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"Money no object" - Cameron

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When the Calder Valley floods it only affects three under-achieving rugby clubs.  ;)

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When the Calder Valley floods it only affects three under-achieving rugby clubs.  ;)

Halifax, Dewsbury ans Wakefield

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Halifax, Dewsbury ans Wakefield

None of which are in the Calder Valley

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When the Calder Valley floods it only affects three under-achieving rugby clubs. ;)

There are no rugby clubs of either code in the Calder Valley

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There are no rugby clubs of either code in the Calder Valley

Dewsbury and Wakefield are on the Calder, Halifax is in Calderdale

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Isn't the 'money no object' line just standard government policy in relation to events such as this? It's nothing new. Emergency relief and repair comes from central government, whatever the cost, councils just claim it back.

Saying it the way he has is just nice spin.

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Isn't the 'money no object' line just standard government policy in relation to events such as this? It's nothing new. Emergency relief and repair comes from central government, whatever the cost, councils just claim it back.

Saying it the way he has is just nice spin.

That may be, but the line certainly wasn't trotted out when it did flood here in Hebden Bridge. Can't afford it was the view then.

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Yes austerity meant we had to cut budget to save money. Looks like the budget cut to the EA was a false ecomony.

Save a pound now spend 10 pounds later

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Dewsbury and Wakefield are on the Calder, Halifax is in Calderdale

but none of them are in the calder valley which lies to the west of Halifax.

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Yes austerity meant we had to cut budget to save money. Looks like the budget cut to the EA was a false ecomony.

Save a pound now spend 10 pounds later

I didn't realise that the EA had the power to control the wind, the rain and the waves.  Wow.

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I didn't realise that the EA had the power to control the wind, the rain and the waves.  Wow.

It doesn't, however it does have the power to deal with the consequences, or it did when it was properly funded.

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It doesn't, however it does have the power to deal with the consequences, or it did when it was properly funded.

She knows that shes trying to score cheap points

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I would say that Heath RUFC and Old Rishworthians RUFC are in the Calder Valley ... they are east of Halifax but at the foot of steep valleys and their fields are on the banks of the Calder.

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I would say that Heath RUFC and Old Rishworthians RUFC are in the Calder Valley ... they are east of Halifax but at the foot of steep valleys and their fields are on the banks of the Calder.

Heath is at West Vale Elland and Rishworthians at Copley both on the river agreed, but neither can be classed as Calder Valley.

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It doesn't, however it does have the power to deal with the consequences, or it did when it was properly funded.

 

 

Like it was in 2007?  .The EA s job isn't to build walls round everything and its never had enough money to do that in any case.   To what extent does personal responsibility play a part.  Live in the Somerset Levels? Guess what?  When it rains it floods. Always has, always will. 

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Like it was in 2007?  .The EA s job isn't to build walls round everything and its never had enough money to do that in any case.   To what extent does personal responsibility play a part.  Live in the Somerset Levels? Guess what?  When it rains it floods. Always has, always will. 

 

Also, lost amongst all the criticism of the EA is this unchallenged (as far as I know) nugget: since December just shy of 6,000 'premises' have flooded.  A fair estimate for the number of same saved by flood defences: 1.3m. (Source: Press Association)

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That may be, but the line certainly wasn't trotted out when it did flood here in Hebden Bridge. Can't afford it was the view then.

Money no object refers to money spent on emergency relief.  If the council in Hebdon Bridge had set up an evacuation centre or troops sent in, then the costs for that come under 'money no object'.  It's the same for every council for any number of events.

 

It does not cover long-term flood protection.

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Money no object refers to money spent on emergency relief.  If the council in Hebdon Bridge had set up an evacuation centre or troops sent in, then the costs for that come under 'money no object'.  It's the same for every council for any number of events.

 

It does not cover long-term flood protection.

 

That's as maybe with regards to long term protection, there is still however now a commitment that funds will be available for support to prevent short term damage though, such as sandbags. I don't recall that level of support being made available in Hebden Bridge, or anywhere else that has suffered catastrophic flooding in the recent past however. I don't begrudge the support being offered at all; I've seen first hand the damage that flooding can do, and was very fortunate not to suffer more damage to my own home in 2012. I do however feel that in such scenarios that any assistance should be on an equitable basis.

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Tbf the number of people who live in the Calder valley is quite different to the Thames valley and the size of the rivers is different as well.

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The floods have finally hit the Tory heartlands in the Thames Valley

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/david-cameron/10631777/David-Cameron-money-no-object-for-flood-relief.html

Hebden Bridge was flooded twice in the summer of 2012, apparently when floods hit the Calder Valley, money is an object.

 

Money is always an object and sometimes it is a transitional object!

There has been quite a lot of money spent on flood prevention works in the Calder Valley. There have also been calls for dredging of the river.

 

Taking into account the topography and the canalisation of the Calder, it is no real surprise that it floods in periods of sustained very heavy rain.

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There are no rugby clubs of either code in the Calder Valley

 

Not since the demise of Todmorden RL and the tragic swamping of Calder Valley Lions RL in 2009.

 

Phil, I guess you'd say Halifax Vandals play just outside the Calder Valley. Where is the eastern limit of the Calder Valley do you reckon?

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The Calder appears to join the Aire at Castleford at the Aire and Calder Navigation locks, near Lock Lane. Is that correct?

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Like it was in 2007?  .The EA s job isn't to build walls round everything and its never had enough money to do that in any case.   To what extent does personal responsibility play a part.  Live in the Somerset Levels? Guess what?  When it rains it floods. Always has, always will. 

Wasn't me who said "money is no object" John it was your fuehrer.But let's face it when there were problems in 2007, the last government learned some lessons and spent some money, this one cut the spending for £670m to £500m in the name of austerity.  When the problems hit they dithered and blamed one another (that's this government's way after all - blame someone else)  Cameron flew into Somerset last week, looked at the floods and said "all Labour's fault" and flew out again.  Pickles blamed Paterson, they both blamed Chris Smith. It was only when Chris Smith said that he could only do what funding permitted and the safe seats in the Thames Valley were threatened that Cameron suddenly remembered a few billion quid he had in his back pocket that he'd been saving for the General Election. From being on the brink of bankruptcy, he suddenly decided they UK is one of the richest countries on the world. What a surprise.

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