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Hornets Shares Held By The RFL

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TS

 

When Hornets reformed after the old company went bust, was there not an opportunity then to get rid of Hornets should that be our great masterplan?

 

I'd have assumed, and it is only an assumption, that when relaunching Hornets, they had to approach the Stadium Company and ask them if they could play at Spotland, as there wasn't any legal reasons entitling them to do so. Therefore, even at a time where relations between football and rugby were at their lowest given the cash owed to the Stadium Company by the old Hornets, there was no attempt to block Rugby League from continuing at Spotland (unless you know better than I do) because it is on our best interests to have you here. 

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I can understand people being worried and interested in the sale of the RFL shares in Spotland but claiming it'll be the end of Hornets is a little bit hysterical IMVHO.

 

Hornets are merely tenants at Spotland at the moment and as/when the RFL sell their shares in Denehurst Park Ltd we will continue to be tenants, unless you actually believe the conspiracy theories of being priced out or forced out of Spotland some other way.

 

As CD says above the Dale had ample opportunity to boot out the new Hornets in 2009 even before we moved in, why would they kick us out now?

 

Why would they make things so difficult for us that we would be forced out?

 

We pay rent and despite what some on the Dale forum would have you believe nothing is overdue or unpaid for.

 

Even if the RFL didn't put covenants and agreements in the sale the Dale aren't daft enough (even if one or two of their fans are) to forgo the £60K rent and profits from the bar and catering etc.

 

I suppose some might be worried about a doubling of the rent or refusing to let the spotlights be used or some other fanciful conspiracy theory but that would force Hornets out and they'd lose the rent money. Sorry not going to happen.

 

Don't forget the Dale are not just buying the RFL's share but also the council's and I very much doubt that they'll agree to a sale with out legally binding agreements  and assurances from the Dale.

 

I'm not overly worried. Whitehaven next.

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I am amazed at the response on this subject.

26 comments. There are 14 responses about which ref we have next. Has no one a comment to make.

If we are not careful we could end up ground sharing at Whitebank with our dear neighbours.

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There are no comments because there is no new information yet. I'm afraid we will just have to wait and see. There are a few things bouncing around in my head which I will share with you on Sunday Doug.

 

Kind Regards

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How ironic Big Doug. Whitebank is a disgrace to the game, Spotland is a great stadium and without the sale of the athletics ground would be a shadow of what it now is.

670k debt does that include the building costs carried out on the stadia since the sale of the athletics ground? if so that does not seem a great concern.

Plan B could be a rugby league centre of excellence on a smaller scale than Leigh Sporting Village and shared by Hornets and Oldham. The Kingsway development hugging the 62 would be ideal.

I do believe Hornets would eventually be priced out of Spotland, with stewarding costs and Hornets historical low fan base. I really hope if the RFL goes down this route they do not accept a ten year lease that would soon pass.

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More news in the Observer about assets of community value (ACV) of which the Spotland Ground is now registered as, for interested parties who are not members.

 

Members are already in receipt of this information

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In all honesty a friendly game Hornets V Hunslet being postponed having any effect on the underlying issues is absurd to say the least.

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To be perfectly frank I think the Dale board should be more worried with the usual plummet in form as Dale get close to any success!  Last time they were promoted they were streets ahead and proceeded to show relegation form until they eventually dragged their backsides over the line in third place.  As it stands Dale must end up in the play offs at least but they shouldn't chance their arm in that lottery.  If they get 2 more wins from the 4 remaining matches they are automatically promoted but at the moment only the truly committed should bet the farm on that horse!

 

A suspicious person might be wondering given recent findings ........well you get my drift?!?!?!?

 

I still hope for the best for the fans that pour money in year after year.

 

Pugwash.

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To be perfectly frank I think the Dale board should be more worried with the usual plummet in form as Dale get close to any success!  Last time they were promoted they were streets ahead and proceeded to show relegation form until they eventually dragged their backsides over the line in third place.  As it stands Dale must end up in the play offs at least but they shouldn't chance their arm in that lottery.  If they get 2 more wins from the 4 remaining matches they are automatically promoted but at the moment only the truly committed should bet the farm on that horse!

 

A suspicious person might be wondering given recent findings ........well you get my drift?!?!?!?

 

I still hope for the best for the fans that pour money in year after year.

 

Pugwash.

If someone had posted that about Hornets, it would have been deleted within seconds. You're an intelligent man Puggy, so there's no need to gloat because we've lost our second game in two months, and to suggest that something sinister is going on. 

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You have got me completely wrong there Col, I always look out for Dales's results and so far this season I've been happy to see them coasting along but you know what happened a few seasons back they had a disastrous run of defeats which included, if I'm not mistaken, a particularly heavy defeat at the bottom of the league?!?!?

Now let's look at facts.

Dale 270+ without scoring, 2 points from 9 and a board that one month is trying to part company with their top scorer and then try to splash cash on the RFL's shares. Were you happy at the decision to allow Hogan to leave, and just happy that the guy refused, I was!

I can't afford o watch Dale as well as Hornets but in all other resects I am a Dale fan. My son was a mascot one freezing January night and my brother flew in to watch the play-off final from Canada and returned the day after. Many years ago my brother was chair of the Supporters Club and ran the coaches to away games. Those heady days of the games with Leeds and Wednesday seem a long way off at the moment!

I'll try to make this patently clear, I not only want Dale to go up I want them to stay up and prosper. I hope that's clear!

Pugwash.

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I just noticed this quote from the football club chairman in todays Observer. " The football team are the only good news in Rochdale at the moment. Everything you hear about the town seems to be bad. Football is something that is putting a smile on peoples faces ".

I can tell him that Hornets winning the play off final put a smile on my face that I've still got. Our start to the new season caused a few grins as well. Maybe he should get out more.

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Absolutely TS, when you cast your mind back to the tail end of last season with our great finish which concluded with us beating Oldham twice and being crowned play-off champions and achieving promotion in doing so.  Then the unqualified success of the World Cup tie completely selling out and the whole thing running like clockwork on the night. 

 

Couple the above with what is now looking like a realistic chance of putting a good run in the Championship and the future as well as the recent past is looking exceedingly bright.

 

Long may it continue!!

 

Pugwash.

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