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Seems DR Koukash has stated that he will withdraw his interest in the Lions if he doesn't hear from Salford Council by a week tomorrow according to a thread on the Lions family page.

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And if he doesn't hear is that it? The end? We don't start the season?

 

At least we'll know whether the council's concern has been sincere. And they've not just been playing to a gallery. They are politicians at the end of the day. Ever mindful of how they might be perceived by joe public.

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I for one fully agree with what Dr Koukash has said.It is high time for Salford Council to show their hand and state publically ONE WAY OR ANOTHER IF they support his plans or not.If they do support his plans,they should fight for them and do everything within the law to bring them to fruition ASAP,and yes I accept that they have to follow rules to the letter in order to win the good fight.And if they don't support his plans say so publically and why.As I said a few times,if they don't support his plans,that land will go to rack and ruin and will probably end up being a druggie haunt where the smackrats snort their coke or shoot heroin up their veins,and right on the doorstep of the Town Hall,do they REALLY want that?

I think(certainly hope)that Mark is right and Salford Council daren't say NO.The ball is now in their court.

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Its a Rotten Borough dominated by cast iron safe seats, thus they're all far more interested in the career politics agenda than worrying about how they are perceived by the public. Truth is, any chimp wearing a Labour rosette would win 90% of the seats within the City. There's no meaningful opposition. Its highly doubtful any councillor will truly believe their seat is under threat if the answer to Dr Koukash doesn't measure up.

Their line will be that its all central government's fault, I strongly suspect.

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To be fair doesn't look like the local authority have much say over planning.Just read on Counc Antrobus Twitter feed that central government have overturned Salford Councils decision to refuse permission for 100 new homes on green belt land at Boothstown.The homes will now be built against the wishes of the local community.

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Unfortunately Mark they dare and will.Salford council are all wind and p###. Prove me wrong Salford councillors do the right thing and bring back the Lions to there rightful home.

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I think they'll say yes

I don't think calling them names will help our cause and it doesn't matter if they're labour conservative or monster raving loony

WE NEED THESE PEOPLE ON SIDE.

Save the damnation till they've said no.

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Point is, is it time to get the banners and placards out, picket the town hall and at least vent our valid feelings towards those who should now be finally backing the club after idly watching from the sidelines as we drifted in the wilderness for more than two decades? After all, didn't the pinks' fans do much the same when they were pursuing their move to Barton some years back? I for one am sick of waiting and I suspect most other fans are too. We MUST do SOMETHING. We've all written our letters to certain councillors, some of which were never even acknowledged.

If any elements of Salford Council are reading this, may I politely suggest you finally GET YOUR FINGERS OUT and do the right thing for once in your lives, or God help you and the rest of us.

 

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I think they'll say yes

I don't think calling them names will help our cause and it doesn't matter if they're labour conservative or monster raving loony

WE NEED THESE PEOPLE ON SIDE.

Save the damnation till they've said no.

IF they have sense,they will say yes,but in my opinion sense and Salford Council are not words that go together.

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Its a Rotten Borough dominated by cast iron safe seats, thus they're all far more interested in the career politics agenda than worrying about how they are perceived by the public. Truth is, any chimp wearing a Labour rosette would win 90% of the seats within the City. There's no meaningful opposition. Its highly doubtful any councillor will truly believe their seat is under threat if the answer to Dr Koukash doesn't measure up.

Their line will be that its all central government's fault, I strongly suspect

Salford Council ALWAYS blames central government,and yes I fully support your comments about the borough,and I for one am ashamed to death of the fact that I was born in Salford because of the attiudes of this rotten to the core council.I should have been born at St Mary's instead but it was a bit too far from Boothstown.

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I was responsible for sending the tweet into bbc manc, I feel that the council needed to be pressed on the issue as they have a record of procrastination.  I honestly cannot think of a valid reason that they could say no but as other people have said they have absolutely no interest in what is right for the area you only have to look at the surrounding area around the town centre for evidence of that.  I will be very very surprised if they say yes to Dr Koukash, they probably would agree to it if it didn't involve us though.

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If I had to put my money on whether or not Salford Council will back Dr Koukash or not,I am afraid I would have to bet that they will say a resounding NO.I do not think that Salford City Council give a damn about Swinton RLFC or indeed Swinton itself as their agenda is to put one over Manchester at all times.I agree with Tim I see no reason as to why they could say no,I see no harm in a stadium holding 3 or 4 thousand being built(yes something would have to be done regarding parking etc,but that can be sorted out)I think that common sense should see these proposals being backed,but we all know that the words common sense and Salford Council do not go well together.I honestly think that Dr Koukash will carry out his threat and will walk away,and if that is the case then I for one would not blame him at all.I hope I am proved wrong.I want to be proved wrong.

