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According to todays League Express, the 2 teams who are relegated from SL this season will,in 2015, received funding from the RFL of £788,000 and £787,000 respectively.

 

The club that finishes first in the Championship this season will, in 2015, receive funding of £550,000 and the runners up will receive £500,000.

 

For the clubs that finish 3 - 12 in 2014, their funding for 2015 will range on a sliding scale from £200,000 to £150,000.  So a one place difference in the league makes a difference of £300,000.

 

All for one and one for all, eh?

 

And for interest ALL the clubs in Championship 1 will receive the grand sum of £75,000 each.

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excellent, back to parachute payments to reward failure and ensure theres an unfair playing field.

 

mind you cas/ giants/ reds and crusaders all stepped back up after their season slumming it in the northern ford premiership/ national league

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As also pointed out the probability of any club who finishes 3rd or below gaining promotion during the following season will be strictly limited.

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A little extra money may be available from the council for the club to develop the game locally. Sheffield have received £45,000 from the council and both have similar councillors. Can't hurt to ask around.

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A little extra money may be available from the council for the club to develop the game locally. Sheffield have received £45,000 from the council and both have similar councillors. Can't hurt to ask around.

 

i hope your being facetious lad because kirklees is all for Huddersfield and or council estates when it comes to handouts.

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The vast majority of clubs in the RFL appear to have received considerable financial support from their local councils in some way, shape or form over the years. Heck, some of them even had a whole new stadium built for nothing!

In contrast, Kirklees Council have never given either Batley or Dewsbury ANYTHING to assist with stadium development or other efforts. Why is this?

I realise full well that access to council funds is a privilege and not a right, however there's a real disparity here in terms of the attitude displayed by other local authorities to their sporting clubs.

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Due to the fact kirklees is giving all grant's to huddersfield town and huddersfield giants . Lets be fair about this both clubs have millionaire owners but yet stil keep getting handouts from the council .i believe its because kirklees council is based in huddersfield .

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So, the SL is stitching up our clubs again but let's blame it on Kirklees.

 

 

Just for information I don't believe that any council in the country is currently in a position to offer any real assistance to local professional RL clubs.

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£45,000 seems like real assistance to me.

 

It's not "assistance".

 

They buy in a service.

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I am sure that if there is any cash available in Kirklees Kevin will be aware of it. Although how this impacts on the distribution of funding by the RFL is beyond me.

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Sorry bsj didnt relise u were a member of kirklees council my mistake ???

 

 

I prefer to work on the basis of facts and logic. Sorry toffee i didn't realise that you can't do the same. My mistake.

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It's just my opinion, but I think restructuring is restructuring in name only. It does nothing for current championship and div 1 clubs. Now that SL relegated clubs are getting parachute payments they are going to be able to afford the top end of available players to enable their swift return thus creating an uneven playing field before a whistle is blown. Once the 2 SL's are split into the 8's the games become meaningless to me, less pointless than staying in the championship and having a GF to aim for. What are the plans for that anyway? We've got so carried away with talk of restructuring that we've lost sight of some of the things that clubs like Batley could, nay will, lose. We've already lost NRC this season, that cuts down championship clubs' earning potential in building for SL2, how will that fit in in 2015 and who will be allowed to enter it? How will Grand Finals be worked out when there are 4 divisions after a certain period in the season? Lots and lots of questions are still to be asked and answered before we all get carried away and think that all the game's ills have been cured.

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I'm not so sure. We get 90k at the mo from the rfl. Even doubling that amount will bring benefits to the club in some shape or form even if it means local lads who play for our club and put their bodies on the line get a bit more cash. I'm willing to give it a go and see what happens

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Once the 2 SL's are split into the 8's the games become meaningless to me, less pointless than staying in the championship and having a GF to aim for.

After the split in to 8's, will be the equivalent to the play off's and GF, so they will have far more meaning the than the league games in my opinion, certainly for the top and bottom groups of 8 anyway. For the 2nd group of 8, it will be a hiding for nothing for the 2 from our division.

 

In the Super League 2 (The 2nd tier of 12) Batley's division barring relegation this year, it will consist of 

2 Teams who will get £788k and £787k in funding.

2 Teams £550k and £500k

and the remaining 8 teams on £200k to £160k

 

So the top 4 of SL2 is decided before a ball is kicked, Which makes the league pretty pointless. As we already know the top 4 in our division the 2nd tier of 8 is also decided too. It will consist of the bottom 4 in SL1, where teams are getting £1.87M each, and the top 4 teams in our league, who will make up the middle group of 8 will get between £500k and and £788k. Means after the split in to 3x8's, the teams from our divisionwill have absolutely no chance of competing and winning anything in the 2nd tier of 8. It's going to be a joke competition.

