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Halifax sunday

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Usually a good game against the old women of Fax

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Its should of been at mount anyway, 3 friendly's away & one at home was ridiculous

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From a spectator point of view l can almost see that but when looked at it probably does not make much difference. The Boxing Day match couldn't be at home this year. Financially it is probably better to play St Helens away and it would not surprise me if we lost money if we played at home to Keighley. Not sure what the attendance will be against Halifax but hope it will be high enough to cover costs.

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After our win against the relegation favorites on Boxing day with our duel reg players and the Bissa commitee, I expect a tougher game this Sunday, but think we will prevail 28 - 16

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Disagree about saints game dog, as i know of already 20 supporters cant go due to work commitments with it being a friday with travelling up the notorious m62 they wont make it in time, realy silly aving this fixture on a friday anyway

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This is about finances. We are getting the gate money. There will almost certainly be a bigger gate at theirs than at ours. The hard facts are if 20 of our supporters don't go we may lose £200, if it was at the Mount we would take a lot less than if it was at Saints. Friday is inconvenient for us l agree, as l suggested in my previous post but it is their match night of choice and likely to attract a bigger gate for them.

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As far as I am aware Batley are on guaranteed money against the Saints so there would be no loss to Batley if 20 supporters were unable to get there. 

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Its should of been at mount anyway, 3 friendly's away & one at home was ridiculous

 

 

Typical of the RFL eh?

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This is about finances. We are getting the gate money. There will almost certainly be a bigger gate at theirs than at ours. The hard facts are if 20 of our supporters don't go we may lose £200, if it was at the Mount we would take a lot less than if it was at Saints. Friday is inconvenient for us l agree, as l suggested in my previous post but it is their match night of choice and likely to attract a bigger gate for them.

Judging by their gates last season, and the fact that it'll be their supporters first chance to get a look at the clubs new signings for 2014, I'd hope that there'll be at least 3-4 thousand at the Saints friendly. This should prove a most profitable piece of the Walmsley deal.

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As far as I am aware Batley are on guaranteed money against the Saints so there would be no loss to Batley if 20 supporters were unable to get there.

I'd read somewhere that Batley got all the gate.

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John, what does guaranteed money mean? Do they get a set amount regardless of the gate? The website just states that we get the gate money.

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This is about finances. We are getting the gate money. There will almost certainly be a bigger gate at theirs than at ours. The hard facts are if 20 of our supporters don't go we may lose £200, if it was at the Mount we would take a lot less than if it was at Saints. Friday is inconvenient for us l agree, as l suggested in my previous post but it is their match night of choice and likely to attract a bigger gate for them.

With the game been played on Friday (24th January) the week before monthly paid salaries are paid I cannot see the game making Batley more money than if the game was played at home on the 9th February and Saints brought a strong side. 

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I disagree. How many would we expect to turn up at the Mount? 2,000? 3,000? If there were fewer than that at Langtree Park I would be disappointed. I just think that with a reasonable turnout this will probably be our biggest grossing match of the season.

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I disagree. How many would we expect to turn up at the Mount? 2,000? 3,000? If there were fewer than that at Langtree Park I would be disappointed. I just think that with a reasonable turnout this will probably be our biggest grossing match of the season.

Agree. Even with a full Saints squad we wouldn't manage a crowd of more than 700-800 for a friendly at the Mount. Lets not forget that we can barely muster 1000 for a league game. There should be a decent crowd at Saints, who's fans will be looking forward to a first glimpse at their new signings. I think the crowd figure may even surprise some people.

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Kevin Nicholas told a shareholders meeting that Batley would receive a fixed sum or the total gate proceeds whichever was the larger.

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Depending on the amount, that seems like a decent agreement. One hopes that the larger amount is the gate receipts due to a sizeable attendance.

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Agree. Even with a full Saints squad we wouldn't manage a crowd of more than 700-800 for a friendly at the Mount. Lets not forget that we can barely muster 1000 for a league game. There should be a decent crowd at Saints, who's fans will be looking forward to a first glimpse at their new signings. I think the crowd figure may even surprise some people.

st helens full strength as us and wigan are there only pre season games and i'd expect 4000+ And there u20s play on the sunday at rochdale plus i don't think nathan brown would want the saints fans on his back straight away like! Q

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Its all very well saying all that, but the 20 fans i mentioned was the only few i knew,they will be considerable more not going for the same reason i.e. friday evening bad day to play, its all very good being only £10 in but what about the fuel cost's its gonna cost & like bulldogtrev pointed out its week before monthly pay & so soon after xmas, fans just cant afford it, & as for the gate recieved don't forget all expences come out of that, i.e. officials fee's, stewards fee's, players fee's backroom staff fee's. i realy want to see this game aswel but my shop doesn't close till 7 & im sure with this deal playing saints is part of the walmsley deal, it could of been pointed out aswel in the deal that the game be played on a sunday so all fans of both teams get to see there players out on the pitch.

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Its all very well saying all that, but the 20 fans i mentioned was the only few i knew,they will be considerable more not going for the same reason i.e. friday evening bad day to play, its all very good being only £10 in but what about the fuel cost's its gonna cost & like bulldogtrev pointed out its week before monthly pay & so soon after xmas, fans just cant afford it, & as for the gate recieved don't forget all expences come out of that, i.e. officials fee's, stewards fee's, players fee's backroom staff fee's. i realy want to see this game aswel but my shop doesn't close till 7 & im sure with this deal playing saints is part of the walmsley deal, it could of been pointed out aswel in the deal that the game be played on a sunday so all fans of both teams get to see there players out on the pitch.

Costs would be the same regardless of where it was played surely? Players do not get paid for friendlies AFAIK it is seen as a training session and a chance to stake a claim for a starting place. 

 

Saints play all of there home games on a Friday, and have done for a long time so their supporters are used to Friday evening kick offs so why upset the apple-cart for the majority of fans likely to attend the game? You also speak of travel costs putting people off attending, but would this not be the same for the Saints fans travelling to the Mount and as stated earlier there are likely to be 10 times more of them than us.

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All full time players get paid regardless of a friendly or league or cup game

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No because this is supposed to be for our fans to see how we fair against a sl team so y should it cost us more

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Couldn't their supporters say it is for their supporters to see their team get a run out too? While it may not suit all of our supporters, or indeed none of them, I think as a supporters cohort, we tend to be looked after relatively well by the club. Sometimes, not everything will happen exactly the way we want. I really believe that the main point of this game is for us to gain as much money as we can from it. we will be able to do that by playing the game at their ground.

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End of day it was supposed to be in with the deal with alex for our club so them not playing on a sunday is benifiting them and not us and as far as them playing there home games just on a friday is wrong, as they had two friendleys at home + 2 CUP games and with it only being a friendly as u said then theres no reason at all it cant be played on a sunday afternoon, end of day we could argue all night about this but thats my view and same view as many others who wanted to see the game simples.

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