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We have no choice but to press on determinedly under the assumption of no takeover. We can't budget or make plans based on assumptions or hopes. When Salford Council or Dr Koukash announce something definite we'll re-evaluate the situation. In the meantime we have a fully functioning re-stabilised club, with a team, coaches, back-room staff, various excellent volunteers, and a well-run fans' Trust. The club fights on, although of course naturally we want to be back in M27.

 

Total sense as usual from SW

 

"...naturally we want to be back in M27"     Too true we do folks

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Financially I wonder how the club are going to continue without significant investment. Looking at the potential crowd size I can't see how the club can both rent a ground and pay players. One or the other must be getting peanuts.

 

I hope that the club has its sums right for 'plan B'and isn't spending more than it can afford - it's been down that road many, many times before. 

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So Gandalf

 

We hope to see your Trust membership in the post very shortly. If you are already a member I apologise but if not it would be good to see your support for the club by the form of a membership.

 

 

Thanks

Riggy

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Also Gandalf a tremendous amount of work is going on behind the scenes by the trust committee and other volunteers to raise monies for the club,all this hard graft is being done voluntary.I am running a sixties disco at the Swinton legion on 15th March 7pm to 12am.The sixties music as been chosen with it's association with the great Lions team of that era.tickets will be £10 with all proceeds going to the club.Even if your not into sixties music come along and soak up the atmosphere. I will do my best to make it a great night for all and I want as many of you as possible to turn out and fill the place and raise much needed capital for the trust. Even if you can't attend why not buy a ticket, as I have said ALL proceeds go to the trust. So Gandalf are you on for some tickets

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Hang on what's this about ? Is it now have a pop at anyone who doesn't say everything's wonderful with Swinton ? I asked a reasonable question and get smart ass holier than though answers.

 

Thanks for that and you wonder why few people give a monkeys about the Lions. Don't worry I won't be posting again so you can carry on with your love in.

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Popping at who? Riggy asked you to join the trust.I brought to your attention the great work the trust are doing to raise the finances to keep the club viable, so whats your problem? I will put a question to you are you a genuine LIONS fan? If yes than why not become involved in helping to bring a bright future for the LIONS.

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Woah there! He may be a member already, Riggy stated that he didn't know!

Gandalf1, I think your last bit about the 'Plan B spending' in your post raised a few hackles there. I'm sure that the lads in command are doing their sums and have worked out what exactly we can afford, based on the premise that nobody with any financial clout comes in to 'raise the spending bar'!

In the trust we trust!

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The more people that join the trust the better. We have about 110 members so there are still a lot of people out there that if they joined could really help the club.  All the trust are doing are trying to keep the club alive.

 

Riggy

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I said I wouldn't post again but now I'm absolutely livid. I've no idea who you are Glengarry but you typify all that's wrong with the few remaining swinton supporters - who are you to question who is or is not behind the Lions ?

 

I spent a lot of my time and money both organising and supporting trust events in the past. Whether someone is or is not a member of the trust is not a measure of whether they follow Swinton or are there really only 110 supporters left ?

 

Swinton have one of the smallest supporter bases in the game - most amateur teams could boast more. Let's alienate the few supporters left eh - People's Front of Judea or Judean People's Front ?

 

Good luck Glengarry with your supporter recruitment drive.

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Also Gandalf a tremendous amount of work is going on behind the scenes by the trust committee and other volunteers to raise monies for the club,all this hard graft is being done voluntary.I am running a sixties disco at the Swinton legion on 15th March 7pm to 12am.The sixties music as been chosen with it's association with the great Lions team of that era.tickets will be £10 with all proceeds going to the club.Even if your not into sixties music come along and soak up the atmosphere. I will do my best to make it a great night for all and I want as many of you as possible to turn out and fill the place and raise much needed capital for the trust. Even if you can't attend why not buy a ticket, as I have said ALL proceeds go to the trust. So Gandalf are you on for some tickets

. Isn't £10 a bit steep?

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Yes Dave I think they are,but they have been set by Sue Buckley and Barbara Cathcart. I'll have a word and see if we can get them lowered.

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I said I wouldn't post again but now I'm absolutely livid. I've no idea who you are Glengarry but you typify all that's wrong with the few remaining swinton supporters - who are you to question who is or is not behind the Lions ?

 

I spent a lot of my time and money both organising and supporting trust events in the past. Whether someone is or is not a member of the trust is not a measure of whether they follow Swinton or are there really only 110 supporters left ?

 

Swinton have one of the smallest supporter bases in the game - most amateur teams could boast more. Let's alienate the few supporters left eh - People's Front of Judea or Judean People's Front ?

 

Good luck Glengarry with your supporter recruitment drive.

it would seem that your mind is already made up about the Lions.

also, i take offence to you having a go at every remaining Swinton fan. Who are you to question us?

what would you have us do? Give up? No, you're alright, we'll crack on supporting the Lions in whatever way we can.

thanks for playing.

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And who exactly are you to question me ? Jog on..

 

And thanks that finally settles it - not a brass farthing of mine will go to the Lions again. Cheers.

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My name is not hidden, white wizard.

your name remains unknown and so would suggest a penny has never left tour pocket in the direction of the Lions.

and please don't tell me to jog on. This is a forum, my opinion is just as valid as yours.

my comment still stands, what would you have us do?

