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17/04/14 - London Broncos v Catalan Dragons KO 8pm

London V Catalan   10 members have voted

  1. 1. Who will win?

    • London Broncos
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    • Catalan Dragons
      8
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London will win one soon. But not this one. Sacre bleu's all round.

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If your in the area there plenty of reasons to come to Canons Park and back the Broncos:

 

Firstly, in the grand tradition of RL messageboards, if there is a record low crowd you will be one of the loyal few who were there and will be able to post confident in the knowledge that you were actually at the game and not one of posers claiming to have been there.

 

Secondly, There will be a low print run on the Broncos Programme (all profits to  London Broncos) so you will have a collectors item.

 

Thirdly, Come on you really want to know the score don't you and what better way to find out than be there in person.

 

Fourth, This is probably the last season of professional rugby league south of Wakefield so make the most of it.

 

Finally, the Broncos are going to win.

 

Why the optimism, we know the problems the club has, we know on paper this is the weakest squad in all Super League, but games are not won on paper, and it's time for the players and what remains of the Loyal and Loud to aim up for what is a most winnable game. There a general conviction across both codes in rugby that the French do not travel well and its remains to be seen how they handle a chilly subbuteo style stadium on a spring evening in Harrow.

 

A win changes everything, from the players energy levels, gives the fans renewed hope and will change the general ambiece of the club and I for one would hate to see the club dissapear without a fight on the field. So putting whatever remains of my tattered credibility on this messageboard on the line I confidently predict - Broncos by 2.

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If your in the area there plenty of reasons to come to Canons Park and back the Broncos:

 

Firstly, in the grand tradition of RL messageboards, if there is a record low crowd you will be one of the loyal few who were there and will be able to post confident in the knowledge that you were actually at the game and not one of posers claiming to have been there.

 

Secondly, There will be a low print run on the Broncos Programme (all profits to  London Broncos) so you will have a collectors item.

 

Thirdly, Come on you really want to know the score don't you and what better way to find out than be there in person.

 

Fourth, This is probably the last season of professional rugby league south of Wakefield so make the most of it.

 

Finally, the Broncos are going to win.

 

Why the optimism, we know the problems the club has, we know on paper this is the weakest squad in all Super League, but games are not won on paper, and it's time for the players and what remains of the Loyal and Loud to aim up for what is a most winnable game. There a general conviction across both codes in rugby that the French do not travel well and its remains to be seen how they handle a chilly subbuteo style stadium on a spring evening in Harrow.

 

A win changes everything, from the players energy levels, gives the fans renewed hope and will change the general ambiece of the club and I for one would hate to see the club dissapear without a fight on the field. So putting whatever remains of my tattered credibility on this messageboard on the line I confidently predict - Broncos by 2.

1. There will be more than the 500 who bothered in Paris in 1997.......and it's hardly a reason in itself.

2. The "miniature" programmes never sell out...and again, not a reason in itself.

3. I will fight for NZ bandwidth for radio commentary thanks. 

4. Hmmm....anything that gives Hughes an inkling he's done the right thing is, in my eyes, a waste of time. If I lived in London I'd probably be there though, but as a RL fan I'd have no issue with championship RL next year.

Finally. You keep on saying it sunshine.....maybe one day you'll get lucky,

 

Catalans by the bookies 20...attendance 873

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I wont be there , got a job to do. Don't really care now if they win or loose. Broncos never really tapped into the potential support here in London. The M62 jokes will abound. What is wrong with this great game that makes the ESL  whims of Idiots make it look foolish?

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What's going to interest me isn't the margin of the Catalans' victory, but whether the gate's higher than Crusaders- Rochdale on Friday. Incidentally, Red Rooster, don't you mean full-time RL in London? Forgotten the Skolars?

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Might pop along. Not sure though. I would like to see them at some point this season

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Attendance 1,002 - dreadful but seeing as it is at home vs Catalans it's better than might have been feared.

 

A close game tonight. Didn't watch it. Was listening to the Hull derby. Does anyone who went to the game care to comment? Are Broncos getting better? They weren't all that bad against Wigan last week.

