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Not read the whole thread, but I nominate Jaws. Its garbage.

Cannot agree. The whole suspense and lack of a modern day type gorefest marks this out as a classic.

The subsequent films were poor.

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Most of Liam Neeson's back catalogue

Everything Tarantino's done since Pulp Fiction

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The new Robocop film has seen the previous one being held up as a classic of cinema. I do not remember it that way. Shawshank Redmeption made people happy, but I do not understand the classic status at all.

Robocop is a much cleverer film than it was given credit for at the time. You should perhaps watch it again.

The same is true of Starship Troopers. Verhoeven's films are actually quite subtle and complex under the flashy hype.

Personally, I find Shawshank to be a really satisfying watch. It's not some groundbreaking work of art, but it's an enjoyable and uplifting few hours.

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Shawshank Redemption, The Big Lebowski, The Dark Knight

If you don't like The Big Lebowski you have no soul.

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Lord of the Rings

Inception

Argo

Lord of the Rings is a crime against cinema.

Not seen Inception.

Argo was okay. Certainly worth a watch.

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Robocop is a much cleverer film than it was given credit for at the time. You should perhaps watch it again.

The same is true of Starship Troopers. Verhoeven's films are actually quite subtle and complex under the flashy hype.

Personally, I find Shawshank to be a really satisfying watch. It's not some groundbreaking work of art, but it's an enjoyable and uplifting few hours.

The film Starship Troopers was so far divorced from the book they were almost unrecognisable but there were enough things in there that if you did know the book then you'd get some satisfaction.  It's also down to the mindset you have when watching it, if you're just watching to be entertained and don't care about minor issues then it's hugely enjoyable, if you watch it with a critical viewpoint then you're going to hate it.

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Most of Liam Neeson's back catalogue

Everything Tarantino's done since Pulp Fiction

 

Everything Tarantino has done since Reservoir Dogs.

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Re Tarantino

Kill Bill 1 had some really interesting scenes, as in making a live action Manga, but as a film it was quite poor. Jackie Brown worked very well as homage to blaxploitation pictures, although there were too many white people in it. The rest has been a considerable deterioration from his first two pictures.

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Kill Bill 1 had some really interesting scenes, as in making a live action Manga, but as a film it was quite poor. Jackie Brown worked very well as homage to blaxploitation pictures, although there were too many white people in it. The rest has been a considerable deterioration from his first two pictures.

 

That's my fundamental issue.  Reservoir Dogs didn't require a knowledge of any other film to enjoy it although there were clear nods, references etc if you were interested enough to look. Pulp Fiction is okay but it's starting to get into that territory of "I've thought of a good line, better make a scene work around it" and overt referencing.  After that ... I can understand why film and comic buffs enjoy the ride but I'm not sure why anybody else does.

 

The only film I've ever walked out of was Natural Born Killers which, at the time, it was cool to like but seems to have drifted off the radar a bit now.  I'm mostly in the cinema for kids films at the minute which means I have the opposite: I go in expecting to be moderately entertained and get a nice surprise when it's better than that.  Recently, Frozen and The Lego Movie have been properly brilliant and a while back I was stunned to find that the Tintin film was massively under-rated.

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Cannot agree. The whole suspense and lack of a modern day type gorefest marks this out as a classic.

The subsequent films were poor.

Not only is Jaws an excellent film, but it even has an ex-Rugby League international in it! :D 

 

As for the post about Daniel Craig-era Bond films, I've tried on more than one occasion to watch Casino Royale, but it just doesn't grab me at all. 

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That's my fundamental issue.  Reservoir Dogs didn't require a knowledge of any other film to enjoy it although there were clear nods, references etc if you were interested enough to look. Pulp Fiction is okay but it's starting to get into that territory of "I've thought of a good line, better make a scene work around it" and overt referencing.  After that ... I can understand why film and comic buffs enjoy the ride but I'm not sure why anybody else does.

