Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

colinb

Ben Blackmore

69 posts in this topic

Have heard tonight of further depressing news regarding Griffin hope there is no truth in it i cannot imagine how bad our threequarters will be if true.

You tease.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Well for starters the cap is currently £300k, and im almost certain not many of the Featherstone squad of 50 or so are on match terms, so they must be paying over the cap even if they only earn basic guaranteed money, and some of the big names there wont be playing for peanuts.

If they are not then they must have a very crafty accountant.

Fevs cap isnt 300k - its 400k as we were able to prove to the RFL we were able to generate over £1 million turnover

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Fevs cap isnt 300k - its 400k as we were able to prove to the RFL we were able to generate over £1 million turnover

Yeah, 'generate' over a £1 million turnover thanks to a 'donation' of around £1 million from your benefactor.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Yeah, 'generate' over a £1 million turnover thanks to a 'donation' of around £1 million from your benefactor.

I would have thought donations were exempt from turnover too, as businesses cant rely on them as regular income.

There is going to be one hell of a mess to clean up in Featherstone when this all goes belly up.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Have heard tonight of further depressing news regarding Griffin hope there is no truth in it i cannot imagine how bad our threequarters will be if true.

 

Believe its Salfords Darrel Griffin theyve signed.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Don't let's forget Ayden Faal is available for selection for the Keighley game.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Don't let's forget Ayden Faal is available for selection for the Keighley game.

Wow - The saviour cometh!

In all seriousness, didnt rate him at all last season if im honest, so hope he's improved his game during his time off.

Its another bit of paper over our three quarter cracks if Griffin follows Blackmore out of the door i suppose.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

The elephant in the room is crowds of 600

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Come on KN, please tell us what is actually happening, we've just got back into the game over the last 3 games. 2 usual close shaves against top teams and a good win, yet we're still hearing rumours and second hand information. Just what is the current situation with regard to our DR farce and in and out loans.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Re Faal - that was from the horses mouth.

 

Don't know why people are getting all het up re the DR system.  At the beginning of the season JK said he would be using the players who were signed for Batley and WHEN NECESSARY would bring in a DR from Huddersfield.  Obviously the squad was depleted immediately by the bans for JC and Faal, but that was overcome by bringing in Blackmore as a replacement for JC. Initially others were tried in the centre and then Griffin became available on, I understand, him refusing to sign to Batley fully but happy to play on a week by week basis thus putting himself in the shop window. The rumours indicate that he may have been successful in this otherwise, presumably, he will remain at Batley till the end of the season.  Alex Brown has also been brought in to cover the absence of JC from the squad and now, due to Blackmore being told by Giants he will not be offered a contract for next season and being offered a VERY GOOD deal by Fev, makes up the two wingers in the squad.

 

JK must have felt that Brannan wasn't performing up to the required standard, possibly due to fitness which in turn maybe because of lack of playing time, so has loaned him to York to get matchtime at the same time bringing in Keegan to cover with Fev's permission.  If another team offer Fev a bigger deal to take Keegan what should Batley do?  Get involved in an auction which would end up giving Fev even more money to buy more players?  And if they got into an auction, who do people think would end up with the prize?  As mentioned above - gates of 600 make life very difficult.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Come on KN, please tell us what is actually happening, we've just got back into the game over the last 3 games. 2 usual close shaves against top teams and a good win, yet we're still hearing rumours and second hand information. Just what is the current situation with regard to our DR farce and in and out loans.

Why does one think the Chairman of any business is obliged to make public statements regarding any decision taken in the running of same. The Chairman is a title and the business is run by the ceo so if you are genuinely interested in how the club is run ask Iro and for ins and outs ask John. This morning a simple telephone call suggested Faal is back in training and doing very well. Hurst has signed for Halifax despite Dewsbury wishing to sign him, Griffin is training with Salford and will be gone if they sign him.

I personally think the club have not been treated nicely by the Giants but there are other clubs available for dual reg including Catalan Dragons. The real evil in all this are agents and part time players who have no loyalty whatsoever, After agents fees the players are only slightly better off and loose the adulation given to Lythes Scotty and many others. So give Iro a ring or speak to him or the players involved at the game Sunday.

Kev usually Speaks at the shareholders meeting so you could ask him then. Fred  also  spends many hours at the club do pm him

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

 

I would have thought donations were exempt from turnover too, as businesses cant rely on them as regular income.

There is going to be one hell of a mess to clean up in Featherstone when this all goes belly up.

 

your wasted on the terraces BTJ you really are....you should be heading up the new RFL department of investigation - the 'IFRSCB' (Investigate Featherstone Rovers salary cap breach), considering you know so much about all the players contracts, payments and rumours.

You could go undercover as an office cleaner at PO Road and have a rustle through the filing cabinets and report your findings back to blake solly & co.

ps; we have a £400k salary cap due to turnover - I thought someone with your knowledge would have known that and we dont quite have 50 players (yet) old cocka lol

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I was feeling optimistic and was looking forward to Sundays game after an excellent performance against Featherstone. I'll learn my lesson one day!!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

  

your wasted on the terraces BTJ you really are....you should be heading up the new RFL department of investigation - the 'IFRSCB' (Investigate Featherstone Rovers salary cap breach), considering you know so much about all the players contracts, payments and rumours.

You could go undercover as an office cleaner at PO Road and have a rustle through the filing cabinets and report your findings back to blake solly & co.

ps; we have a £400k salary cap due to turnover - I thought someone with your knowledge would have known that and we dont quite have 50 players (yet) old cocka lol

I know one Featherstone player who is on a guaranteed £20k and hes hardly got in the team.