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I think the Council are missing a trick if they can’t see the economic potential of getting the Lions back into the town centre. I can think of two fairly local town’s of a similar nature to Swinton - Prestwich and Chorlton that are bucking the national trend with town centres that seem to thrive. So it can be done despite the general picture. They no doubt have assets they’ve made work for them and Swinton has an asset all of its own-one of the oldest rugby and sporting clubs in the WORLD. With a bucket load of history and tradition. It wouldn’t be a cure all but just dobbing supermarkets on town centres is never going to be the only answer. On their own they’re just tomorrow's version of today’s run down precinct. It’s going take a combination of initatives. The original cricket club from whence the Lions grew must have been one of the oldest in the region but they’ve disappeared into the history books. That’s what can happen - a bit of our local sporting fabric lost forever.   MAKE YOUR HERITAGE WORK FOR YOU while you’ve still got it (just) .

Just a genuine statement of POSITIVE INTENT would be massive. It would encourage other potential investors if MK can’t take it any further. Sometimes i think this council sit back and bask in all the plaudits for Salford Quays ( well merited) but seem oblivious to the fact everywhere else is going to wrack and ruin. 

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I think the Council are missing a trick if they can’t see the economic potential of getting the Lions back into the town centre. I can think of two fairly local town’s of a similar nature to Swinton - Prestwich and Chorlton that are bucking the national trend with town centres that seem to thrive. So it can be done despite the general picture. They no doubt have assets they’ve made work for them and Swinton has an asset all of its own-one of the oldest rugby and sporting clubs in the WORLD. With a bucket load of history and tradition. It wouldn’t be a cure all but just dobbing supermarkets on town centres is never going to be the only answer. On their own they’re just tomorrow's version of today’s run down precinct. It’s going take a combination of initatives. The original cricket club from whence the Lions grew must have been one of the oldest in the region but they’ve disappeared into the history books. That’s what can happen - a bit of our local sporting fabric lost forever.   MAKE YOUR HERITAGE WORK FOR YOU while you’ve still got it (just) .

Just a genuine statement of POSITIVE INTENT would be massive. It would encourage other potential investors if MK can’t take it any further. Sometimes i think this council sit back and bask in all the plaudits for Salford Quays ( well merited) but seem oblivious to the fact everywhere else is going to wrack and ruin. 

I don't think this council frankly know or understand the meaning of economics.All they are interested in is getting one over Manchester.They simply do not care about places like Swinton,I think that Swinton RLFC can forget about Dr Koukash taking over and implementing his wonderful,ambitious plans for the club and the town,it is NOT the fault of Swinton RLFC and the new board,whom I wish the very best of luck to,it WILL be the fault of Salford Council for not backing Dr Koukash,a man who WANTS to invest in not only Swinton RLFC but the area as well,and to be frank and blunt if as I suspect this is the case,then maybe we as Swintonians will actually get what we frankly deserve thanks to the attiudes of the majority of those who do vote by blindly voting in Labour councillors time after time,regardless of what they do.

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The only thing Salford Council can do properly and in great abundance is to paste             

IN Salford anywhere and everywhere it can.

 

I'd absolutely love it if some brave local 'freedom fighter' fought back plastering an alternative slogan around S&P. And that slogan is.

 

IN Swinton & Pendlebury (IN Clifton too)

 

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Is it STILL so difficult to understand. By slagging off Salford councillors on this site you are just damaging the campaign not assisting it. You may have strong feelings and that is your right but if you approached your Dad and said "buy me a new bike you tight fisted b#####d" you most likely would get something else.

For goodness sake, pipe down till after the decision, please!

This is directed to a number of posters, no one in particular!

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Indeed as Loyalion has suggested, a little calm and patience is required as constant sniping is not helpful as the council have processes that need to be followed, which may involve central government too.

As yet the council have neither confirmed a yes nor a no.

Therefore it is wrong to assume that simply because we have yet to hear the 'yes' we all want hear, that it automatically means 'no'.

I suspect also that Dr K also knows this and he is not seeking a firm and full 'yes' to everything by next Friday as we would be aware that this is impractical, but is seeking some progress.

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I am getting worried now following on from this thread, according to DR MK last week it is D-day tomorrow for this takeover of the mighty lions and we have heard nothing. I am doing some serious praying today and tonight we hear something positive,

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Same old, same old. No information given. The Marwan takeover looks dead in the water else why dual reg all the Warrington players ?

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why does the Marwan takeover look dead? the club in its current leadership and ownership have to carry on planning for this season as the takeover would come too late for the start of the season, and where would leave the club?

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We have no choice but to press on determinedly under the assumption of no takeover. We can't budget or make plans based on assumptions or hopes. When Salford Council or Dr Koukash announce something definite we'll re-evaluate the situation. In the meantime we have a fully functioning re-stabilised club, with a team, coaches, back-room staff, various excellent volunteers, and a well-run fans' Trust. The club fights on, although of course naturally we want to be back in M27.

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