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It's not often you walk away from a Broncos game to hear fans saying how enjoyable the game was. However they showed a lot of resilience to be in a position with ball in hand inside the 10m to almost snatch a 28 28 draw with the last play of the game. Lots of positives to take away from the game. If they can learn how to defend their line resolutely, then they will win some games this season. The fans though low in numbers were outstanding in vocal support and wit. Sample songs were "the (league) table's upside down" and "We all want a team of Atelea Vears, Atelea Vears, Number 1 Atelea Vear, Number 2 Atelea Vear, Number 3 Atalea Vear" etc

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It's not often you walk away from a Broncos game to hear fans saying how enjoyable the game was. However they showed a lot of resilience to be in a position with ball in hand inside the 10m to almost snatch a 28 28 draw with the last play of the game. Lots of positives to take away from the game. If they can learn how to defend their line resolutely, then they will win some games this season. The fans though low in numbers were outstanding in vocal support and wit. Sample songs were "the (league) table's upside down" and "We all want a team of Atelea Vears, Atelea Vears, Number 1 Atelea Vear, Number 2 Atelea Vear, Number 3 Atalea Vear" etc

Good to hear. Broncos are probably doomed to relegation but they aren't necessarily doomed to the scrapheap. The manner in which they go down will probably determine their fortunes in the Championship. Some good, battling performances with local players (and Dixon hasn't played for them yet this season) will do them a power of good.

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Hoped you popped a tenner on.

Unfortunately not. I sometimes take the handicap bet which was plus 20 last night,but havent done so since

the Castleford fixture..If its plus 40 against Hull monday I may have a punt.

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What a strange game that turned out to be. Catalan were totally in control for 70 mins until putting the cue on the rack,

or imploding,call it what you will. They were far more dominant making plenty of yardage per set of six, invariably busting the

first tackle and even in contact the forwards were gaining a few more yards.

It was all looking pretty straight forward for them easily seeing off our 5 drives and a kick option.

As ever the Broncos were not taking a backward step but simply arent to the level of the opposition despite all there heart.

For the first 30 mins of the second half as my pal was saying it appeared more akin to a friendly.

Still credit to Broncos for keeping on going and taking the chances following late Catalan errors.

As regards the crowd announced as 1002, Who are they trying to kid.

 

One other thing,really thought the ref Mr Leatherbarrow whatever his name is had a good game.

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I'm disappointed given how close it was and how poor we were for 70 odd minutes. The first half was dreadful, simply couldn't complete a set and dropping balls near the line. After Vea had a bit of biff, it seemed to lift the team and Vea was definitely feeding off the crowd. Just a shame we couldn't get over on the last play. If we play like we did in the last 10, I don't see why we can't spring a surprise at the KC, but only if we play like that. 

 

The fans though low in numbers were outstanding in vocal support and wit. Sample songs were "the (league) table's upside down" and "We all want a team of Atelea Vears, Atelea Vears, Number 1 Atelea Vear, Number 2 Atelea Vear, Number 3 Atalea Vear" etc

 

Yeah, it was good to see fans in other sections singing. Vea was the man yesterday, he got the crowd going by himself. "Atelea Vea, he does what he wants"

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First off let's deal with attendance sceptics, the figure announced is correct for it is AK and Barnet FC's money. "The Rugby League calculator" went into the skip along with most other things Bronco in September. All the regular "faces" from the Stoop (even gutterfax's pal in his Harlequins Trilby) were there last night.

 

The game I have to view as two points lost. if someone takes the OPTA stats from the game then in terms of possession the Broncos had plenty and were able to turn the ball over from Catalans before either knocking on themselves or getting pushed into touch. We looked like a championship side in the last 10 metres from the opposition try line where we seemed devoid of any ideas save a short pass to an oncoming forward and some aimless kicking on the last tackle early in the second half. The Third and Fourth Catalan tries conceded were very soft indeed and as Bosc brought his kicking boots with him this time, including two touchline efforts which proved decisive. Broncos composure was lacking and TBH for about 65 minutes I would have gien them B+ for effort and E for execution.

 

The atmosphere was flat even amongst the loyal and loud at that point 4-28 down until someone at last showed some composure after one of the interceptions were had been trying for all evening came off and the forward had the nous to hold on and passd to Mason-Caton Brown. 10-28 and this started off a mock conga at the bottom of the West Stand a conga that grew more serious being joined by Mr Rammond & company as the Broncos got a roll on and what Castleford had done to London in the last match London were doing to Catalans, but this was a revival just a little too late with the Hooter going with us inside their 10 metre line.

 

Positives , Defensively it was a better effort . Atelea Vear who adorned the front cover of the programme is a becoming a fan favourite and is Super League quality another wise recruitment choice from Sniffer who is a good judge of talent and has the contacts. We did demonstrate at the end we can play a bit.

 

Negatives, if you look at the side Catalans put out and the match stats I still think this is two points that went begging.

 

1. There will be more than the 500 who bothered in Paris in 1997.......and it's hardly a reason in itself.

2. The "miniature" programmes never sell out...and again, not a reason in itself.

3. I will fight for NZ bandwidth for radio commentary thanks. 

4. Hmmm....anything that gives Hughes an inkling he's done the right thing is, in my eyes, a waste of time. If I lived in London I'd probably be there though, but as a RL fan I'd have no issue with championship RL next year.

