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This Weekends Results - 3rd/4th May

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London Prem League

 

Eastern Rhinos 22 - 24 West London Chargers

Hemel Stags A 20 - 25 London Skolars A

St Albans Centurions 44 - 20 Staines Titans

 

 

 

 

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I understand that Elmbridge failed to show at Beckenham and ditto Esher at Newham. If true then not a great start,

 

Sussex defeated Medway 32-30, or something similar.

 

Sussex also hosted an enjoyable Master festival, which saw South London Storm retake the field!

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It would seem as though no D1 games were played yesterday.  To be honest, every team seemed to be low on numbers.

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Nottingham Outlaws 'A' 62 North Derbyshire Chargers 6

Some very lop sided scores in the Midlands Prem.

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Aberdeen Warriors 52  Glasgow Panthers  18

Aberdeen Warriors Development 66  Glasgow Panthers 2nds  10

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Some very lop sided scores in the Midlands Prem.

Agreed, but all playing all fixtures on a bank holiday.... never done that before!

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Agreed, but all playing all fixtures on a bank holiday.... never done that before!

 we had 20 players but quite a few new ones playing league for the 1st time and Birmingham were a lot quicker and wiser

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The Chargers have pretty much had to start again for the 4th time in 6 years - until we get some continuity we're never going to be able to develop.

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With the second round of the London Cup only ten days away, does anyone know if the draw has been made, or if not, when it will be?  Cheers.

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Why don't the Chargers merge with the Hillsborough Hawks, this has to be better than rebuilding every other year?

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Why don't the Chargers merge with the Hillsborough Hawks, this has to be better than rebuilding every other year?

 

As far as I can tell, Hawks are not greatly more stable or successful than the Chargers. It's way too far for people to travel to Hillsborough from somewhere like Alfreton, especially for training getting through Sheffield - I know, I tried it. If the Chargers didn't exist the players are more likely to go South to Nottingham or Derby.

 

It's quite disappointing as a long time supporter of RL in Sheffield that after 25 years there is only one amateur club in the city with only 1 Open Age side. I know "football is king" in the city but with that size of population and the community work by the Eagles over the years you'd expect a much more vibrant amateur scene.

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Milton Keynes won the East 9s competition last weekend at Bedford. The final against Bedford was pretty close going into extra time where MK won on a golden point try...

 

Decent hit out for Kings Lynn in the tournament reaching the semi finals and beating last year's East Premier Division Champions North Herts in the process. A mixed competition for myself setting up most of team's tries but got carried off in the semi having been severely dazed by an elbow or shoulder to the head... resulted in an A&E visit with headaches and a swollen jaw; thankfully nothing fractured and fit to resume in a couple of weeks!

 

North Herts for Kings Lynn this weekend at their place... tough hit out first game of the season!

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With the second round of the London Cup only ten days away, does anyone know if the draw has been made, or if not, when it will be?  Cheers.

 

The London draw is on the London RL website and the East draw is on the East RL website

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Milton Keynes won the East 9s competition last weekend at Bedford. The final against Bedford was pretty close going into extra time where MK won on a golden point try...

 

Decent hit out for Kings Lynn in the tournament reaching the semi finals and beating last year's East Premier Division Champions North Herts in the process. A mixed competition for myself setting up most of team's tries but got carried off in the semi having been severely dazed by an elbow or shoulder to the head... resulted in an A&E visit with headaches and a swollen jaw; thankfully nothing fractured and fit to resume in a couple of weeks!

 

North Herts for Kings Lynn this weekend at their place... tough hit out first game of the season!

GS how does the Eastern Premier compare with say London & SE one. I remember John Evans's South Norfolk side in the early days of the SRLC. Great to see now so many regions have decent 6 team set-ups.

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the East draw is on the East RL website

 

On that note, just checked the East RL website; Bedford Tigers at home for us... nearly beat them in the 9s last week but 13-a-side a different proposition. That said, we turned over St Ives at the same stage last year so should be a good game at North Wootton.

 

GS how does the Eastern Premier compare with say London & SE one. I remember John Evans's South Norfolk side in the early days of the SRLC. Great to see now so many regions have decent 6 team set-ups.

 

To be honest Audois, not sure as I have never played in the London/SE area. I'd imagine it would be a step down though. There are some good players in the Eastern area but most are RU players playing in the off-season so playing against more experienced league sides would probably get stuffed. It's the hardest thing for us at Kings Lynn trying to re-teach people basics and how to play RL rather than RU... frustrating at times but there are clearly some good lads in the team and this is replicated across the division in my opinion. The key is getting the game played in the local schools but without any outside assistance through development officers and Super League clubs etc, it isn't going to happen.

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GS how does the Eastern Premier compare with say London & SE one. I remember John Evans's South Norfolk side in the early days of the SRLC. Great to see now so many regions have decent 6 team set-ups.

London premier is stronger but mainly because 3 of the best east amateur sides play out of region in the London premier.

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London premier is stronger but mainly because 3 of the best east amateur sides play out of region in the London premier.

What a load of rubbish!