 

If we finish in the bottom Group of 8, that's fine by me,  At least it will be a fair playing field for the 8 competing in our split with only £40k separating the top and bottom in terms of funding.

 

In a nutshell the second group of 8 will be like the current Batley or Dewsbury sides trying to compete week in, week out with teams like Hull or Catalan given the £1.3M disparity in funding. Good luck Fev

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Is all this 3 tier split system the real reason for scrapping the northern rail cup for the championship teams then??

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By the sounds of it, we will be no further forward or behind than we are now, but the prize money will increase, so whats the big hooha all about?

If we finish as runners up like we did last season, the £500,000 windfall would enable Batley to do all sorts to the ground and continue the progressive improvements.

Also the prize money on offer on the "sliding scale" will still be considerable more than any club below SL gets at the minute, so its win win as far as im concerned.

Add to that they havent decided how much TV money each club will get, and its not looking too bad.

The promotion and relegation thing was always going to be brought back and stacked heavily in favour of the existing 14 SL clubs.

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It's league positions BSJ, not Grand Finalists.  We finished 5th last year so if the positions are the same this year will receive approx £400,000 less than the winners.

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By the sounds of it, we will be no further forward or behind than we are now, but the prize money will increase, so whats the big hooha all about?

If we finish as runners up like we did last season, the £500,000 windfall would enable Batley to do all sorts to the ground and continue the progressive improvements.

Also the prize money on offer on the "sliding scale" will still be considerable more than any club below SL gets at the minute, so its win win as far as im concerned.

Add to that they havent decided how much TV money each club will get, and its not looking too bad.

The promotion and relegation thing was always going to be brought back and stacked heavily in favour of the existing 14 SL clubs.

Very true BTJ, we will be better off financially than we are now. So yes it is good news from that aspect. The problem comes when teams like us have to try and compete with the select few teams who have been handed 2, 3 or 4 times the amount of money that we have to build a team. 

 

Basically what would be required from our division, is for a team like Featherstone or Leigh to build a team good enough to finish 9th in SL as it stands, but to do it on a quarter of the money of the teams they are competing against.

 

One of the reasons I have liked our division over the years, is because it doesn't matter who you are playing, there is always a chance of going and get a result, like we did at Fev in the playoffs last year as a prime example. It is highly competitive and it doesn't matter how good clubs think they are, if they don't turn up on the day, they will get beaten.

 

My concern is, that competitiveness we have enjoyed over the years will be taken away and the rfl will create a similar environment to that seen in the Premiership at football and Super League. With same 3 or 4 teams fighting for the top spots every year and rest of us making up the numbers.

 

That is why the NRL works in Australia, all teams play on a similar footing so all teams has a chance of winning the title, and the competition for places in the Test team and State of Origin is so high. Players have to play at there best week in, week out to get results.

 

There are other aspects, but part of the reason British players are not at the same level as the Aussies, is because our best players only have to turn on the style maybe 6 or 8 times a season to ensure there team finishes in the top 4. The Aussies cannot afford that luxury. They have to be at the top of their game for maybe 20 weeks a season, because most teams in the NRL have a similar amount of quality throughout there ranks, so if they do not play well, they will not win anything.

 

The other major problem the new system will cause is, the Boom and Bust we saw in previous years with clubs overspending to have any chance of competing.

 

It's not looking good to me. 

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As people say the championship clubs will be financially Better than they are now. Come 2015 when the split comes at the end of the season I would say that if the bottom 4 of S/L drop with the top 4 of the championship it is to aim for the championship club to do there best and the 4 v 5 at the end of the 7 matches will be like a grand final as the winners will go into S/L. Also I am told that the salary cap for the championship is to be increased in 2015

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Why no one has asked the RFL to explain the prize structure is beyond me.

We can all see the thinking behind it, "reinstate P&R but keep the riff-raff on the back foot"

 

Similarly, why does no-one send a Freedom of Information request to Kirklees council asking them how much (if any) money has been ploughed into the Rugby League Clubs under its juistiction.

I imagine both responses would make for good reading.

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