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Martyn Sadler

Premier Sports pulls out of the Championship

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Premier were not invited to discussions about showing the Championship in future seasons. You can hardly blame them for spitting their dummies. Appalling (mis)management by the RFL.

Without knowing what, if any, additional value the RFL were able to get by offering Sky what seems to have been a period of exclusive negotiation its impossible to know if it was mismanagement. That said I can see why Premier would decide to pull out.

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The RFL said a while back that they wanted rugby league on a single channel. That was always going to be Sky. I imagine the fact that Sky have picked Thursday for their SL matches, leaving Premier with a dreary Monday night slot might have been a factor. With the cost of broadcasting the matches against the additional subscribers they would have got for Monday night championship rugby! you can see why they have dropped it.

The Sky deal seems to have come out of the blue, and reports are that the RFL got a good price. That doesn't sound like mis-management to me.

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yep, your right but my comment was more about it being understandable they are pulling out of broadcasting championship... even if they are a little "rough and ready" it must be costly to broadcast against the amount of revenue it brings in. I would guess more RL fans subscribe for nrl rather than championship.

They are not pulling out of showing the championship they've been out bid by Sky. That's always a danger when you are recieving content for free.

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They are not pulling out of showing the championship they've been out bid by Sky. That's always a danger when you are recieving content for free.

they are pulling out this year when they have the rights.

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You're joking, right? For less than a tenner you get over 30 NRL games. 30p each. Why cancel?

who watches 30 games a month?

With Championship games on there i may have watched 2 games of rl on Premier per week. Now it is unlikely and I may cancel.

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The RFL said a while back that they wanted rugby league on a single channel.

 

That doesn't make sense as:

 

a. The Challenge Cup on BBC and internationals on the BBC and Premier Sports.

 

b. Competition is good from TV companies to get the best deal; BT's emergence will have fuelled this new deal.

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Given the service premier did for RL in world cup and enabling us to watch more than the England games and the abysmal treatment by Sky on the world cup.... I would say its a real kick in the face to premier...

Exactly right but sadly fairly typical of the RFL which is not an organisation well known for its communication skills.

 

I'm upset by this outcome as I have really enjoyed their coverage of the Championships and I think that coverage was important to the Championships too.  How will this affect Kingstone Press I wonder? 

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I'm upset by this outcome as I have really enjoyed their coverage of the Championships and I think that coverage was important to the Championships too.  How will this affect Kingstone Press I wonder? 

 

And other businesses who may have got involved in clubs due to TV exposure via Premier Sports? There are always second and third order effects from decisions, which people never really take into account...

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they are pulling out this year when they have the rights.

My fault I missed read the Sky website. I thought they were covering the championship this year but its from next year.

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And other businesses who may have got involved in clubs due to TV exposure via Premier Sports? There are always second and third order effects from decisions, which people never really take into account...

Absolutely.

 

Hopefully the RFL has heard Premier Sports and will now wake up and actually communicate with them.  I won't be holding my breath mind.

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The clubs received no payment for being shown and with it being on a minority subscription channel they wouldn't have increased their sponsorship much. Add this to the fact that clubs biggest games were moved to a Thursday night will mean as a fan of a championship club I won't be losing too much sleep over this. In fact I think this is great for the clubs at this level.

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The Sky deal seems to have come out of the blue, and reports are that the RFL got a good price. That doesn't sound like mis-management to me.

Putting your eggs in one basket is always mismanagement IMO.  They may be delieriously happy with the (£££ unknown) deal with Sky but to do that deal while entirely ignoring other partners is stupid in the extreme, especially one which has done so much for the sport as Premier has done, showing Championships (including C1), the Festival of RL world cups, college rugby league, Canada v USA, the NRL and a wonderful world cup.  How utterly crass of the RFL not to discuss the matter with them.

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The clubs received no payment for being shown and with it being on a minority subscription channel they wouldn't have increased their sponsorship much. Add this to the fact that clubs biggest games were moved to a Thursday night will mean as a fan of a championship club I won't be losing too much sleep over this. In fact I think this is great for the clubs at this level.

How do you know that Kingstone Press wasn't influenced by the Championships being shown on Premier Sports?  Kingstone Press DID pay money to the RFL for sponsorship and now their only avenue of TV exposure has been closed. Their deal ends in 2014. 

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How do you know that Kingstone Press wasn't influenced by the Championships being shown on Premier Sports? Kingstone Press DID pay money to the RFL for sponsorship and now their only avenue of TV exposure has been closed. Their deal ends in 2014.

I don't know. I posted my opinion.

