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This Weekends Results 17th/18th May

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At least 8 teams playing in the East this week.  A 25% increase in games, teams and playing numbers from last week.

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2 London games 24 - 0

* Staines cried off against London Skolars A

* Newham cried off against St Albans

On the plus side one PP game is being played today

* Elmbridge v Beckenham in London Div 1

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Kings Lynn vs St Ives today at North Wootton; always a tasty affair... Sadly not playing having knackered by hamstring playing T20 cricket midweek... Getting old! Good luck to the rest of the teams in the East Division; it's going to be a warm one...

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London Entry League sees Hammersmith back in action and Esher's first game for the year.

2 positives.

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They really should have made Staines play division 1 rather than fast tracking them

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2 London games 24 - 0

* Staines cried off against London Skolars A

* Newham cried off against St Albans

 

 

 

They really should have made Staines play division 1 rather than fast tracking them

 

For the first time in the few years that I have been following amateur, sorry, open, rugby league in the south east I think the London league seems to be in a bit of a state at the minute, and not sure what can be done about it. The problem I think is that the standard of rugby seems to be very good for five of the six teams in this league, but is a very big step up for new teams.  Take the six teams in the London Prem, they have a ten game season plus a few cup games.  In this league you have Staines at one end  who 'stepped up' and have only played one game out of their first three, and in the same league you have Skolars 'A'  who last week when I watched them had at least six first team Skolars players in their 'A' team.  At one end you have a team with semi pro players in, playing in the same league as a team that seems unable to fulfil its fixtures. 

 

I know its stating the bleeding obvious, that more even, stable teams playing a longer seasons would seem to be the answer, but how that can be achieved, I do not know.  Any suggestions?

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Skolars A should be in The Southern Conference really.

 

As for the rest, it is really a problem of critical mass - there aren't enough numbers to generate enough teams to give enough competitive divisions. There's a similar situation in the Midlands but we are just about hanging on.

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Oxford Cavaliers 40 Bristol Sonics 18

 

Gloucester 70 Bristol Sonics A 50

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Did no one tackle in the Gloucester game. Taking into account a few penalties and knock on's there can't have been that many full sets of 6

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London Cup

West Warriors 44 - 22 eastern Rhinos

SW London Chargers 40 - 26 Hemel A

Postponed London Div 1 game

Beckenham 34 - 16 Elmbridge

London Entry League

SW London Chargers 8 - 16 Hammersmith

SW London Chargers 16 - 4 Esher

Esher 0 - 24 Hammersmith

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South East Cup

Weald 50 - 38 Guildford

Medway 50 - 4 Portsmouth

East Premier

North Herts 24 - 22 Bedford

Milton Keynes 54 - 16 Southend

East Entry League

North Herts A 44 - 28 Bedford B

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Skolars A should be in The Southern Conference really.

As for the rest, it is really a problem of critical mass - there aren't enough numbers to generate enough teams to give enough competitive divisions. There's a similar situation in the Midlands but we are just about hanging on.

I'm guessing with Skolars A & Hemel A it is the travel that detracts from Confrence League South (and playing on Sundays) they get a pretty good opposition in London Premier - it's just that step from 5 to 8 teams that has always been tough!!

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London Cup

West Warriors 44 - 22 Eastern Rhinos

 

Wow, what a result.  Aren't West Warriors in the Entry League.  Can't find any website for them, anyone know anything about them?

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East Premier

North Herts 24 - 22 Bedford

Milton Keynes 54 - 16 Southend

Missed the most important game from that list... ;) Close game but sadly St Ives sneaked it in the end...

Kings Lynn 40 - 46 St Ives

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Wow, what a result. Aren't West Warriors in the Entry League. Can't find any website for them, anyone know anything about them?

They will hate me saying this but they are the kiwi equivalent of Hammersmith and weirdly play out of Hammersmiths old ground.

They will go through the leagues quickly - but rules state all teams must start in Entry League I believe. Can see them in London Prem next year (hopefully with the reformed Hammersmith).

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South West Men's League.

Plymouth Titans 48-24 Devon Sharks

North Devon Raiders 18-30 Exeter Centurions

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Staines & Newham say they are good for next week and it was just a blip.

We will wait and See

 

I've heard a number of conspiracy theories as to why Staines landed up in the Premier this year.  However, I said to the RFL that a team that bailed on the Entry League playoffs didn't deserve a crack at the Premier, no matter how well they did in the cup.

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I've heard a number of conspiracy theories as to why Staines landed up in the Premier this year. However, I said to the RFL that a team that bailed on the Entry League playoffs didn't deserve a crack at the Premier, no matter how well they did in the cup.

If be interested to hear these conspiracy theories?

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Skolars A should be in The Southern Conference really.

As for the rest, it is really a problem of critical mass - there aren't enough numbers to generate enough teams to give enough competitive divisions. There's a similar situation in the Midlands but we are just about hanging on.

An expanded NCL South with a regionalised draw would appear to be the obvious solution here.

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An expanded NCL South with a regionalised draw would appear to be the obvious solution here.

If enough clubs were up for that you could use the old NL3 format where you play the teams in your region twice and out of your region once. I think it's most likely they'll build up London Premier to sit parallel to CLS though. You'd see more of the likes of Medway and perhaps Southampton and North Hertfordshire rather than Staines in such a league though.

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If be interested to hear these conspiracy theories?

 

Nothing too nefarious.  It seems some clubs have a bit more political pull than others, Staines being one of those clubs.

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Sorry, other things that I wanted to chime in on.

 

If enough clubs were up for that you could use the old NL3 format where you play the teams in your region twice and out of your region once. I think it's most likely they'll build up London Premier to sit parallel to CLS though. You'd see more of the likes of Medway and perhaps Southampton and North Hertfordshire rather than Staines in such a league though.

 

London, South East and East have the same competitions manager and he has shown the clubs (that turned up) a plan for leagues with a smaller geographic footprint.  However, it needs clubs to evolve from juniors or to spring up out of thin air.  The idea situation is for five leagues to replace the current three.   East Region to split in two (East Anglia and South Midlands) with a shared Entry setup, South East to split into two (Hampshire/Berkshire and Kent/Surrey/Sussex) with a shared Entry setup and have a separate London league its own Entry league.  A suggestion was put forward that there should be a London, South and East superleague that sits between this setup and Conference League South.

 

They will hate me saying this but they are the kiwi equivalent of Hammersmith and weirdly play out of Hammersmiths old ground.

They will go through the leagues quickly - but rules state all teams must start in Entry League I believe. Can see them in London Prem next year (hopefully with the reformed Hammersmith).

 

I met the guys from Wests and it started from the tag rugby ranks but I think that once they decided a direction and hooked up with London New Zealand, it took a different direction.  Nice bunch of guys however, which I'm not sure you could always say about Hills Hoists.

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