So if an average player earns that, then a squad of 20 would take you up to £400k.

Im sure the Crookes's, Kain's, Ellis's & Sharps of this world will command more than that, so im left gobsmacked you are in any way under that cap, and you are still signing players!

You must have a great accountant with a huge supply of brown envelopes at PO Road.

Ill save my 'i told you so's' up and let you have them all when the bubble bursts 'old cocka'.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Regarding salary cap at fev because we had a turnover of£1.5 million for past two years a month into this new season the RFL increased our cap to 400 k

If as you say the cap is £400,000 then that divided by 41 comes to less than 10,000 per player that is not taking into account the coaches . I may be wrong but i would imagine some of the stars at Fev are on more than that as i have said clubs need to be checked to make sure we have a fair competition

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Re Faal - that was from the horses mouth.

 

Don't know why people are getting all het up re the DR system.  At the beginning of the season JK said he would be using the players who were signed for Batley and WHEN NECESSARY would bring in a DR from Huddersfield.  Obviously the squad was depleted immediately by the bans for JC and Faal, but that was overcome by bringing in Blackmore as a replacement for JC. Initially others were tried in the centre and then Griffin became available on, I understand, him refusing to sign to Batley fully but happy to play on a week by week basis thus putting himself in the shop window. The rumours indicate that he may have been successful in this otherwise, presumably, he will remain at Batley till the end of the season.  Alex Brown has also been brought in to cover the absence of JC from the squad and now, due to Blackmore being told by Giants he will not be offered a contract for next season and being offered a VERY GOOD deal by Fev, makes up the two wingers in the squad.

 

JK must have felt that Brannan wasn't performing up to the required standard, possibly due to fitness which in turn maybe because of lack of playing time, so has loaned him to York to get matchtime at the same time bringing in Keegan to cover with Fev's permission.  If another team offer Fev a bigger deal to take Keegan what should Batley do?  Get involved in an auction which would end up giving Fev even more money to buy more players?  And if they got into an auction, who do people think would end up with the prize?  As mentioned above - gates of 600 make life very difficult.

You must be one of the few people Fredm who likes the madness that is DR . It has made our competition a complete mess with players here there and everywhere. As for Keegan i hear Halifax have taken him. We Take players on DR and loan and when they play well other teams then step in and take them .So if rumours are correct 3 players who would have been in our starting line up have gone elsewhere. Lets get back to the days when players played for the club they signed on for and we are not begging and borrowing to raise a team. As i said many times DR a crock of IMO.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I have never said I like DR, what I am saying is that people are putting our troubles/league position (lower than they want) down to DR, when I do not believe that this is solely the case. With the exception of Blackmore, who may not have played a game if JC had not been suspended, I make the following as having appeared as DR:

Leigh - Connor and Mason

Doncaster - Johnson and Aspinall

North Wales - Mason

Keighley - Fairbank

Fev - Mullaly

So that makes a total of 7 appearances. How this can be made into the cause of our problems I have to say I cannot fathom.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I have never said I like DR, what I am saying is that people are putting our troubles/league position (lower than they want) down to DR, when I do not believe that this is solely the case. With the exception of Blackmore, who may not have played a game if JC had not been suspended, I make the following as having appeared as DR:

Leigh - Connor and Mason

Doncaster - Johnson and Aspinall

North Wales - Mason

Keighley - Fairbank

Fev - Mullaly

So that makes a total of 7 appearances. How this can be made into the cause of our problems I have to say I cannot fathom.

No one has said it is the fault of DR becouse we are struggling what i and other supporters have said is is not doing the credibility of the championship any good. We are struggling becouse of some bad descitions with the make up of our squad. The highlight being the Faal and JC inclusion in the playing squad when it was clear a suspension was in the offing. We included 6 Hudds. players and most of those have been loaned to other clubs. As a result our backline options were wafer thin before a ball was kicked Black being out compounded this and we have struggled to score points. But back to the point Fredm DR in my opinion is not good for the championship it never will be and it was introduced to help super league clubs. . I dont understand you Fred when u bracket supporters as "what they want" surely it should be what the club wants as relegation in this very important season will be dire for our club  Batley RLFC.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

This week we have a vital game against Rochdale. Alex Brown & Keegan Hirst who were not able to play last week are available this week along with those players who played last week. Obviously we are disappointed to lose Ben Blackmore but it is not appropriate for us to comment on DR system now and I will not.As far as any player movement is concerned I am aware of some rumours about players moving in and out of the Club but at the moment there is nothing to announce as talks are ongoing to bring in players but nothing is resolved.We are doing our utmost to ensure we continue to improve on the field.People everywhere are panicking which makes negotiating difficult but we will keep a level head as we have done in the best interests of our Club. Not announcing then cos nothing to announce whether some people like it or not.When there is something to say will do so. There may be developments next week and we are hoping it is good news but for now it is Rochdale.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I know one Featherstone player who is on a guaranteed £20k and hes hardly got in the team.

So if an average player earns that, then a squad of 20 would take you up to £400k.

Im sure the Crookes's, Kain's, Ellis's & Sharps of this world will command more than that, so im left gobsmacked you are in any way under that cap, and you are still signing players!

You must have a great accountant with a huge supply of brown envelopes at PO Road.

Ill save my 'i told you so's' up and let you have them all when the bubble bursts 'old cocka'.

Becareful what you wish for..because without Fev to bolster championship attendances up the division would look very bleak indeed; That's not arrogance its a fact;

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    No registered users viewing this page.



League Express - Mon 10th April 2017

Rugby League World - April 2017