The clubs get next to nothing out of this deal and play their big games on Thursday nights and therefore lose revenue as the crowds are never as big as a game on a Sunday / Saturday.

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The clubs received no payment for being shown and with it being on a minority subscription channel they wouldn't have increased their sponsorship much. Add this to the fact that clubs biggest games were moved to a Thursday night will mean as a fan of a championship club I won't be losing too much sleep over this. In fact I think this is great for the clubs at this level.

 

 

Well I don't, and I think that it is particularly bad for supporters of Championship clubs who will now have a SL or nothing offer from Sky for exorbitant prices or NRL and SoO from Premier at reasonable prices. In the meantime none of them will be broadcasting any Championship games which, for entertainment, were the equal of SL last year.

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Well I don't, and I think that it is particularly bad for supporters of Championship clubs who will now have a SL or nothing offer from Sky for exorbitant prices or NRL and SoO from Premier at reasonable prices. In the meantime none of them will be broadcasting any Championship games which, for entertainment, were the equal of SL last year.

Actually, as one who watched every Championship match on Premier Sports last season as well as almost every Superleague match I can confidently say that there were many times when the quality and entertainment of the Championship was far superior to that found in Superleague and the quality of the commentary was far superior to anything found on Sky.

 

I will sorely miss Premier's coverage AND the Championship matches. 

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Putting your eggs in one basket is always mismanagement IMO.

That doesn't make much sense.

If you could get £200m for one channel to have it all or much less for shared is that mismanagement? Is it heck.

In 2014 and beyond we will see RL on Sky, BBC and Premier - seems like they've done what you want.

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That doesn't make much sense.

If you could get £200m for one channel to have it all or much less for shared is that mismanagement? Is it heck.

 

That isn't what is happening though.  Firstly, in 2014 there will be no matches shown from the Championships.  Secondly, where does it say that we will enjoy a Championship game every week?  My guess would be that Sky will only show those Championship games which fall into the final period of the daft new system they have adopted when the fight is on for promotion spots.  And we won't see any Championship 1 games at all or any Canadian rugby league or college rugby league or random rugby league events that Premier opted to screen in addition to their contracted schedule.  For those of us who enjoy the world of rugby league, as opposed to planet Superleague, the loss of Premier Sports this season is a big loss.

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Set of nobs.

After world cup coverage what a u.turn.

Goodbye premier sports subscription

 

see post #10

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That isn't what is happening though. Firstly, in 2014 there will be no matches shown from the Championships. Secondly, where does it say that we will enjoy a Championship game every week? My guess would be that Sky will only show those Championship games which fall into the final period of the daft new system they have adopted when the fight is on for promotion spots. And we won't see any Championship 1 games at all or any Canadian rugby league or college rugby league or random rugby league events that Premier opted to screen in addition to their contracted schedule. For those of us who enjoy the world of rugby league, as opposed to planet Superleague, the loss of Premier Sports this season is a big loss.

Why cant premier sports still show Canadian RL and college RL?

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Why cant premier sports still show Canadian RL and college RL?

I'm not saying they can't, although they are less likely to having lost the Championships coverage as they won't have the RL team in place anymore (not necessary for the Canadian RL but they were the team in place for college RL and other UK based RL coverage).

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Why cant premier sports still show Canadian RL and college RL?

 

Given that they're committing to international RL and the NRL (and SOO) there's no reason at all.

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That isn't what is happening though.  Firstly, in 2014 there will be no matches shown from the Championships.  Secondly, where does it say that we will enjoy a Championship game every week?  My guess would be that Sky will only show those Championship games which fall into the final period of the daft new system they have adopted when the fight is on for promotion spots.  And we won't see any Championship 1 games at all or any Canadian rugby league or college rugby league or random rugby league events that Premier opted to screen in addition to their contracted schedule.  For those of us who enjoy the world of rugby league, as opposed to planet Superleague, the loss of Premier Sports this season is a big loss.

 

So, to clarify, the RFL should have turned down a rumoured 200m+ deal so that a small satellite channel could continue to show games for free?

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Pretty sure Premier showed the university rugby league before they ever started showing the championship games. Now, do I watch enough nrl to keep premier? ???

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Actually, as one who watched every Championship match on Premier Sports last season as well as almost every Superleague match I can confidently say that there were many times when the quality and entertainment of the Championship was far superior to that found in Superleague and the quality of the commentary was far superior to anything found on Sky.

I will sorely miss Premier's coverage AND the Championship matches.

premier sports cost championship clubs money showing games so for that reason alone it is great news plus now I don't have the prospect of having to go to a game on a Monday or Tuesday night

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