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Last week Callum and forber play half back we score 30 points, this week Lupton goes there with forber and we score 10. Coincidence I think not. Put Lupton on the bench to spell Matty, as he just dosent have the legs for half back anymore.

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I must be reliving the same Sunday over and over again . Spooky

Groundhog Day every Sunday

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Defence was good today, a mistake before half time led to a try, Carter Stack and Matty when on field were all great today

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nothing like talking s***e is there. Who cares what would happen under the old rules, we don't play under them anymore. Haven will go pop again in the very near future so you can crawl back under your stone for another couple of years.

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Came out from under my stone in 1952 so I don't I can wait for 64 years to get back under.

Bonus point a piece so no change as far as I can see it./quote]

Just imagine if you used all those years to learn how to read and use a computer........

I didn't think there was anyone thicker than the sirkett-tard, it appears i was wrong.

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Come on we can stay up. Mr haven4ever is rejoicing in the fact we are talking of life in C1 already. We can compete with the fevs and leigh and get something off them where haven cant so its time to get points off the lesser sides in this league from now on.

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I wish we had Jessie Joe and Seymour . They've got people on both ends of that try creation and try scoring axis , and it makes a hell of a difference . They get them winnable games nailed down , and give you fuller value in points for any foothold your pack gets . Our pack has punched above what many of us thought , but to often we've been lacking the smarts and speed to register much off the back of them . So everything's a struggle . But to late now , so it's DR ( finally , please in full swing ! ) and getting the max out of what we have in the crucial games to come . Maintaining the level of this last month must give us a good shot in the friendlier games . It's a worry though that to often we've played to the level of our opposition . We can't do that after Fev . Keep up the standard and after what you've played in the last month you should have no fears. Easier games bring greater pressures though . We' haven't handled the games we were expected to win ... How we handle the next group of more favourable matches will decide our fate . We can afford no more hard luck stories .

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Wonky is right, we should and no doubt are proud of our lads , this morning with the 15 fit a bonus point was the reality we could hope for. But bring on fev and 3 points pleeeeesa !

I absolutely agree that what we have playing for our club deserves all our loyalty and i would be the first if anybody said anything different,we have a bare 15 or so players banging their hearts and heads out for us fans trying to win the game,we are having to resort to having players play out of there normal positions and jarrad(stack) is playing out of his skin in the centre spot,i know he played for the aussie school boys has a winger but what he is doing for our club makes me proud to know him and that go's for the rest of them.Phil veivers has got the team playing rugby,good rugby but,we need a couple of players and has we all know what positions i am talking about,now,if by the grace of big waney we get the players we are shouting for then i can see workington town not getting beat again this season.I know that is an exagerated statement,but i really believe it could come to fruition if we by chance get a couple of props,a halfback,and a strike centre and may be just may be dom manfredi on the wing.

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I absolutely agree that what we have playing for our club deserves all our loyalty and i would be the first if anybody said anything different,we have a bare 15 or so players banging their hearts and heads out for us fans trying to win the game,we are having to resort to having players play out of there normal positions and jarrad(stack) is playing out of his skin in the centre spot,i know he played for the aussie school boys has a winger but what he is doing for our club makes me proud to know him and that go's for the rest of them.Phil veivers has got the team playing rugby,good rugby but,we need a couple of players and has we all know what positions i am talking about,now,if by the grace of big waney we get the players we are shouting for then i can see workington town not getting beat again this season.I know that is an exagerated statement,but i really believe it could come to fruition if we by chance get a couple of props,a halfback,and a strike centre and may be just may be dom manfredi on the wing.

It all sounds good in writing but it'll never happen. I just don't think we will get the players, we've been banging on about it all year and it hasn't happened so why now and why when it could all be to late to save us?

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Five points now off 9th - and the teams above us are good teams who are going to pick up a few wins . I think the most likely scenario is we'll win a few games that we should , but it won't be enough and we'll fall short. Then we'll look back at all the points we handed out - especially to the ones who survived right above us

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What happens to us around half time, we always concede either side of it.

 

I think you can put yesterday down to having one forward on the bench we must have rested big Kris and played all our other forwards for the full 80 more or less so inevitably they have ground us down with a big fresh set of forwards

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But they're mostly from individual errors or lapses, like spilt kicks ,as PV has mentioned . And they kick you in the guts . He again talked about silliness , being smarter , half backs taking control, nearly moments , throwing away possession , and repeating things week after week . Put big emphasis on the half time try . All the stuff he says is great , but I often wonder if he's striving for things this set of players just can't deliver over a full 80 minutes . He says the same things but we do the same things .

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Just looking at the remaining fixtures of all the teams from 7th down in the table I believe all is not lost IF we get that little bit of help from Wigan that we have been lacking.    Some of the teams around us have still some very hard away matches to play whilst our hardest is at Leigh and it's our last away match when we will probably know our fate.

 

Keighley have to go to Sheffield, Halifax, Leigh, Swinton, Barrow and Dewsbury.    Batley have to go to Town, Fev, Sheffield, Haven and Doncaster.