Finally. You keep on saying it sunshine.....maybe one day you'll get lucky,

 

Catalans by the bookies 20...attendance 873

 

There must have been some great team talks going on in the dressing room when you were with London Irish.

 

I think the fans know  we are the worst team on paper in Super League. We are the underdogs in each game but

 

It's not the size of the dog

It's the size of the fight in the dog

 

We need a positive attitude on and off the field. Now I agree with you about Hughes and Kleanthous and the deal for the Hive. However the coaching and playing staff wearing the old horses head deserve our support. As long as they are having a dig each game that will do for me. 

 

What's going to interest me isn't the margin of the Catalans' victory, but whether the gate's higher than Crusaders- Rochdale on Friday. Incidentally, Red Rooster, don't you mean full-time RL in London? Forgotten the Skolars?

 

While I have the greatest respect for the off field management at the Skolars. On the field they are the classic example of why organic growth will never work but that would be a separate thread.

 

 

Good to hear. Broncos are probably doomed to relegation but they aren't necessarily doomed to the scrapheap. The manner in which they go down will probably determine their fortunes in the Championship. Some good, battling performances with local players (and Dixon hasn't played for them yet this season) will do them a power of good.

 

I think we are going to win a few games this year whether it's enough to avoid relegation is another matter but the way in which the club performs from now on is crucial because the big question for next year is finding another Owner. If the RFL are serous about wanting a presence south of Sheffield then they should be approaching potential owners such as Bradford's; rejected suitor from London and saying "if you want to get into RL ownership then this is the club for you. As IFL has shown if your club has a vacancy at chairman you can go for it but you will have the experience of running a RL club beforehand."

 

Quiet moves are already underway following the restructure to build a club - and a proper supporters club - once the last vestige of the ancient regieme departs at the end of this season. Investing in London gives you two massive pluses.

  • First off you have the whole junior production line in the south
  • Secondly last nigt proved there is a core fanbase in the south that will increase once the Club shows signs of lie on the field. Truly "it's the only game in Town"

SKY would prefer, not demand, prefer that their Rugby League competition is more geographically spread so even in the Championship for a limited time you will get TV exposure greater than that of the other clubs for a winning team.

 

Its not conventional P&R that's on offer and IMO the club will have a maximum of two seasons to get back into the elite before it degrades to the extent that the club will never come back. But there is the opportunity for the right investor to come in and bulid a club that might not just be the saving of the game south of Sheffield but long term the game itself in the northern hemisphere.

 

The stakes are that high . Let us hope the RFL is looking and that someone or group is interested.

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The hilarity that met the announcement of the crowd size spoke volumes Red Rooster.

Then again the announcer struggled all night when it came to figures.

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The hilarity that met the announcement of the crowd size spoke volumes Red Rooster.

Then again the announcer struggled all night when it came to figures.

Mainly because the white numbers are so difficult to read against the striped shirt.

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There must have been some great team talks going on in the dressing room when you were with London Irish.

 

They were passionate team talks where areas for improvement were always discussed, nobody was blamed for anything that had gone before and we all played for the club, the badge and our team mates......we also played for fun, cos as much as I wanted to have a desk job at ICI, I had a pub to run! ;)

 

I would suggest that after reading the male genitals blurted out by TR in his post match musings, that I could do the pre-match team talk via SKYPE from NZ, whilst ###### at 3am and still get a better response from the team.

My personal favourite this week has to be this Gem:

 

 

"But if we keep improving and progressing week by week we will definitely get where we want to be."

 Where's that Tony? The Championship?

 

London currently need to win 3 games to have a chance of staying up.......if you think there's 3 wins in this side you need your head looking at. As for the crowd of 1,002......you are alone in your belief that there were that many in attendance. I've seen an insane claim of 200.....but the consensus from others there was between 600 and 800. Cleanthehouse can claim his Barnet FC Members were there at no risk of extra tax......and because he's being paid by the RFL to market the game, he needs to show that they're getting VFM. This weeks marketing expenses involved a few travel cards for Buck and Dusty and some volunteers..... :jester: ...he counted all his members in that 1,002.

 

I hope that Hull FC are suffering a hangover on Monday, because we are 1/3 of the way through our fixtures and have a deficit of points +/- that equates to another loss and after them, we have Huddersfield who have about 7kgs a man on us across the squads and St Helens who will tear us to shreds before we get another crack at the French.

 

As for investment moving forward? The club will have 1 chance to get back up next year........the survivor of Wakey/Bulls will be the weakest team in SL, with maybe Salford under Harris in the mix too......the trick will be getting rid of Tony Rea and given St David of Swinton's refusal to accept any form of advice, that's not happening. The club will be lucky to make the mid 8 in 2016 (if they exist at all).

 

.....Oh, as for London Irish. At least they had the good sense to reject Jamie O'Callaghan when he trialled there last year.......it's taken Rea 1/3 of the season to smell the coffee on that players defensive frailties.