 

The only film I've ever walked out of was Natural Born Killers which, at the time, it was cool to like but seems to have drifted off the radar a bit now.  I'm mostly in the cinema for kids films at the minute which means I have the opposite: I go in expecting to be moderately entertained and get a nice surprise when it's better than that.  Recently, Frozen and The Lego Movie have been properly brilliant and a while back I was stunned to find that the Tintin film was massively under-rated.

I've never walked out of the cinema during a film, but I did fall asleep during the first Lord of The Rings film. I think if you took the battle scenes from the three movies and put them together you'd have a decent 2 hours of fighting to go with some popcorn, the rest of it was dog poo. Natural Born Killers was always a poor movie, but it got so many people wound up with outrage that all the cool kids simply had to fall in love with it.

 

It's interesting to see how kids movies have developed. I don't know anyone who didn't cry watching Up.

 

As for overrated movies, I'd go with anything by Lars Von Trier. The man's an egotistical tw*t who makes films that claim to shake people but actually just fulfil his own desires as an egotistical tw*t. His characters do the offensive things he would love to do, but doesn't actually have the guts to carry through.

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Blade Runner.

 

If you're referring to anything other than the original voiceover version I will hunt you down and kill you like the replicant you and I both are.

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If you're referring to anything other than the original voiceover version I will hunt you down and kill you like the replicant you and I both are.

I had no idea what the hell was going on other than it was dark and rained a lot.

 

And I was referring to the extended final definitive anniversary directors limited edition.

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Not only is Jaws an excellent film, but it even has an ex-Rugby League international in it! :D

 

As for the post about Daniel Craig-era Bond films, I've tried on more than one occasion to watch Casino Royale, but it just doesn't grab me at all. 

Having sat through The Spy Who Loved Me yesterday I'm going to take issue on this. Bond is quite simple to break down -

 

Sean Connery was brilliant, as were the films. George Lazenby was poor but the film is better than you expect. Roger Moore was awful and the films just as bad. Timothy Dalton had potential but the films themselves weren't great. Pierce Brosnan started well with Goldeneye but went downhill very fast (an invisible car!) and became little more than one long advertising vehicle. Daniel Craig is very, very good. Not only does he carry the physical side of it, just like the books, but he's also a top notch actor. Casino Royale is a great Bond movie, the second one has good ideas but is patchy due to the writers strike, and Skyfall is everything a Bond movie needs to be. It also has the delightful Naomie Harris.

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And I was referring to the extended final definitive anniversary directors limited edition.

 

Hmmm...  was that the Remastered Special (Final) Second Edition?

 

Either way.  I'm after you.  I just have to boff this rather sexy robot first.  And walk in the rain.

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Hmmm...  was that the Remastered Special (Final) Second Edition?

 

Either way.  I'm after you.  I just have to boff this rather sexy robot first.  And walk in the rain.

*Yakety sax*

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Having sat through The Spy Who Loved Me yesterday I'm going to take issue on this. Bond is quite simple to break down -

 

Sean Connery was brilliant, as were the films. George Lazenby was poor but the film is better than you expect. Roger Moore was awful and the films just as bad. Timothy Dalton had potential but the films themselves weren't great. Pierce Brosnan started well with Goldeneye but went downhill very fast (an invisible car!) and became little more than one long advertising vehicle. Daniel Craig is very, very good. Not only does he carry the physical side of it, just like the books, but he's also a top notch actor. Casino Royale is a great Bond movie, the second one has good ideas but is patchy due to the writers strike, and Skyfall is everything a Bond movie needs to be. It also has the delightful Naomie Harris.

Daniel Craig is an excellent actor, but something about his Bond films just isn't clicking with me.

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Thanks to this thread, over the next week or two I'm going to dig out a couple of DVDs of films I thought I should see, which I bought years ago but have yet to watch. These are Apocalypse Now, Platoon and Raging Bull. And maybe throw in one or two I've seen only once which are Born on the Fourth of July and One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest.

 

Finally, Nothing to Lose for good measure.

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I really like 'Apocalypse Now', but can see why many don't. The extended 'Redux' version adds nothing much.

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