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Catalan - What has gone wrong and can they go down?

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Didn't see this one coming. As someone who travels to see them play once a year I would be gutted if they went down, but after their shocking show yesterday, I think they must be in serious risk of the drop. I know they have a few injuries and they lost Mr Menzies, but relegation, really?

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Most of the players don't trust the coach. Some others aren't fit. They don't have "soul" anymore.

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They have lost 4 out of 4 and yes it could happen. However, I think as little as 6/7 wins (or 12/14 points) could be enough to stay up this year so plenty of time.

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I think the problem is the coach to be honest.

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When Hyy Wg raised the issue after the Cas game, I thought it was an overreaction and posted so, but if Wakey can put over 50 on them including 32 unanswered points in the first half, then things don't look good. 

 

At the moment they've only played one home game and that was against a very good Leeds side and their next game is also away at Saints.   I suspect and hope that their home form will save them; we'll have a better idea in May when they will have played a few home games against the likes of Hull KR, Salford, Widnes and London.

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We don't know what will change this team (our team!) this year. I'm not against foreigners at all (Henderson and Whitehead are very very very great players, we need them) but i think some of them killed the thing. 

When you play for the only one French club in SL, you must not be joking around because relegation would be fatal for us. I'm really really angry with Webb and Lima because they're not even wanting to play the game, they're just too poor to be playing serious at the time. I'm angry with Taia and Pryce not bringing the talent they should have. I think Oldfield is a bit useless as we have some great quality wingers in France (thinking about Clément Soubeyras and Quentin Nauroy, probably unknown to you but full of talent). 

I feel fouled by Ben Pomeroy, coming here injured and taking the Jean-Philippe Baile place for no reason.

Louis Anderson is depressed, nothing to say about that, sh*t happens sometimes.

But i'm angry with some French players too, i'm not blindsinded. Elima and Bousquet are p*ssing me off, Jamal Fakir should learn how to catch a ball, Mathias Pala should have more time cutting his beard than in the field practicing ...

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We don't know what will change this team (our team!) this year. I'm not against foreigners at all (Henderson and Whitehead are very very very great players, we need them) but i think some of them killed the thing. 

When you play for the only one French club in SL, you must not be joking around because relegation would be fatal for us. I'm really really angry with Webb and Lima because they're not even wanting to play the game, they're just too poor to be playing serious at the time. I'm angry with Taia and Pryce not bringing the talent they should have. I think Oldfield is a bit useless as we have some great quality wingers in France (thinking about Clément Soubeyras and Quentin Nauroy, probably unknown to you but full of talent). 

I feel fouled by Ben Pomeroy, coming here injured and taking the Jean-Philippe Baile place for no reason.

Louis Anderson is depressed, nothing to say about that, sh*t happens sometimes.

But i'm angry with some French players too, i'm not blindsinded. Elima and Bousquet are p*ssing me off, Jamal Fakir should learn how to catch a ball, Mathias Pala should have more time cutting his beard than in the field practicing ...

 

Good post. Elima should be the rock around which the entire Catalan and French side is built, but instead he seems to have become a bigger and bigger tantrum-thrower as his career has progressed.

 

The signing of Webb was always a bad idea, they should throw money at him to leave.

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The fixture scheduling on Catalans with four out of the first five being away, does seem unfair. It must also be demoralising for the players to have so few travelling supporters.

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They could stand being in this new "middle eight" but relegation ?  I doubt they could hack that financially.

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The RFL wanted jeopardy, this is one of the potential consequences. Im assuming , of course, that they fully considered the prospect of losing both London and Catalans from SL....

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Good post. Elima should be the rock around which the entire Catalan and French side is built, but instead he seems to have become a bigger and bigger tantrum-thrower as his career has progressed.

 

The signing of Webb was always a bad idea, they should throw money at him to leave.

They are missing Casty big time this season as well as other important players due to injury. Can they go down ? well yes of course and that would probably be the death knell for the club...Pity as so much has gone into building the club and the fanbase from almost zero.

Would changing the coach make a difference ? Possibly but surely David Waite has to step up and get the club out of this mess at least for the short term. This is becoming reminiscent of the last days of Walters. Trent and importantly fitness coach Keegan Smith transformed the club and  similar action seems to be the only realistic chance Catalan Dragons have of getting through this. 

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The RFL wanted jeopardy, this is one of the potential consequences. Im assuming , of course, that they fully considered the prospect of losing both London and Catalans from SL....

That's maybe something they actually wanted. Get rid of the "useless" Broncos and the "Why us?" French.

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I went to the game yesterday and after about 20 minutes the game was effectively over for them and it was just about all down to Brent Webb.

By the time he was pulled it was too late. Getting rid of him would be the best thing they could do.

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Presume all these away games are at the fans request. Perpignan is a great weekend but not so in feb and march. Going with Hull KR for easter weekend...after the Big Derby!...but any earlier would be too cold.

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"Breaking" news : Jamal Fakir has been dropped into the reserve team until the end of the season and Brent Webb is on the same way.

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"Breaking" news : Jamal Fakir has been dropped into the reserve team until the end of the season and Brent Webb is on the same way.

Doesn't the French comp (Catalan Reserves) season end soon?

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Injuries and the Coach Laurent Frayssinous was not a great choice.

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Pryce can play anywhere, Bosc is a pure standoff.

 

Play Bosc.

Move Pryce to loose forward or fullback and make him captain.

 

Sorted.

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They're going mad on the French forums calling all the foreign players! They're not happy fakir has been sanctioned! He's been rubbish for years, had 5 good games before his contract was up and got a new one,

The French players aren't doing any better than the foreigners or showing more commitment!

Apparently Webb is having medical tests before they make a decision on him and maybe paea is being sacked too, as for Lima he's trying, he was gutted after the Leeds loss and so was pryce, being in a night club on a Saturday night after a Friday game doesn't really shock me!

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Not at all Barnyia! Everybody knows that Fakir is not the player he once was but everybody says that he's not the man to drop. He only plays 20minute/game, dropping him won't "heal" the team.

I really don't like the player but FFS just don't say that he's the main problem. Webb and Paea should go, Lima should step up or go joking around in another team.

 

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What are your thoughts on Dureau? Granted he has some horrible luck in terms of health and fitness recently, should the club be keeping him or pushing the likes of Barthau to come through and partner Pryce/Bosc?

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I don't see him performing if there's not Keegan Smith/another awesome physical preparator. Given the fact that he's targeted by others players as he's physically weak, I don't think we'll see him a day as good as he was once.

Bosc and Pryce is gonna retire in a few years and we will need others halfbacks there. But we don't even know if the club is gonna get through this season...

 

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The fixture scheduling on Catalans with four out of the first five being away, does seem unfair. It must also be demoralising for the players to have so few travelling supporters.

I remember a couple of years ago Catalans requesting this, so that they would get more away fans going to the south of France in summer

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No real mention of their self destructive disciplinary record yet, surely the suspensions incurred due to the fact that the likes of Elima are acting like thugs on the pitch haven't helped?

 

I'd put a lot of this down to weak leadership at the top though.

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