Membership has increased by about twenty people since the open meeting and we are hoping that people that took forms to join will send them back soon as the more members we have the better.

 

Lets have the Lions roaring again quickly !!

 

 

 

Riggy

If you get a chance Riggy I would be interested to know how many members there are in the Trust at the moment.

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I will be joining if someone can send me an application form and details of where to send it.Even better if someone wants to call at my luxury apartment will pay in cash.

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Dave, details are on the Trust website along with forms to download. Failing that, if you come along to the AGM at the White Lion in Tuesday at 7pm you will be able to join there and then. The more the merrier....and the more we can do to help the Lions survive...perhaps we should have an "Adopt a Lion" campaign and see if we can get money from the likes of David Attenborough!!

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This is what I dont get Riggy. You guys are working for nothing and keeping your dignity and I presume your word to not disclose confidences on sensitive information,whilst others press on trying to get people to betray those confidences in public. 

A bloke makes a phone call and he is given adulation.

Its all a bit odd.

Like your original opinion on Gareth Walker's efforts this post seems unfair to me.  Since the Trust got seriously involved with the present difficult situation there has been lots of support and good will shown towards their efforts and for the most part there has been a good understanding that the Trust has told us what it can when it can and I for one am delighted that we are getting those regular updates.

 

I don't live locally anymore so I have had to rely upon this forum, the rugby league press and any information the Club released to keep abreast of events before the Trust stepped in.  I buy the two weekly RL papers regularly and League Express has been good at reporting something about The Lions virtually every week and reflected events as accurately as was possible.  League Weekly was just the opposite, either printing nothing or only outdated and sometimes inaccurate material.  In the end it annoyed me so much I emailed a complaint to their editor.

 

So praise, not adulation, where it is due to those in the Trust who are putting in the effort and to Mr Walker for doing a good job too.  

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I sincerely don't think that anyone either within the trust or the press are seeking any form of gain in terms of reporting the Lions difficulties this winter.

What I feel safe to say is that in their own way ever spectator has concerns about how and why the club has found itself on the situation it has and where possible those who are able to donate a little bit extra time to assist in getting a resolution to the situation , have done so without wishing to seek any "adulation" more to ensure this great club reaches 150 years of existence for the enjoyment of all Lions fans.

Hopefully we are nearly there. But be under no illusions a great deal of hard work will be needed from now on to allow this club to flourish and that involves all fans pulling together .

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Like your original opinion on Gareth Walker's efforts this post seems unfair to me. Since the Trust got seriously involved with the present difficult situation there has been lots of support and good will shown towards their efforts and for the most part there has been a good understanding that the Trust has told us what it can when it can and I for one am delighted that we are getting those regular updates.

I don't live locally anymore so I have had to rely upon this forum, the rugby league press and any information the Club released to keep abreast of events before the Trust stepped in. I buy the two weekly RL papers regularly and League Express has been good at reporting something about The Lions virtually every week and reflected events as accurately as was possible. League Weekly was just the opposite, either printing nothing or only outdated and sometimes inaccurate material. In the end it annoyed me so much I emailed a complaint to their editor.

So praise, not adulation, where it is due to those in the Trust who are putting in the effort and to Mr Walker for doing a good job too.

This was never a dig at yourself or any other genuine good hearted fans

I was trying and obviously failing to point out that perhaps we could look closer to home when it comes to dishing out praise

I have a deep seated dislike of the press....and I still fail to see what is so impressive about making a phone call and printing the bare bones of it. Gareths posting on here to be fair was much more enlightening and something he didn't need to do. I thanked him for that

If the press and rugby league papers really do care about us they have given us very little publicity

Bur then that comes to the crux of it to me

Was this policy deliberate?

I believe that these negotiations would never in any other walk of life be open to public scrutiny and the vast majority of fans have been patient beyond belief

I think that the conduct of the Trust has been exemplary in their ability to hold their tongues

To me the benefits of this approach will be obvious as we hopefully enter a great new era for our club

Could the speculation from the press and fans alike from this rehashed story from Gareth Walker have affected the process?

I dont know.

I do wish I'd not bothered saying anything to be honest

I just felt the point I was trying to make was....lets learn to hold our own urine for a short while longer and put a little faith in those who quietly keep telling us things are happening behind the scenes.

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This was never a dig at yourself or any other genuine good hearted fans

I was trying and obviously failing to point out that perhaps we could look closer to home when it comes to dishing out praise

I have a deep seated dislike of the press....and I still fail to see what is so impressive about making a phone call and printing the bare bones of it. Gareths posting on here to be fair was much more enlightening and something he didn't need to do. I thanked him for that

If the press and rugby league papers really do care about us they have given us very little publicity

Bur then that comes to the crux of it to me

Was this policy deliberate?

I believe that these negotiations would never in any other walk of life be open to public scrutiny and the vast majority of fans have been patient beyond belief

I think that the conduct of the Trust has been exemplary in their ability to hold their tongues

To me the benefits of this approach will be obvious as we hopefully enter a great new era for our club

Could the speculation from the press and fans alike from this rehashed story from Gareth Walker have affected the process?

I dont know.

I do wish I'd not bothered saying anything to be honest

I just felt the point I was trying to make was....lets learn to hold our own urine for a short while longer and put a little faith in those who quietly keep telling us things are happening behind the scenes.

Very true Mark we really need to keep everything under our hats until this delicate process has finished, but on the other hand you can't help getting a little bit excited about all this such are the ramifications of everything coming off as we are all hoping they will.  I know I am!  Me +2 to the meeting wherever it's held.  Come on you Lions!

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I agree that the press and in particular the MEN have in general ignored us.

When Salford were in our position last year the MEN ran daily stories in support, we have had nothing.

In fairness to the press it may well be that nobody from the club had told them anything but we all know when the press want to they can come looking for a story.

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