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So apart from you doing a Rob Powell, Please answer these two questions.

 

Which Coach is going to put his credibility on the line to take the London Job ?

 

And just how would he make this massive difference in the sides performance bearing in mind the players at his disposal and the fact that the chairman is not putting any furher money in ?

 

A word of warning about AK who is a quarrelsome fellow who may not take kindly to being accused of announcing falsified figures. Unless you are willing to back up you claim about the attendance his lawyers could be meeting you on the tarmac at Heathrow..

 

Has it ever occurred to you that the constant stream of negativity appearing chiefly from yourself but also "South Wales Crusader" on here, RL Fans and Facebook acts as a disincentive for any potential investor reading these forums with the RL calculator being used to knock hundred's off the attendance and a side that is described as being unable to beat an egg,  Why would anyone want to put money into a club whose own fans describe it in such a manner ?

 

Especially since David Hughes is not puting any more money in, as evidenced by London's lack of activity in the transfer market and Gus Mackay's comment at the fan forum that the club was funded on SKY money, the £ 30K from SELCO and "Whatever David Hughes chooses to give us" Without Hughes funding, Gus said life would be very difficult for the club as we saw in September. Gus own departure was also "to ease pressure on the salaries budget" .

 

You may claim you call it as you see it. I am in the UK and actually do see it

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So apart from you doing a Rob Powell, Please answer these two questions.

 

Which Coach is going to put his credibility on the line to take the London Job ?

 

And just how would he make this massive difference in the sides performance bearing in mind the players at his disposal and the fact that the chairman is not putting any furher money in ?

 

A word of warning about AK who is a quarrelsome fellow who may not take kindly to being accused of announcing falsified figures. Unless you are willing to back up you claim about the attendance his lawyers could be meeting you on the tarmac at Heathrow..

 

Has it ever occurred to you that the constant stream of negativity appearing chiefly from yourself but also "South Wales Crusader" on here, RL Fans and Facebook acts as a disincentive for any potential investor reading these forums with the RL calculator being used to knock hundred's off the attendance and a side that is described as being unable to beat an egg,  Why would anyone want to put money into a club whose own fans describe it in such a manner ?

 

Especially since David Hughes is not puting any more money in, as evidenced by London's lack of activity in the transfer market and Gus Mackay's comment at the fan forum that the club was funded on SKY money, the £ 30K from SELCO and "Whatever David Hughes chooses to give us" Without Hughes funding, Gus said life would be very difficult for the club as we saw in September. Gus own departure was also "to ease pressure on the salaries budget" .

 

You may claim you call it as you see it. I am in the UK and actually do see it

 

1. Tony Rea has delivered nothing of note as a RL coach since the play-off team of 2005. Not sure about you, but 9 years later he's delivering little if anything on the pitch, his post match musings are inane and he really doesn't seem to come across as anything other than going through the motions........ Replacing him is key because he has thus far overseen 43 SL matches and delivered victories in 9 of them. Replace him with whom you say? God knows, but something needs to be done and done fast, because if this side go down winless this year, they'll have become used to that sensation by the time visits to Fev/Fax are on the cards.

2. This year is shot, so I care little for the difference a new coach would bring this year on the pitch. Off the pitch, wholesale changes would need to be made, including making hughes declare now what he intends to do moving forward. the man has gone from hero to cancerous growth.....his ego is killing the club..his refusal to accept either advice or the fact that he has made multiple mistakes have killed this club......I said it at the end of 2008 when he played chicken with the RFL, claimed he'd won but actually lost....he hasn't a clue and no amount of money flushed down the loo will change that.

 

As for my negativity? You try and be positive when the RFL and the one time owner of the club tell you that you are 100% spot on, but the idiots running the club ignore you anyway and run the business into the ground.

 

As for new investors? I would say that Gus MacKay presiding over 6 million in losses over 3 years on a turn over of 12 million does far more to put them off than the musings of a fan 12,000 miles away.....oh, and on that point. I don't need to be there to see the ###### the club has turned into. It's hit rock bottom and the only way is up, but we need to remove some of the dead weight holding us back...including Hughes an Rea.

 

Lastly. Cleanthehouse. I say the attendance on Thursday was less than 1,002......as to many people who were there. I doubt he'd want to open a can of worms......and if he does, he can do so at his place on September 13th

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GF in not missing an opportunity to run down the Broncos shock.

Surely there is another way to spend time?

How about this - as such a big fan of the club and the game, how about a couple of top tens?

What are your top 10 London games and why? What are the top 10 things you love about our great game? 

I just can't wait - anyone who knows for certain how many people are in a place 12000 miles away in the middle of the night must have some wonderful insights into the greatest game.

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