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I said I wouldn't post again but now I'm absolutely livid. I've no idea who you are Glengarry but you typify all that's wrong with the few remaining swinton supporters - who are you to question who is or is not behind the Lions ?

I spent a lot of my time and money both organising and supporting trust events in the past. Whether someone is or is not a member of the trust is not a measure of whether they follow Swinton or are there really only 110 supporters left ?

Swinton have one of the smallest supporter bases in the game - most amateur teams could boast more. Let's alienate the few supporters left eh - People's Front of Judea or Judean People's Front ?

Good luck Glengarry with your supporter recruitment drive.

All your posts have had a hugely negative slant the cumulative effect being you got a bit of stick

There are plenty of us still want the best for our club and won't give up

Join in.

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I wasn't going to reply to your comments Gandalf1 but your attack on the loyal lions fans can,t go unanswered. At no time have I or anybody else popped off at you as you call it. You asked about plan b if Dr Koukash lost interest and Itried to explain the hard work that the trust were doing to keep Swinton a viable concern and also askedwould you like to become involved even if it was just buying tickets for the disco nothing more or nothing less. So why you should lash out at myself and the rest of the loyal fans for that I am at a complete loss. To make sure that Swinton continue to have a future the club needs the support of ALL our fans to raise the capital to sustain  the LIONS and there are a lot of people on this forum that are more than willing to do this instead of slagging off the fans why not join us and make Swinton a stable and prosperous team once more.

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I think it is safe to say that Dr Koukash will NOT be taking over Swinton lions either now or at any time in the future so I think that any planning for the future will obviously have to be done without him at the helm and the benefits it would have brought not just to Swinton RLFC but indeed the town itself,and lets face it the town NEEDS investment(and ASDA,and for that matter a stadium is not the magic wand but is a part of the answer/solution)URGENTLY as it is declining rapidly.This is going to be difficult and all credit has to go to the trust and those who still go for continuing to fight the difficult fight.

And thank you Salford Council for NOTHING,YOU MAKE ME FEEL ASHAMED TO DEATH OF BEING BORN THERE.SALFORD COUNCIL YOU WILL NEVER KNOW HOW MUCH I AND OTHERS DESPISE YOU.

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I think it is safe to say that Dr Koukash will NOT be taking over Swinton lions either now or at any time in the future so I think that any planning for the future will obviously have to be done without him at the helm and the benefits it would have brought not just to Swinton RLFC but indeed the town itself,and lets face it the town NEEDS investment(and ASDA,and for that matter a stadium is not the magic wand but is a part of the answer/solution)URGENTLY as it is declining rapidly.This is going to be difficult and all credit has to go to the trust and those who still go for continuing to fight the difficult fight.

And thank you Salford Council for NOTHING,YOU MAKE ME FEEL ASHAMED TO DEATH OF BEING BORN THERE.SALFORD COUNCIL YOU WILL NEVER KNOW HOW MUCH I AND OTHERS DESPISE YOU.

Rob we don't know yet

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Rob we don't know yet

Maybe nothing has officially been said but in my eyes I think that the decision has been made by the local council not to support the plans,and that they were never going to support the idea of a stadium being built in Swinton for Swinton RLFC to move into.There is more chance of Manchester United winning a trophies with that dick of a manager Moyes in charge than Swinton RLFC coming home.

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Maybe nothing has officially been said but in my eyes I think that the decision has been made by the local council not to support the plans,and that they were never going to support the idea of a stadium being built in Swinton for Swinton RLFC to move into.There is more chance of Manchester United winning a trophies with that dick of a manager Moyes in charge than Swinton RLFC coming home.

 

Until Dr K annouces that he's out, then it should be safe to assume he's in, the council have to remain neutral so can't comment on speculation.

 

It's been said before, but slagging them off is not likely to help the cause, we're hoping to positively influence the councillors to make the favourable decision.

 

Good things come to those who wait...

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I'd like to think that as Dr Koukash had given the council an ultimatum to hear from them for last friday, and there as been silence from both parties since could be a positive sign that both parties are still in talks.So lets keep our fingers croosed that all is well and the Dr is satisfied with the signs that are coming from the council.

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People need to be patient .Timing is everything. Could be that the council are hanging back -waiting to see how things pan out down at Barton with Salford's relaunch and Sale's jitters and waiting for the opportune moment to make a commitment.Barton could still be a major financial headache and embarrassment for them. They view all this stuff in a different way to the rest of us because they're always playing to the gallery. They've had a huge amount of stick throwing money at Salford whilst having to make some unpleasant cuts at the same time. What Swinton want ultimately is an asset that has a monetary value  . If Salford start looking like a success that might make it easier for them to justify giving the Lions a lift.  A shed load of money seems to have vaporised but if the 'investment' seems to be paying off then it will make them more minded to help. So perhaps were going to have to be secretly willing the pinks on for the time being. Their advancement and our advancement could be linked

 

Either ways they were never going to be quick about this - even if they were going to put the mockers on it right from the word go they wouldn't because that would make for terrible politics. It would make them look partisan and discriminating and open them up to more criticism.  They were always going to drag it out regardless.

That said thus far the council have not given anyone sufficient grounds for givin' em both barrels. Yet!

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