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11/05/14 - Bradford Bulls v St Helens KO 3pm

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  1. 1. Who will win?

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    • Bradford Bulls by 1 to 12 points
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    • Draw
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    • St Helens by 1 to 12 points
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http://www.bradfordbulls.co.uk/news/article/9158/bulls-to-remember

 

BRADFORD BULLS, this weekend, will be marking the 29th anniversary of a disaster which left the city, country and sporting world in a state of shock. 

The Bradford City fire occurred, Sunday May 11, 1985, precisely 29 years to the day, as we welcome St Helens to The Provident Stadium.

Club officials are inviting everyone attending the First Utility Super League clash to pay tribute to those who tragically lost their lives on that fateful afternoon.

As a club, Bradford Bulls recognises the significance of events which unfolded and, ahead of kick-off, directors, players, staff and supporters will be provided with an opportunity to pay their respects to those who passed away and their families.

Chairman Marc Green said: “The disaster which unfolded at the home of Bradford City Football Club rocked the city of Bradford and the sporting world.

“Today marks its 29th anniversary and as a club we wanted to pay tribute, in a fit and proper manner, to those who sadly lost their lives.

“We are fully aware of how much this means to the city and its people and how important the city is to sport in the region.”

Bradford's District Fire Service commander Martin Speed will be in attendance on Sunday, along with a host of colleagues from the emergency services and representatives of the Rugby Football League and Football League.

Mr Speed added: “This was a devastating fire and a tragic loss of life. This fire has stayed in the hearts and minds, not only of those in the community of Bradford but also of the firefighters who attended the scene that day.

“I have worked with firefighters who were called to this traumatic incident and who have remembered it for decades.

“The fire service is proud to be part of this commemorative event to pay tribute to the 56 souls lost that fateful day.”

Fire prevention youth trainer Ken Hunter was one of the firefighters called from Pudsey Fire Station to the incident at around 3.45pm on May 11, 1985.

He said: “One of my lasting memories was the amount of people opening up their homes to supply drinks and comfort to all comers. I remember thinking at the time, ‘why can’t we be like this all the time, just trusting and caring for each other as human beings?’

“Although that day was the worst day of my working life, and the memories are still vivid, the kindness shown on that day makes remembering easier.”

On Sunday morning, from 11.00am, Bulls directors will join members of Francis Cummins' first-teams squad in a ceremony designed to commemorate those who lose their lives during the blaze. Officials are to lay flowers, while paying their respects.

 

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We can win this if:

 

 - we can handle the Saints' trademark early blitz

- we play like we did against Warrington and concentrate on tiring their forwards over the first hour.

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I have gone for a draw, but don't really believe it . If I were a betting man I'd put my house on Saints.

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Well, there will be no element of surprise after the last two weeks, so we'll have to wait and see.

 

Just like the last two, the Saints encounter isn't a game I have down as one I'm expecting to get anything from [blessed is he who doth not expect; for he shall not be disappointed.... :tongue: ] though I'll be surprised if the Bulls don't turn up and make a game of it, which basically means the result is really up to Saints. If they turn up in the right frame of mind they'll probably win - if they don't, well,.. don't rule out the Bulls!

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Think Saints will have just about enough to win this one.

Looks like its going to be the same Saints team as last week. Its a pity young Savelio isn't going to play this week as he played for the U19's against the Bulls last night (scored a hat trick and tore the bulls forwards apart)

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A good test for the Bulls new found confidence,having taken two noticeable scalps in Catalans and Warrington,could go either way.

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Think Saints will have just about enough to win this one.

Looks like its going to be the same Saints team as last week. Its a pity young Savelio isn't going to play this week as he played for the U19's against the Bulls last night (scored a hat trick and tore the bulls forwards apart)

Yeah but we have Nathan Brown as a coach remember!  Why put a big strapping lad in the pack against a perceived 'weaker' team than, say, Leeds (when he played his debut), when you can put in smaller lads who make virtually no impact going forward at all?  Let's leave it all to Walmsley and Knock on Nelly from down under to make the yards instead, meaning our rather fine number seven has to conjure up kicking and passing tricks to buy us some land and we have two worn out props come the business end of the season.  Dipstick.  (Nathan Brown that is)

 

We should win this simply because we have better players in key positions.  Apologies if that sounds arrogant; I'm just stating things as I see them.  However, our attack against London lacked cohesion, bar the odd move, relying heavily upon moments of brilliance and foresight from Luke Walsh rather than a team effort and bar the first 20 minutes our defence went west.  So I wasn't encouraged after that supposed response to Big Mac's whipping in the matchday programme.  Coach and players - all players rather than those who routinely work hard - need to get their collective fingers out and work their butts off against Bradford.  They need to make this the match to make a statement of intent for the rest of the season since they didn't manage to do that on Thursday or else I fear we may be undone by the enthusiasm of a resurgent Bradford side.

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In the build up to the Warrington game, after beating Catalans, I said

 

The Bulls really need to back up last week's performance here. A win is pretty unlikely, but it isn't impossible. But they need to show the same determination and fight they did against Catalans here, otherwise we are back to square one.