Crusaders are away to Batley, Fev, Sheffield, Rochdale, Keighley and Barrow,     Swinton have Barrow, Dewsbury, Doncaster, Sheffield and Batley.

Haven have Doncaster, Barrow, Halifax, Town, Sheffield, and Swinton.    Town have Swinton, Keighley, Crusaders, Doncaster and Leigh.

 

No easy games for any away from home but some just a little bit easier than others.    We need that fresh blood in the squad whether it comes from Wigan or from loans as it says in todays League Weekly, but one way or the other it has to happen now.

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Yep . Just looking in the RLE our bench was Lucock , Duerden , la'al Callum and Rooney who wasn't fully fit.

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We need numbers fast, barrow brought Big Ben Davies in, he could have done us a job

He was woeful for us last year. Wed be better off with a rookie Wigan prop on the bench than a hooker a half back and two players who's best position is debatable

What about Tom Walker on loan from Warrington bod?

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Seen tom up at salterbeck v Clifton game some size that lad would do a job easy

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I'm still waiting for this unattached player who's coming in two or three weeks ... That was , er , two or three weeks ago . It's just beyond a joke now . We've gone from a thousand names being thrown around to total silence . At the most vital time . Every article about teams talks about signings and scouting about , but never us that I see . Other sides have managed to strengthen . What happened on the French thing ?We constantly have the phone to the ear we hear -maybe nows the time to plug it in .Anyone out there... Help !!!

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In the League Weekly PV is quoted as saying he wants a second row and a winger and one other on loan deals.    Every week other clubs are shown as signing player after player and either we don't have the contacts or we haven't approached any.    

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I'd have thought we had second row covered better than most teams ? Pacy backs and a creative influence would be top of my list . Hopefully some front row beef comes , as long promised , from Wigan . Bit of quality in key spots would make a hell of a difference to us , with the effort we put in .

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I'd have thought we had second row covered better than most teams ? Pacy backs and a creative influence would be top of my list . Hopefully some front row beef comes , as long promised , from Wigan . Bit of quality in key spots would make a hell of a difference to us , with the effort we put in .

I think stack in his games at centre played very well, and if we could get someone to replace him in the second row id have him in the centres

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It's all opinions Scott , and they all count , but I disagree . To me he's an out and out strong , ball carrying second row . He's filling at centre due to necessity . His strength is his running game out wide , hitting the line . Centre is a specialist position , that needs a bit more subtlety and good passing and link with the winger . To me Jarrad isn't always using options around him . That's no criticism , he bends the line . Playing Stack and Phillips had positives , but it put all our eggs on one flank .Gelling was an ideal example of a centre with all the tools . Joy to watch him play . But that's PV ' s job , to maximise what he has . Either way we're stretching our best players to fill our holes , and they're feeling the strain . Guys like stack , Matty and Brett are Trojans and need some strain taking off them sharpish . They can't plug all the gaps .

Bit of extra quality in key spots to sharpen us can help close those small margins . Hopefully they finally arrive for the big push !

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I don,t think there is a cat in hells chance of MR WANE letting us have them, but in my opinion we badly need 2 props, and a stand off,that would make the 5, with Tierney and Murphy also give shacks a spell ,the lad is knocking imself to bits at prop?

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I don,t think there is a cat in hells chance of MR WANE letting us have them, but in my opinion we badly need 2 props, and a stand off,that would make the 5, with Tierney and Murphy also give shacks a spell ,the lad is knocking imself to bits at prop?

 

That's the problem abu, Shacks and one or two others will be burned out in the not too distant future unless we look after them with some additions to the squad.   These lads are knocking their pans in every week.

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Dead right . If you look at it really , we had one natural prop in our matchday 17 . Abu is right , this league is brutal. God knows who rotated at prop on Sunday . Poor old Rooney again ? Props , a half and two backs is something we dream about getting off messers Wane and Radkinski . Unfortunately we've been collateral damage of their injury strife , and their natural caution in risking any more .

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It's all opinions Scott , and they all count , but I disagree . To me he's an out and out strong , ball carrying second row . He's filling at centre due to necessity . His strength is his running game out wide , hitting the line . Centre is a specialist position , that needs a bit more subtlety and good passing and link with the winger . To me Jarrad isn't always using options around him . That's no criticism , he bends the line . Playing Stack and Phillips had positives , but it put all our eggs on one flank .Gelling was an ideal example of a centre with all the tools . Joy to watch him play . But that's PV ' s job , to maximise what he has . Either way we're stretching our best players to fill our holes , and they're feeling the strain . Guys like stack , Matty and Brett are Trojans and need some strain taking off them sharpish . They can't plug all the gaps .

Bit of extra quality in key spots to sharpen us can help close those small margins . Hopefully they finally arrive for the big push !

I'm with Scott on this one David, I'm liking jarred at centre. He has every attribute to be very good in the centres, pace, power, defence,good hands, good awareness of what's around him and can take a high ball better than anyone.

To be fair I think he could give a decent account of himself virtually anywhere on the pitch so If PV thinks he will get the best out of him at centre I'm all for it.

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