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Was just wondering if the wonderful RFL family could help with info on the stat of proposed or potential new build stadiums. The thread could just be topped up by info as service info. It seems that Wakey's and York's new stadia have had there new grounds "Coming Soon" for ever now.

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Wakefield's is reliant and the surrounding development. A large cold storage company synonymous with Tesco has an application approved to build a large percentage of the enabling works but more is needed.

There was a rumour last week which suggested the development has been pulled with Trinity looking to build a £5m main stand at BV instead but as it stands that has been rubbished by the key players involved in the project.

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There was a rumour last week which suggested the development has been pulled with Trinity looking to build a £5m main stand at BV instead but as it stands that has been rubbished by the key players involved in the project.

I'd love to see some of these grounds remain and become gradually redeveloped as opposed to moving to a new ground. I love Castleford's ground and think it would be a shame if they left there. However, from my limited understanding I gather it is cheaper to build a brand spanking new one on a new site than gradually demolish and re-build an existing ground.

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Yes the cost of maintaining an old(er) stadiums rapidly costs more than a new modern style stadium. Any sport club GM will tell you that No team can compete until in a new build stadium and even better if there gonna own or at least part own it.

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There is of course the local protest groups

Well they've had their say and the development has been passed.

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Yes the cost of maintaining an old(er) stadiums rapidly costs more than a new modern style stadium. Any sport club GM will tell you that No team can compete until in a new build stadium and even better if there gonna own or at least part own it.

 

Featherstone seem to have gone a middle route of more or less building a largely new or recycled stadium on an existing site.

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I hear this from a lot of non-league football fans That local councils aren't inersted in helping clubs find land in there boroughs they just treat them as a nuisuiance. These are the 1st people on tv thou should the club go on a great run or get national exposure. Some1 once told me that our local councillor would go 2 the opening of an envelope if I'd had column inches in it.

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Wakefield's is reliant and the surrounding development. A large cold storage company synonymous with Tesco has an application approved to build a large percentage of the enabling works but more is needed.

There was a rumour last week which suggested the development has been pulled with Trinity looking to build a £5m main stand at BV instead but as it stands that has been rubbished by the key players involved in the project.

Turns out there was an element of truth to the rumour.

Trinity planning on staying at a redeveloped BV. Back to square one again.

http://www.wakefieldexpress.co.uk/news/local-news/exclusive-wakefield-wildcats-plan-to-stay-at-belle-vue-1-6592371#.U2J_JNzjZUI.twitter

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What will redevelopment entail? A new stand i'd imagine?

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What will redevelopment entail? A new stand i'd imagine?

Anyone's guess. The whole place needs razing to the ground and starting a fresh. New main stand may be the priority.

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What will redevelopment entail? A new stand i'd imagine?

A new coat of paint is probably nearer the mark

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Redevelopment of Belle Vue has being doing the rounds since a fans forum in September when fans were quizzed if they would be in favour of staying at Belle Vue or moving to the well out of town Newmarket development . Think the problem was we need new ground ASAP so the club can develop and plan and with Newmarket stadium funding relying on occupied warehouses that could take years. If all party's have agreed Belle Vue is the quickest option I'm all for it aslong as it's done properly

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What will redevelopment entail? A new stand i'd imagine?

Best practice? Can of petrol. Match. Insurance form.

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meanwhile....how much club/fans/council tax money has gone on this pipedream? Expect lots of "told you so."

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meanwhile....how much club/fans/council tax money has gone on this pipedream? Expect lots of "told you so."

Relatively nothing. The whole development is still happening. It's just the stadium that will not. There is hope that a portion of the site earmarked for the stadium will still be used for community and training facilities, a small arena for academy games and for local amateur teams to use. These are still very much needed, but won't cost quite so much.

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Relatively nothing. The whole development is still happening. It's just the stadium that will not. There is hope that a portion of the site earmarked for the stadium will still be used for community and training facilities, a small arena for academy games and for local amateur teams to use. These are still very much needed, but won't cost quite so much.

 

I've gone there for decades, and as far as I'm concerned all three sides except the flats are awful and to attract and accommodate customers it needs three new stands for cover, comfortable seating and decent food drink and toilet facilities. I get the impression the site is tight, and this is a move out of necessity through the condemnation and scaling down of the capacity, which the fans have no inclination to test anyway. But I also feel Trinity's ambitions have been effectively scaled down too.

 

My question is as the club are seemingly skint how do they afford to build anything? Money was ring fenced from the sale of Belle Vue, but if they are staying then how can that be used??

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I've gone there for decades, and as far as I'm concerned all three sides except the flats are awful and to attract and accommodate customers it needs three new stands for cover, comfortable seating and decent food drink and toilet facilities. I get the impression the site is tight, and this is a move out of necessity through the condemnation and scaling down of the capacity, which the fans have no inclination to test anyway. But I also feel Trinity's ambitions have been effectively scaled down too.

 

My question is as the club are seemingly skint how do they afford to build anything? Money was ring fenced from the sale of Belle Vue, but if they are staying then how can that be used??

The money that was to be spent on a new stadium at Newmarket will transfer straight across to the redevelopment of Belle Vue so no money from Trinity required.

I'm with you on the total redevelopment but I'd go further and say all four sides need doing

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Agreed all sided need redeveloping, however in reality the funding won't cover the costs. At best I think we can hope for a new East Stand, a new simple Western terrace and major remedial action to the Northern Terrace. I think there's a lot of water to flow under the bridge yet though.

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A new coat of paint is probably nearer the mark

 

And a tap in the toilets.

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It was inevitable that the end of licensing would herald the end of ambition; and let's be honest a few Yorkshire clubs have been holding on for this opportunity. Belle Vue will get some new portaloos at best.

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Framing The Future anyone?

 

 

I seem to remember that the last round of discussions about certain clus entering SL were largely dismissed because of their poor facilities. Seriously, can someone remind me just how long wakefield have been promising to improve Belle Vue and, hence, justify their continuing presence in SL?

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It all needs knocking down. I can imagine that, because of where the houses are, it would be difficult to do the camera-side terrace during a playing season. They could fit a small covered stand similar to at Gillingham along there I reckon (hopefully terraced).

The "grand stand" could be similar to what Salford have, there's enough room. They're probably the two biggest steps the club would need to do first. The flats could serve a purpose until more capacity is needed, and the other end isn't too bad with the cover on it now.

Won't happen though!

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Wakefield need a half decent seating stand in place of the one they have now.

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