Substitute Catalans for Wire in the above and it's about right again. Difference is now we have our tails up, people notice us, hard for lightning to strike three times in successive weeks. Also I think Saints will be far more efficient at killing the game off than Warrington and Catalans - have we started any game this year at blistering pace ourselves? All I can remember is bumbling about for 15/20 minutes and waking up after that.

After Wakey winning tonight, we effectively need a 5 game swing against them (unless our points difference takes a massive turn, or the administration hearing treats us lightly). It's a back to reality weekend. Not as close as people think - Saints by at least 20. (As always, happy to be proven wrong..!)

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Pretty much agree with that Amber, and you're spot on about our super-slow starts - we definitely can't afford that against a Saints side renowned for the exact opposite. The game could be over as a contest after 15 minutes if we don't get into gear pdq.

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Bradford should train their sights on Salford rather than Trinity. Be good to see some of the Bull army turn up again. Surely the team deserves the benefit of any doubt?

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Chev Walker and Manoukafoa are back in today which is a big plus for the Bulls, conditions might also assist and I could see it suiting the Bulls if they are patient.........big negative is the loss of Kearney as a lot will depend on 6 and 7 today.

I just hope Franny plays Gaskell at 6.

If Saints play well then they will win but I don't think it will be by too many, if the Bulls turn up and puts Saints on the back foot or Saints are not on it for 80 mins then a Bulls win would be no surprise.

A tough game to call this as the Bulls are improving and have players back which means the pack is looking very solid and a three quarter line that might be Kear, Wardle, Purtill, Henry just backs it up.

Could see either team winning this by a 6-10 pt margin............which one is the 64 million dollar question......certainly a head scratcher!!!

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Chev Walker and Manoukafoa are back in today which is a big plus for the Bulls, conditions might also assist and I could see it suiting the Bulls if they are patient.........big negative is the loss of Kearney as a lot will depend on 6 and 7 today.

I just hope Franny plays Gaskell at 6.

If Saints play well then they will win but I don't think it will be by too many, if the Bulls turn up and puts Saints on the back foot or Saints are not on it for 80 mins then a Bulls win would be no surprise.

A tough game to call this as the Bulls are improving and have players back which means the pack is looking very solid and a three quarter line that might be Kear, Wardle, Purtill, Henry just backs it up.

Could see either team winning this by a 6-10 pt margin............which one is the 64 million dollar question......certainly a head scratcher!!!

 

Not being funny, but whilst I realise Purtill is Purtell, who is Wardle ?

 

We used to have a Wardle in the juniors a few years back but he left for Hudds after his time in the Academy, and was still there last time I looked. We've not got him back, have we?

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Weather's bloody awful on the bright side of the Pennines.  If it's like this on the dark side then the match is going to be one miserable experience!

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Not being funny, but whilst I realise Purtill is Purtell, who is Wardle ?

 

We used to have a Wardle in the juniors a few years back but he left for Hudds after his time in the Academy, and was still there last time I looked. We've not got him back, have we?

Doh........Arundel..........brain not in gear!

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Something has come up so I doubt I can make it now. Probably a defeat for Bradford but as long as the effort is there that will be something.

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Saints saying that the weather in Bradford is terrible: cold, chucking it down with rain and very windy. There's also a bog in one corner of the pitch, which should be fun for the players.

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Currently 0-22 at arf tarm.

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I think we've found out which St Helens team turned up...

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Saints won 50-0. Can't ask for more than that.

 

Next weekend's clash with Warrington is nicely set up after their impressive win on Friday.

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Normal service resumed. We started kind of OK,holding up well on the line. Kind of typical then that Saints's breakthrough 2nd try was a spectacular 60meter effort. After that it became so easy for them and they never really got out of 2nd gear. We never seriously threatened the line either. Knew it would be back to reality this weekend shame it was such a poor effort. 

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Saints won 50-0. Can't ask for more than that.

 

Next weekend's clash with Warrington is nicely set up after their impressive win on Friday.

No complaints on that one.  Just so long as they keep their heads and remember that we were playing a team low on players, confidence and pretty much everything else.  I hope they have learned not to believe their own hype after their fall from grace on Good Friday!

 

Pity we have had to lose Swift and Greenwood to injury.  They are two good players.

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Luke Walsh dictated that game from start to finish, and walked off with clean knees. Our players just stood back and watched him kill us.

 

We were still playing one out rugby when we were thirty points down and never once even attempted a short kick off.

We lost by fifty points and our fullback got Man of the Match.

 

 

There's no disguising it; the Bulls performance was stone cold incompetent.

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We made Lance Hohaia look like Benji ##### Marshall.

 

No size, no threat, no idea, no chance.

 

Bradford are down.

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We made Lance Hohaia look like Benji ##### Marshall.

 

Lance Hohaia is a good player.  He's been treated badly by successive coaches without opportunity to cement a place in the team for over 2 years now.  But he has real skill and lightening pace.  If he was just allowed by Tinkerman Brown to develop his partnership with Walsh he could be a pretty nifty six.

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