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I thought that was Salford not Wigan!

 

That said I do think we need a player like him, or at least like the player he was before we moved him to the centre and then went to union. The year O'Loughlin was injured he played LF for us if I remember and played it well. As it looks like O'Loughlin's career might be sadly winding down through injury maybe he's a good fit to come back.

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It would be a nice change to see a top class player come into the club instead of leaving.

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Don't care either way, really.

He ditched his club and his code, so why should he waltz back ahead of a true leaguie?

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Good luck to him, it just proves that playing for England is the only pull Union has, once that doesn't happen there is not much worth staying for.

I really do think Burgess will be back in RL within 12 months.

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Don't care either way, really.

He ditched his club and his code, so why should he waltz back ahead of a true leaguie?

FFS! What year is it again?

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Good luck to him, it just proves that playing for England is the only pull Union has, once that doesn't happen there is not much worth staying for.

I really do think Burgess will be back in RL within 12 months.

 

Very interesting comment Mark and I think Joel being back in the game will have a massive impact on Sam Tomkins too. Absolutely agree with you about Sam Burgess, saw his Mum interviewed at half-time at the Bunnies game and she said she responded to the news by saying 'what are you doing? You're breaking my heart'. Also said she would be staying in Australia with the rest of the boys. The pull to go back will be massive if things don't go right in the first few months. I noticed he has only signed a two and a half year contract in union too.

 

In Joel's case. He is a top athlete and I don't buy this criticism of his abilities he got when he left. He would be pushing for a back-row spot in the England side within the first season of his return.

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FFS! What year is it again?

Each to their own.

I don't know what you do, but what effect would it have on your motivation if you had chosen to ignore the advances of a predatory direct rival, a colleague had moved to them for more money, and then was welcomed back with open arms?

And would that make you less or more inclined to accept an offer, the next time the phone went.

FFS is that clear enough?

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Wigan may still hold his registration so that could help them in negotiations.

Any rival club for Joel's signature would then have to pay a transfer fee as well as match Wigan's salary offer.

Would be good to get him back in the game and even better if it were at Wigan!

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He's in his mid-20s and was out of contract when he left so any attempt by Wigan to cash in would be futile.

It's a moot point anyway as I'm fairly certain he'll be heading back to Wigan anyway.

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He's in his mid-20s and was out of contract when he left so any attempt by Wigan to cash in would be futile.

It's a moot point anyway as I'm fairly certain he'll be heading back to Wigan anyway.

He was out of contract when he left? I thought Wigan got a transfer fee then used that to uplift Sam's contract.

 

Would like to see him back, but as a 2nd row not a centre, though think it would be a couple of seasons before he was near international class - there's a fair few ahead of him

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He was out of contract when he left? I thought Wigan got a transfer fee then used that to uplift Sam's contract.

 

Would like to see him back, but as a 2nd row not a centre, though think it would be a couple of seasons before he was near international class - there's a fair few ahead of him

You are correct you wont get a transfer fee for an OC player

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Wouldn't rush to have him back. The fact he played Union is irrelevant. He is it's hard to explain not big enough for the forwards or agile enough for the backs. He's a slightly above SL player that's all he is. He's like a slightly better version than Ian Thornley. I think a lot of Joel Tomkins hype came from his try at Wembley and the fact his brother is the best British SL player we have produced this century.

I'd have him back obviously, but a huge bid not a chance. If we want a huge bid can we try get back Sam Burgess, Chris Ashton or Bryan Habana on the wing maybe. A huge bid for Joel? Not worth it.

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Wouldn't rush to have him back. The fact he played Union is irrelevant. He is it's hard to explain not big enough for the forwards or agile enough for the backs. He's a slightly above SL player that's all he is. He's like a slightly better version than Ian Thornley. I think a lot of Joel Tomkins hype came from his try at Wembley and the fact his brother is the best British SL player we have produced this century.

I'd have him back obviously, but a huge bid not a chance. If we want a huge bid can we try get back Sam Burgess, Chris Ashton or Bryan Habana on the wing maybe. A huge bid for Joel? Not worth it.