The only reference can be last years Harry Jepson quarter final between Chargers & Crusaders - which Chargers won at a canter 36 - 12

Rhinos finished 4th in 2013 London Premier & Hemel 'A' 5th

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North Herts are a good side but London Premier has more strength in depth. The gap's not what it was though as last time Bedford stepped up they really struggled

Remember London Premier is as much an East league as a London league. It probably has the wrong name but a lot depends on what format the CL South ends up with as it currently doesn't cover the midlands, SW and Wales. Could the London Premier be built up (with the addition of good clubs in east and SE leagues) to sit parallel to the CLS on the pyramid or will the better London Premier clubs eventually join the CLS?

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With the addition of the London Div 1 this year (albeit a rocky start) the future must be exactly what you suggest Bowes.

A CL South equivalent that sits over London, East & South East based primarily around London Premier with the addition of 1 or 2 teams each from East & South East.

10 teams - 18 games, probably a good 3+ years away but should be the focus for the future.

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Why don't the Chargers merge with the Hillsborough Hawks, this has to be better than rebuilding every other year?

As a former Chargers player, coach and club founder, I'm probably in a good position to answer this.....

There'd be absolutely NOTHING to be gained from what you suggest and almost everything to lose.

Hawks are centrally located in Sheffield and have a large population to draw upon. I hope they can make this work from again.

Chargers are based in a very different location and, being based near the M1, can draw players from an area spanning south Sheffield, Chesterfield, NE Derbys and Mansfield. This has worked really well with the juniors, particularly since the decision was made to move some teams into the Yorkshire league.

At open age level the Challenges are different. The travel in Midlands Prem was certainly an issue last year and I was surprised to find several North Derbyshire based lads being 'bussed in' by one club we played at but c'est la vie....

There are things that could perhaps make life easier for the open age team but merging with an inner city team based 15 miles away isn't one of them.

As for the kids, maybe one or two would commute to Hillsborough but the rest would be lost to the game.

The big thing that I suspect would help both clubs would be for the RFL to take a much stricter line on granting academy/scholarship licenses.....

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As far as I can tell, Hawks are not greatly more stable or successful than the Chargers. It's way too far for people to travel to Hillsborough from somewhere like Alfreton, especially for training getting through Sheffield - I know, I tried it. If the Chargers didn't exist the players are more likely to go South to Nottingham or Derby.

 

It's quite disappointing as a long time supporter of RL in Sheffield that after 25 years there is only one amateur club in the city with only 1 Open Age side. I know "football is king" in the city but with that size of population and the community work by the Eagles over the years you'd expect a much more vibrant amateur scene.

 

Really? National Conference? NL3 champions? Pennine League Premier through Pennine division 4 Champions? South Yorkshire Champions? Pennine Cup winners? Very good youth system and set up? 7 teams currently running? Over 40 players currently in The Sheffield Eagles youth set up, academy, Hallam Eagles and 1st team. I'd say that was pretty stable and successful fella.

 

However, my point was that The Chargers are rebuilding and the Hawks have a young side, but still to gain quite a few players and both sets of players together could make a real good team -  A Team that could probably compete higher than both clubs are currently playing. Alfreton to Nottingham or Alfreton to Derby isn't that much nearer than Sheffield Tim, probably around 10 minutes. It wouldn't be the worse thing that could happen.  

 

In a city like Sheffield, we should have so many more players but for some reason, we cant seem to expand our beautiful game! I know The Eagles swallow up a lot of the good players but I still cant see any reason why we could have more teams within the City, but it does need addressing otherwise amateur RL in Sheffield will be short lived.

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A more logical merger would be Sheffield Hallam Eagles and Sheffield Hillsborough Hawks. But needs a change in NCL rules on dual registration before they can rejoin.

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Really? National Conference? NL3 champions? Pennine League Premier through Pennine division 4 Champions? South Yorkshire Champions? Pennine Cup winners? Very good youth system and set up? 7 teams currently running? Over 40 players currently in The Sheffield Eagles youth set up, academy, Hallam Eagles and 1st team. I'd say that was pretty stable and successful fella.

NL3 and top of the Pennine was a long time ago and it's not that long ago that the mens' team couldn't fulfil its fixtures. If anything the historical success points to a gradual decline. The junior setup is good and should be generating enough players by now to have 2 sides - actually the fact that so many Hawks players are in the Eagles setup could be related to the strength of Hawks Open Age - it seems that quite a lot of players enter the pro ladder (not just Sheffield, everywhere) and get spat out and lost to the game. Flor me there should be no need to have a separate Hallam Eagles side. It should be part of a seamless transition for Hawks players to go from junior to Open Age, playing either at National level (if they are good enough) or in a second team playing regionally and most importantly stay connected with their community club.

As Rob said, sending your players to play in any team 20 miles away is not a real solution.

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The fact that so many Hawks players are signed by the Eagles probably says more about the Eagles than it does about the Hawks. It probably also explains why such a long-established club seems so unstable.

It's odd that in one sentence you argue for the development of more clubs in Sheffield and in the next you're advocating a merger with the only club within 15 miles of the Hawks.

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