Chris Ashton please no

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Wouldn't rush to have him back. The fact he played Union is irrelevant. He is it's hard to explain not big enough for the forwards or agile enough for the backs. He's a slightly above SL player that's all he is. He's like a slightly better version than Ian Thornley. I think a lot of Joel Tomkins hype came from his try at Wembley and the fact his brother is the best British SL player we have produced this century.

I'd have him back obviously, but a huge bid not a chance. If we want a huge bid can we try get back Sam Burgess, Chris Ashton or Bryan Habana on the wing maybe. A huge bid for Joel? Not worth it.

Jesus, how old must Habana get before he stops being seen as the solution to... anything?

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Wouldn't rush to have him back. The fact he played Union is irrelevant. He is it's hard to explain not big enough for the forwards or agile enough for the backs. He's a slightly above SL player that's all he is. He's like a slightly better version than Ian Thornley. I think a lot of Joel Tomkins hype came from his try at Wembley and the fact his brother is the best British SL player we have produced this century.

I'd have him back obviously, but a huge bid not a chance. If we want a huge bid can we try get back Sam Burgess, Chris Ashton or Bryan Habana on the wing maybe. A huge bid for Joel? Not worth it.

Chris Ashton? I do hope that was a joke, because he is a joke of a player, yet the ignorant kick and clap press seem to think he's a star lol.

 

I'd be happy to see Joel Tomkins come back, he'd be a solid Super League player, unless he's lost some of his skills in union but i certainly wouldn't be making a big play for him. I'd rather see Eastmond back because he could've been a star

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Jesus talk about missing the main point of a post and commenting on the little details. Signing a Chris Ashton or Bryan Habana would make national newspaper coverage. Signing Joel Tomkins won't. That would be probably the main benefit of signing a player like that.

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I'd rather eat my mother in laws toe nails than pay money to see Ashton. He's an average union player and no where near the quality of our current wingers.

If I placed a coffin on the right edge of cougar park it would bring down more players than Ashton's tackle success in a season.

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I wouldn't say he's been badly missed by SL or England, if he wants to come back then he should have to earn a place in the national team, rather than just going in straight away. The game's moved on without him and there are some decent prospects challenging for a backrow spot. I'd hate to hear the media obsession over him like he was a superstar, if he did come back. I'd rather someone made a big play for Eastmond than pay big bucks for Joel Tomkins. 

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I wouldn't say he's been badly missed by SL or England, if he wants to come back then he should have to earn a place in the national team, rather than just going in straight away. The game's moved on without him and there are some decent prospects challenging for a backrow spot. I'd hate to hear the media obsession over him like he was a superstar, if he did come back. I'd rather someone made a big play for Eastmond than pay big bucks for Joel Tomkins. 

I don't think Tomkins would be anywhere near an England team if he came back, he wasn't in it before so i don't suddenly see why he would after a couple of years blunting his skills in another code

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I don't think Tomkins would be anywhere near an England team if he came back, he wasn't in it before

err...a length of the field interception in his last season in the exiles game suggests otherwise.

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Didn't be score the winning try for England against the a Exiles - though we might have lost?

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Some people are kidding themselves. Within a season Joel Tomkins would be knocking on the door for international selection.

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Some people are kidding themselves. Within a season Joel Tomkins would be knocking on the door for international selection.

Quite right, they can't accept the fact that these players have a short playing career and that any attempt to improve their financial earnings be it in union or the NRL(maybe not to the extent of Union) is scorned upon. If somebody offered me more money to change jobs I'd snap their hands off and so would the majority of people slagging off Tomkins switching to Union would, why should it be any different for professional rugby league players?

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Don't care either way, really.

He ditched his club and his code, so why should he waltz back ahead of a true leaguie?

 

So we battled with union for a hundred years for what?

 

Billy Boston wasn't a true leaguie, should he have not been allowed to play for Wigan because some kid from St.Pats wanted a game.

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